drum118 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Shaun said: So if Bombardier goes under and is not able to merge with another company who will own the patents and technical knowledge of how to build more Flexity Streetcars? Will the TTC be able to tender the same cars with another manufacturer? It depends on how the company is broken up and sold off. Who every buys BBD as a whole or part, they get patents and technical knowledge for the product that BBD built for that part only. If the whole rail division is sold off, everything everything from patents and technical knowledge to plants and jigs goes to the buyer. The buyer will decide if any plants will close or sold off based on needs and other things. The writing been on the wall well over 2-3 years that Thunder Bay was heading for closure as there was nothing on the books after TTC and GO order were completed. Kingston has the best chance staying open than Thunder Bay. TTC will get another car from X manufacture based on TTC spec and will be built on X model that meets TTC spec. The only way TTC can get the same car as the Flexity is X manufacture buying the Patent either from BBD or the company that bought it if they weren't the buyer in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Pardon the blurry photo of 4405 but it had left Lambton Yard by Wednesday morning so I couldn't get a better shot of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43 Kennedy Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Looks like 4603 entered service on 501 last Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, 43 Kennedy said: Looks like 4603 entered service on 501 last Thursday. No, those were test runs signed onto 501. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, 43 Kennedy said: Looks like 4603 entered service on 501 last Thursday. I posted on Monday that 4603 was doing in service testing. In fact, it was in service testing as a 501 and 301 rest of the day and night and became a dot well heading to the barn. Considering the fact that 4603 was off loaded on Jan 24, impossible for it be in service 5 days after arrival when the shortest has been 8 days a few years ago. 12-17 days these days. It along 4601 & 4406 in the service bay at this time. 4601 been here 11 days so far and 4406 been here 44 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Car 4405 is back on property after 299 days. It was sent off to La Pocatiere on April 10, 2019. It was unloaded at Hillcrest this morning (i.e. Mon, Feb. 3). Car 4538 was used to tow it off of the railcar transporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 hours ago, ttc rider said: Car 4405 is back on property after 299 days. It was sent off to La Pocatiere on April 10, 2019. It was unloaded at Hillcrest this morning (i.e. Mon, Feb. 3). Car 4538 was used to tow it off of the railcar transporter. It also tracking at Hillcrest. 4406 and 4603 out testing last night and currently in the service bay with 4601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Car 4405 appears to have issues after offloading this morning and will require towing to Leslie tonight. Car 4504 has arrived at Hillcrest for the tow job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Now 4407 is on its way from Quebec, will Kingston see it first or will Hillcrest?? Was loaded June 7, 2019 at Hillcrest for Quebec. 4406 is taking longer than 4400 for reenter service and spending time on the service yard track these days that its GPS was missing over 2 days 4601 been spending time on the service tracks as well was out testing Tuesday and early Wed. Looks like 4603 may go into service before 4601, as it and 4405 are the only cars out of the 4 currently in the service bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4603 is westbound King St and has enter service as a 310 after arriving January 24, 2019. Will become an 510 (kg510) once on Spadina. 4406 and 4601 are out in the yard on the service track most of Friday and still there. They have spent time this week on that track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4405 is out doing its first day of testing after arriving February 3, 2020 4603 is now an 510A car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Anyone know what up with 4601 that been sitting on the service track in the yard the last 2 weeks considering it arrived January 21, 2019? It should be in service now. 4406 is not tracking anymore for the last day or so and was last seen 2 days ago when it was tracking. Arrived December 19, 2019. 4405 was last seen a day ago after it arrived February 3, 2020 and has spent most of its time in the service bay. I am assuming 4407 is still sitting in Montreal due rail closure. That was a nice PR Photo of 4471 sitting in TB plant that was to be ship to TTC since no reports that it been ship or off loaded so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 hours ago, drum118 said: Anyone know what up with 4601 that been sitting on the service track in the yard the last 2 weeks considering it arrived January 21, 2019? It should be in service now. 4406 is not tracking anymore for the last day or so and was last seen 2 days ago when it was tracking. Arrived December 19, 2019. 4405 was last seen a day ago after it arrived February 3, 2020 and has spent most of its time in the service bay. I am assuming 4407 is still sitting in Montreal due rail closure. That was a nice PR Photo of 4471 sitting in TB plant that was to be ship to TTC since no reports that it been ship or off loaded so far. the tracking system reset last Sunday. So if the vehicle wasn't turn on after Sunday, it won't be tracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 What's going on with 4401? It's a month after the last unit was delivery. Does it take them this long to finish this unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 hours ago, Orion V said: What's going on with 4401? It's a month after the last unit was delivery. Does it take them this long to finish this unit? Well they didn't do 4400 or 4402 in a month, and it has to get the frame welds done on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit geek Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, PCC Guy said: Well they didn't do 4400 or 4402 in a month, and it has to get the frame welds done on top of that. Maybe they are going to use it as a VISION pilot car - complete with digital route maps and the such (photo not necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Transit geek said: Maybe they are going to use it as a VISION pilot car - Huh? There already is a VISION pilot car - 4486 - and it didn't have to leave the city to get that equipment. And even if they were doing another, how would that explain its prolonged absence? It's hardly of much use to anyone if they can't test it here. 23 minutes ago, Transit geek said: complete with digital route maps and the such (photo not necessary). What indication has the TTC given that this is an avenue they are pursuing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 I heard from someone that there is more than one flexity with vision can anyone confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Ultimate said: I heard from someone that there is more than one flexity with vision can anyone confirm 4457, 4486 and 4538 are the 3 that currently tracks with the "speedKmHr" tag on nextbus XML indicating they have VISION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Orion V said: What's going on with 4401? It's a month after the last unit was delivery. Does it take them this long to finish this unit? It took close to a year to get 4400 & 4402 rebuilt as production cars. 4400 was shipped to Ottawa for testing and then to Thunder Bay Sept 2013 and return July 4, 2014. 4402 was Shipped To Thunder Bay June 12, 2015 and return November 24, 2016 4601 still sitting on the service track in the yard and been there over 2 weeks. No idea what wrong with it considering it arrived Jan 21 4406 is back tracking after been off line a week that arrived December 19, 2019 and 4405 was last seen a day ago that arrived February 3, 2020. Could be they are having VISION installed in them. 4471 & 4478 still in Thunder Bay. 4401 could be here by June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLRV4094 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 4601 is out on 512 this morning 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted February 28, 2020 Report Share Posted February 28, 2020 Car 4403 is back on property after 372 days. It was sent off to La Pocatiere on February 20, 2019. It was delivered directly to Leslie by flatbed truck this morning (i.e. Thu, Feb. 27, 2020). On 2/24/2020 at 8:09 AM, PCC Guy said: Well they didn't do 4400 or 4402 in a month, and it has to get the frame welds done on top of that. The re-welding on car 4401 had been completed in La Pocatiere before the car was sent to Thunder Bay in late April last year. On 2/24/2020 at 5:39 PM, drum118 said: 4406 is back tracking after been off line a week that arrived December 19, 2019 and 4405 was last seen a day ago that arrived February 3, 2020. Could be they are having VISION installed in them. Car 4406 was re-delivered on December 16, 2019, not December 19. VISION installation appears to be done at Hillcrest. So far, cars 4457, 4486, 4516 & 4538 are done, with cars 4418 & 4509 being worked on currently. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 7:34 PM, ttc rider said: Car 4403 is back on property after 372 days. It was sent off to La Pocatiere on February 20, 2019. It was delivered directly to Leslie by flatbed truck this morning (i.e. Thu, Feb. 27, 2020). Was it the blockade that forced bombardier not to use Rail? Could of used CP from Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltingtomato Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 hours ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said: Was it the blockade that forced bombardier not to use Rail? Could of used CP from Montreal Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't La Pocatiere served by CN? If so, wouldn't the interchange cost from CN to CP be more expensive then the cost of just using the truck the whole way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 18 hours ago, meltingtomato said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't La Pocatiere served by CN? If so, wouldn't the interchange cost from CN to CP be more expensive then the cost of just using the truck the whole way? All the cars shipped from Quebec go to Kingston first so far that is on CN tracks. Sound like Kingston is putting the cars back together before being ship to TTC. Being taking about 40-45 days for a car to go back into service once TTC has it, but 4406 has taken 76 days so far and not in service at tis time. Other than 4403 due to no rail service, all cars have been shipped by rail to TTC from Kingston. 4402 is out testing on St Clair that been missing for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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