soo8513 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 Too bad there's no room for additional buses ... hold back Orion VII retirements to provide needed buses on streetcar routes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, soo8513 said: Too bad there's no room for additional buses ... hold back Orion VII retirements to provide needed buses on streetcar routes ... If they aren't given certification to operate them, they can't break the law and put them on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
354 Lawrence East Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 4100,4199,4004 Have moved to Russell Carhouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC4120fan Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, 354 Lawrence East said: 4100,4199,4004 Have moved to Russell Carhouse. This always happens. Nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
354 Lawrence East Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, Matthew TTC 4120 said: This always happens. Nothing special. I know, this is not a “special sighting” thread anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 hours ago, 354 Lawrence East said: 4100,4199,4004 Have moved to Russell Carhouse. omg, there aren't even movements unlike buses. Streetcars swap cars/runs between different divisions all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCOpITM Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 10 hours ago, 354 Lawrence East said: 4100,4199,4004 Have moved to Russell Carhouse. Any streetcar could be dispatched from Russell one morning and end up at Roncy the same evening and viceversa. The obvious exception to this however are the new cars which currently are always dispatched from and return to the Leslie Barns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 Ossington Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Back to the topic of fare inspection; I've occasionally encountered this problem (including today) where the fare machines misidentify the location and/or direction of the vehicle. ie) Occasionally an up-trip will be identified as a down-trip, and/or the location be further up/down the line, or at Leslie Carhouse (LakeShore and Leslie). The machines show no outward signs of being wonky. This can be analogous to the Presto problem which misidentifies the location of a tap and could pose a problem when getting inspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 4457 is in service on 504 and 4456 just returned to the Barns from being out for testing. Any info when 4458 was delivery as well any others since I am out of town? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allandale25 Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, drum118 said: 4457 is in service on 504 and 4456 just returned to the Barns from being out for testing. Any info when 4458 was delivery as well any others since I am out of town? Thanks Only report I could find from December 17th. Â Update: you may want to check the other thread where people are specifically posting about deliveries: "https://cptdb.ca/topic/16485-bombardier-flexity-deliveries/?page=10&tab=comments#comment-792194 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 4457 in service on 510 with 56 in the Barns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 4456 enter service on 512 today4459 must arrived before Christmas since it tractable and out for testing on 512 last night.4458 is not tractable yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 It looks like 4463 won't be making it before the New Year, as BBD said it should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, drum118 said: 4459 must arrived before Christmas since it tractable and out for testing on 512 last night. Apparently 4459 was offloaded on the 27th.  Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 hours ago, MiWay0310 said: It looks like 4463 won't be making it before the New Year, as BBD said it should have. I don't give a damn if we don't have more than 4461 - two cars is neither here nor there given that TTC will still be working on 58/59 when 60/61 show up as alleged above (after the UT bull it's hard to be confident of anything posted without a picture). What I do give a damn about is how empty TB will be by then and how soon we will see the first January cars, given BBD's history of pauses in that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Now 40 years old, the CLRV streetcar is a piece of Toronto history that almost never came to be 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 We had so much success with this design, why was it not popular elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfirenet Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Shaun said: We had so much success with this design, why was it not popular elsewhere? I'm suspecting that the Ontario government's attempt to sell the ICTS technology is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streety McCarface Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Shaun said: We had so much success with this design, why was it not popular elsewhere? Because streetcars weren't popular anywhere else (in North America). In Europe they were too wide and long to fit on narrow city streets for a lot of cities. Going back to North America, some cities were trying to expand their heavy rail systems when and after the streetcars were removed. The bay area was building BART in the 60s, Washington DC was building Metro in the 60s and 70s. These came after all the streetcars were removed from the city and they were having transit problems in the suburbs coming into downtown (San Francisco kept much of the trolley network, but not its interurban network, which is what served the suburbs). The cities of Boston and Philadelphia were mainly shifting away from streetcars in favor of subway systems. The exceptions being when Boston kept it's interurban Mattapan line because it was connected with the red line, and Philadelphia's Line 15. There are lines that remain in both cities (The green line for the MBTA and the SEPTA Subway Surface Lines) that were partially subway, and weren't abandoned as a result. Although Philadelphia focussed more on regional rail than subways during this time period, many parts of the system (the Broad Street Subway and the PATCO Speedline) were built during the transition period from streetcars & interurbans to subways (Also, I would argue that SEPTA currently has the best regional rail system in North America and one of the best in the world). New York City never really ran streetcars, but the elevated lines were decommissioned during the times of streetcar closures (See Second Avenue Subway). Chicago probably has the biggest transformation of all, many lines were decommissioned when elevated lines were put in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 hours ago, drum118 said: Now 40 years old, the CLRV streetcar is a piece of Toronto history that almost never came to be The article said this Quote And car 4002? It's still kicking, with a charter planned to take it around town on Saturday in recognition of its four decades of service. A charter is happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andythagiant Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Kelvin3157 said: The article said this A charter is happening! Here’s the charter at Greenwood and Queen shortly after departing from Russell. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutharsan Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 7 hours ago, Andythagiant said: Here’s the charter at Greenwood and Queen shortly after departing from Russell. I noticed the bus driver wore an old TTC uniform style in the 1990s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Here we go again. Time for some real back charges and huge fines Streetcar service disrupted after driver gets car stuck in Queen’s Quay tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, drum118 said: Here we go again. Time for some real back charges and huge fines Streetcar service disrupted after driver gets car stuck in Queen’s Quay tunnel Steezus Christ. When will this end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKLis Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 The excuse for using concrete on the right-of-way was so it could be used by EMS, fire, or police. How many of the emergency vehicles actually used it compared with non-emergency vehicles making use of it, and the number getting stuck? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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