6688 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'm surprised nobody caught this one! http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/coupler/0208/roc...es%20shape.html From the Feb. 2008 online version of the TTC Coupler newsletter. The picture is only the engineering mock-up. But so far, looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
* Mr. Black * Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/coupler/0208/feb_cover.html Front looks great too!! but i wonder what the "turn signals" are for?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenerlrt Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/coupler/0208/feb_cover.htmlFront looks great too!! but i wonder what the "turn signals" are for?? LOL. They're there because they look cool . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York Transit Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 The interior walls are creme instead of grey (more like the H6s). Thank god! I hate how depressing the grey T1 interior is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt+viva=1system Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i wonder how long those red plastic on the bars will last before they will need replacements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 VERY glad to see that they put in transverse seating instead of the planned side-only seating. One thing I'm also surprised about is that the seats are open underneath... I heard they were boxing that area in because of security concerns about leaving a bomb in a bag underneath a seat. I thought that had been a done deal that that was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt+viva=1system Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 are these seats going to be like the Orion VII NG seats? with the padding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i wonder how long those red plastic on the bars will last before they will need replacements It's a coating on the metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Engineer Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I like the way its shaping up with the new front and new style poles inside. One thing I cant stand is that fact that they will more resemble NYC subway cars rather than TTC cars from the side. I dont like how it will be door-window-door, istead of door-window-window-door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Maybe they finally realized that terrorists won't be deterred by the seating arrangement. And who said the terrorists wouldn't bomb older cars. Now if only they'll put a window behind the cab so we could still have a sort-of railfan seat. I mean, they used the excuse of suicide jumpers trumatizing passengers, but that can't be too common. VERY glad to see that they put in transverse seating instead of the planned side-only seating.One thing I'm also surprised about is that the seats are open underneath... I heard they were boxing that area in because of security concerns about leaving a bomb in a bag underneath a seat. I thought that had been a done deal that that was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ber Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 wow, tip in windows as well... some open air train rides... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 wow, tip in windows as well...some open air train rides... And smell the sewers too! Imagine how people complained the a/c is too cold, so they open the window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 wow, tip in windows as well...some open air train rides... The Hong Kong trains have those type of windows but a normal passenger cannot open the windows. Most likely, the TR windows will not be openable to regular passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 VERY glad to see that they put in transverse seating instead of the planned side-only seating.One thing I'm also surprised about is that the seats are open underneath... I heard they were boxing that area in because of security concerns about leaving a bomb in a bag underneath a seat. I thought that had been a done deal that that was happening. Bomb under the seat, bomb on the seat... in the end it isn't going to matter. Just because there's no space under the seat, doesn't mean that that will stop someone from bombing a train. Just like telling people they can't take photos of transit for security reasons would actually prevent a terrorist attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. DeLarge Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 wow, tip in windows as well...some open air train rides... Keep in mind that this is a mock-up and some features may or may not appear on the production models. BBD probably still has a ways to go in finalizing the design and minor details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38 Highland Creek Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Maybe they finally realized that terrorists won't be deterred by the seating arrangement. :angry: And who said the terrorists wouldn't bomb older cars.Now if only they'll put a window behind the cab so we could still have a sort-of railfan seat. I mean, they used the excuse of suicide jumpers trumatizing passengers, but that can't be too common. Exactly! I'd rather see the front view (back if on the tail car) of the subway signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion9131 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Bomb under the seat, bomb on the seat... in the end it isn't going to matter.Just because there's no space under the seat, doesn't mean that that will stop someone from bombing a train. Just like telling people they can't take photos of transit for security reasons would actually prevent a terrorist attack. I am still irked by the decision to remove the trash bins from the subway platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj.surf.lfs Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Since I live in Thunder Bay, I might be able to e-mail to Bombardier and ask them for a tour. It's a 10 minute bike ride from where I live. (I hope they have an Open House again these year :angry:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT_BMT_IND Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Hopefully we will see a mockup at the 2008 Exhibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pccstreetcar4549 Posted March 29, 2008 Report Share Posted March 29, 2008 the top red white light design is interesting it kinda reminds me of the h1-4 style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC_1203 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Anything current/ recent updates on the new Toronto Rocket cars??? How many are we getting in all, and when is the first trainset scheduled to arrive? (What fleet numbers will they adopt?) I´m really looking forward to these cars! The T1s in my opinion look too outdated even for cars from the ´90s (compared to other cities), and greatly lack customer amenities. I checked the Bombardier website but there´s absolutely no information about them, which is pretty uncommon for trains currently in production. Also, will drivers have their own separate side doors (as seen in picture below), and when will the shift to OPTO (one-person train operation) occur, if ever? (My dreams of driving a subway in Stockholm were recently dashed when I heard they´re automating their system by 2013! ) Driver observing platform monitors for when to close train doors in Stockholm, Sweden. C20-stock (Vagn 2000, built by Bombardier!). Photo courtesy of Juhana Hietaranta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambala Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 (My dreams of driving a subway in Stockholm were recently dashed when I heard they´re automating their system by 2013! ) I would suspect it is the dream of many transit agencies to have a fully automated subway, including TTC,...eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Anything current/ recent updates on the new Toronto Rocket cars??? How many are we getting in all, and when is the first trainset scheduled to arrive? (What fleet numbers will they adopt?) I´m really looking forward to these cars! The T1s in my opinion look too outdated even for cars from the ´90s (compared to other cities), and greatly lack customer amenities. I checked the Bombardier website but there´s absolutely no information about them, which is pretty uncommon for trains currently in production.Also, will drivers have their own separate side doors (as seen in picture below), and when will the shift to OPTO (one-person train operation) occur, if ever? (My dreams of driving a subway in Stockholm were recently dashed when I heard they´re automating their system by 2013! ) Driver observing platform monitors for when to close train doors in Stockholm, Sweden. C20-stock (Vagn 2000, built by Bombardier!). Photo courtesy of Juhana Hietaranta. Yes, drivers will have their own seperate doors. I really don't see the TTC having a fully automated system just yet. Remember the SRT is more than capable of operating without operators (well, if it was functioning at top ability) but the TTC keeps a driver on each train for safety and to open/close doors. Vancouver operates their Skytrain fully automated. Currently, the Yonge line is switching to cab signaling and that'll be installed and implemented in a few years. This won't automate the line, but it'll bring it closer to automation. Final point: The Yonge line operates on such close frequency that a second crew member is required to 'fall back' to reduce the terminal times as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Aquarius Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I would suspect it is the dream of many transit agencies to have a fully automated subway, including TTC,...eventually. Just as a side note, even in 2006, Toronto had an automated system...the LINK Train system at Pearson airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Just as a side note, even in 2006, Toronto had an automated system...the LINK Train system at Pearson airport. RT is kinda too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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