Bus_Medic Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: What a waste of money if they have to replace all the readers within 7-8 years. ML should have done it right the first time since open payment did exist back in 2015. I guess it's okay since it's like a midlife refresh for the buses. Those readers have been replaced more than once (at least) due to wear and tear anyway, and so would have open payment readers had they been installed then, too. It’s an ongoing regimen and expense. Don’t think for a second that the ones they’re removing now are the very same units they threw on in 2015. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 If they needed to be replaced that frequently, it's no surprise they didn't have open payment back in 2015, when they weren't planning to have it running until the 2020s - would have been unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted September 10, 2022 Report Share Posted September 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: Those readers have been replaced more than once (at least) due to wear and tear anyway, and so would have open payment readers had they been installed then, too. It’s an ongoing regimen and expense. Don’t think for a second that the ones they’re removing now are the very same units they threw on in 2015. Now that you made it clear. Then is this replacement in line with the industry standard or ML designed something really bad. Then again, if you consider this as a bus part that gets replaced every couple of years then it's not really that surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 4:24 PM, Kelvin3157 said: Finally, the TTC adapts the new readers If you know and can disclose, what vehicle number is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andythagiant Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 From the September CEO report: At the start of September, TTC customers were informed that PRESTO is replacing card readers on Wheel-Trans buses and contracted accessible minivans. The installation is scheduled for completion in November. Starting next month, the replacement of card readers will begin on TTC buses and streetcars, which is expected to continue until December. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 This hasn't been brought up recently, but by now some of you are familiar with the vending machines at the GO and UP Express that allow you to buy and reload your PRESTO Card. In an episode of the Metrolinx "Between the Lines" podcast dated June 9, 2022, they are going to roll out new ticket vending machines that will not only allow you to buy and/or reload PRESTO Cards, but they will also be capable of accepting higher demoninations of bills (i.e. $50CDN or $100CDN) - a barrier that is preventing on what the current ticket vending machines offer. As for the new ticket vending machines, they will be manufacturered by an Italian company called "Sigma S.p.A." Works Cited: Llewellyn, M. (Host), 2022, June 9, "Episode 21 - Top 5 reasons customers get in touch with GO Transit customer service". In Between The Lines. Metrolinx. "Sigma TVMs will also arrive in Canada." Sigma S.p.A., https://www.sigmaspa.com/en/news-en/le-tvms-sigma-arriveranno-anche-in-canada/. Accessed 6 Dec 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshuamumble Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 YRT, DRT, Burlington Transit and Hamilton Street Railway now accept credit and debit card payments (including mobile wallets) effective today, joining MiWay, Brampton Transit, Oakville Transit, GO Transit and UP Express: (credit/debit payments are not accepted on contracted TTC routes in York Region due to reader incompatibility) https://www.metrolinx.com/en/news/tap-your-credit-card-to-travel-across-local-905-transit-systems- 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Joshuamumble said: YRT, DRT, Burlington Transit and Hamilton Street Railway now accept credit and debit card payments (including mobile wallets) effective today, joining MiWay, Brampton Transit, Oakville Transit, GO Transit and UP Express: (credit/debit payments are not accepted on contracted TTC routes in York Region due to reader incompatibility) The article says that only UP Express takes debit - that it's coming later for the other systems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ. Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 9/8/2022 at 4:24 PM, Kelvin3157 said: Finally, the TTC adapts the new readers also one interesting thing with the readers and vision is that if someone taps a declined presto card, the operator wont get a notification on the vision computer on the bus anymore, maybe because many complained it got annoying since practically every one in few people would cheat with declined presto cards on a route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 14 hours ago, CJ. said: also one interesting thing with the readers and vision is that if someone taps a declined presto card, the operator wont get a notification on the vision computer on the bus anymore, maybe because many complained it got annoying since practically every one in few people would cheat with declined presto cards on a route I've don't think that was ever a feature on vision. I've never seen it since vision was installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said: I've don't think that was ever a feature on vision. I've never seen it since vision was installed. They’re two independent standalone systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ. Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Someguy3071 said: I've don't think that was ever a feature on vision. I've never seen it since vision was installed. When someone taps a declined presto (front or back) the bus will briefly notify through vision. It also gives the standard 1sec beep tone. sometimes it shows it on the screen sometimes it doesn't but it always makes the noise regardless if a declined presto is tapped, also its been here for a while before I even started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, CJ. said: When someone taps a declined presto (front or back) the bus will briefly notify through vision. It also gives the standard 1sec beep tone. sometimes it shows it on the screen sometimes it doesn't but it always makes the noise regardless if a declined presto is tapped, also its been here for a while before I even started It doesn't show anything on vision and as Bus_Medic said Presto and Vision are two independent standalone systems. He would know since he was installing Vision systems in buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZümmyZüm Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, CJ. said: When someone taps a declined presto (front or back) the bus will briefly notify through vision. It also gives the standard 1sec beep tone. sometimes it shows it on the screen sometimes it doesn't but it always makes the noise regardless if a declined presto is tapped, also its been here for a while before I even started On some agencies that utilize clever devices it will indicate the status of the card such as OC Transpo, that is because the system OC uses has full fare integration through the system, TTC does not use theirs to issue transfers/accept payments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy3071 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, ZümmyZüm said: On some agencies that utilize clever devices it will indicate the status of the card such as OC Transpo, that is because the system OC uses has full fare integration through the system, TTC does not use theirs to issue transfers/accept payments Exactly that I've been driving with Vision since it was installed and have never seen anything like what was described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Someguy3071 said: It doesn't show anything on vision and as Bus_Medic said Presto and Vision are two independent standalone systems. He would know since he was installing Vision systems in buses. Just ignore him, he’s a troll judging by his post history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted February 2, 2023 Report Share Posted February 2, 2023 Some new fare gate readers have been installed at St. Clair for a trial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 One of the new PRESTO TVMs (manufacturered by Sigma S.p.A) was recently showcased down at a recent trade show dedicating to "Transport Tickering" (vendors like Sigma, Conduent, INIT, Thales, etc. were present at that trade show in London, UK). The picture supplied is from a Linkedin Page. Not sure how the new TVMs are different than the ones found on the GO Transit (plus UP Express and to a less extent - the TTC) system . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 21 hours ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said: One of the new PRESTO TVMs (manufacturered by Sigma S.p.A) was recently showcased down at a recent trade show dedicating to "Transport Tickering" (vendors like Sigma, Conduent, INIT, Thales, etc. were present at that trade show in London, UK). The picture supplied is from a Linkedin Page. Not sure how the new TVMs are different than the ones found on the GO Transit (plus UP Express and to a less extent - the TTC) system . I don't really use the wide PRESTO TVMs so I don't know if these are new features or not. It appears it takes both cash and credit/debit and can also issue tickets as well as sell PRESTO cards. Presumably you'd have to load the card after purchasing it, as I doubt the mechanism inside will load it with funds before issuing it. Is the top part of the TVM advertising space or possibly used for vehicle arrival information if these are rolled out at say LRT or BRT stops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted March 31, 2023 Report Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Gil said: I don't really use the wide PRESTO TVMs so I don't know if these are new features or not. It appears it takes both cash and credit/debit and can also issue tickets as well as sell PRESTO cards. Presumably you'd have to load the card after purchasing it, as I doubt the mechanism inside will load it with funds before issuing it. Is the top part of the TVM advertising space or possibly used for vehicle arrival information if these are rolled out at say LRT or BRT stops? Sadly, I don't have any answers regarding the "top part of the TVM" - to my knowledge, it is likely for advertising space (but could have the potential for vehicle arrival information). The official answer is - you have to wait until these new TVMs go into full action in the coming months and years ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshuamumble Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 PRESTO now accepts Mastercard, Visa and Interac debit cards for fare payment as of yesterday on GO Transit, YRT (except contracted TTC routes in York Region), Durham Region Transit, MiWay (except TTC route 52 west of Pearson), Brampton Transit, Burlington Transit, Oakville Transit and Hamilton Street Railway; same policy and procedures as with credit cards: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/transit-riders-across-most-of-ontario-can-now-use-debit-cards-to-pay-for-fares-1.6380109 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Joshuamumble said: PRESTO now accepts Mastercard, Visa and Interac debit cards for fare payment as of yesterday on GO Transit, YRT (except contracted TTC routes in York Region), Durham Region Transit, MiWay (except TTC route 52 west of Pearson), Brampton Transit, Burlington Transit, Oakville Transit and Hamilton Street Railway; same policy and procedures as with credit cards: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/transit-riders-across-most-of-ontario-can-now-use-debit-cards-to-pay-for-fares-1.6380109 Debit/Credit has worked on TTC vehicles when they cross into Mississauga since the new readers were installed. It is likely the same for when they go north of Steeles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ. Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Can you use Apple Pay for PRESTO by any chance? One of the most demanded features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 22 hours ago, CJ. said: Can you use Apple Pay for PRESTO by any chance? One of the most demanded features Currently, there hasn't been any evidence if PRESTO can be added on Apple Pay, Google Pay, Samsung Pay (just to name a few) - but hopefully there have been no plans yet - so far. I myself, have a PRESTO Card along with a few credit cards (some of them are configured on Google Pay) to pay for transit (not just for paying transit fares, but loading money onto the PRESTO Card). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 I had GO put a discount code on a Presto card. To my surprise, discount also applied to TTC. I had thought that discount or special fare codes were per agency. Are they universal, so all agencies accept the single one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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