Ed T. Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 How much does the drivetrain in the New Flyer LFs differ from the 7000 Orion Vs? Do the NFLFs ever make it on the 192? I've followed a few deadheading on the QEW and they move right along. After the performance of the 6600 and 7000 Orion Vs and the NFLF, the Orion VII with the forever turbo lag must have come as quite a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not much. Turbo is waste gated, a newer engine computer, the rest is flyer plumbing. One big difference is the final drive (axle) but if all the computations were put in, it likely works out pretty similar. The low floor flyers use an axle where the diff ratio is much closer to 1:1, and the reduction is done using planetary gears in the hubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 How much does the drivetrain in the New Flyer LFs differ from the 7000 Orion Vs? Do the NFLFs ever make it on the 192? I've followed a few deadheading on the QEW and they move right along. After the performance of the 6600 and 7000 Orion Vs and the NFLF, the Orion VII with the forever turbo lag must have come as quite a disappointment. The 7300s were the original airport buses I believe. They are slow off the line but once they get going they really go. I don't think they are governed either as some of them go well over 100km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not much. Turbo is waste gated, a newer engine computer, the rest is flyer plumbing. One big difference is the final drive (axle) but if all the computations were put in, it likely works out pretty similar. The low floor flyers use an axle where the diff ratio is much closer to 1:1, and the reduction is done using planetary gears in the hubs. Is the idea behind the rear axle to make it lower profile, thus lowering the floor at the back part of the bus? Also, I haven't seen a NFLF blowing black or blue smoke out the stack--unlike any number of "clean" VII hybrids that put out a smoke shield. Maybe it's just Queensway maintenance--the 8000s look to be running clean as well. The 7300s were the original airport buses I believe. They are slow off the line but once they get going they really go. I don't think they are governed either as some of them go well over 100km/h. 120 km/h would not surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Those 50 series on the Flyers dont have the EGR system right? Are they the same generation of engine as the Orion V's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Also, I haven't seen a NFLF blowing black or blue smoke out the stack--unlike any number of "clean" VII hybrids that put out a smoke shield. Maybe it's just Queensway maintenance--the 8000s look to be running clean as well. 120 km/h would not surprise me. They certainly were blowing black smoke before they went in for the rebuilds a couple of years ago. They do seem to have held up a bit better after the rebuild than the first Orion VIIs, however. Unless things have changed recently, all of the TTC's buses are limited to 105km/h. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 They certainly were blowing black smoke before they went in for the rebuilds a couple of years ago. They do seem to have held up a bit better after the rebuild than the first Orion VIIs, however. Unless things have changed recently, all of the TTC's buses are limited to 105km/h. Dan Most are governed to 100 km/h.... Just not the 7300s. 120 is easily obtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 For the east end bus fans, finally Malvern have artics out on the 85 on a Saturday. It's about time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Birchmount Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I know this has been discussed before but I cannot seem to find it anywhere, so my apologies in advance but how do you access the nextbus xml data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I know this has been discussed before but I cannot seem to find it anywhere, so my apologies in advance but how do you access the nextbus xml data? Here's the feed with switches for 510 - http://webservices.nextbus.com/service/publicXMLFeed?command=vehicleLocations&a=ttc&r=510&t=0 Documentation is at http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=4427790e6f21d210VgnVCM1000003dd60f89RCRD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Birchmount Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Here's the feed with switches for 510 - http://webservices.nextbus.com/service/publicXMLFeed?command=vehicleLocations&a=ttc&r=510&t=0 Documentation is at http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=4427790e6f21d210VgnVCM1000003dd60f89RCRD Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 in case anybody is interested. Eglinton will be taking over 22 Coxwell next board period. How it works is when the 70 Oconnor reaches Coxwell and Oconnor, it will change to either 22A or 22B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 in case anybody is interested. Eglinton will be taking over 22 Coxwell next board period. How it works is when the 70 Oconnor reaches Coxwell and Oconnor, it will change to either 22A or 22B. One seat ride to my kid's daycare FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayone Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Why don't TTC buses have "GO JAYS GO" on their signs like GO buses? Even the rear signs say "GO JAYS"....and then "sorry..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 TTC doesn't want to offend those who are not Blue Jays fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Why don't TTC buses have "GO JAYS GO" on their signs like GO buses? Even the rear signs say "GO JAYS"....and then "sorry..." Actually a number of 510 streetcars had a printed card at the front saying Go Jays Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.dicion Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 The reason was a complaint made a long time ago that the destination signs were displaying too much information, at the time the signs have to scroll 3 to 5 times (including the P/R signs). Example: 133 Neilson <flash> 133 To Finch <flash> via Centenary <flash> !! Go Jays Go!! repeat or another old example: 39C Finch East <flash> EXPRESS <flash> 39C To McCowan <flash> EXPRESS < !! Go Jays Go!!. WIth the entire fleet of buses and Flexity streetcars, their destination signs can display two lines of text. So this shouldn't be as much of a problem nowadays. But with the management printing those Go Jays Go window cards, doesn't look like they are in a hurry to add them to the sign program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 The reason was a complaint made a long time ago that the destination signs were displaying too much information, at the time the signs have to scroll 3 to 5 times (including the P/R signs). Example: 133 Neilson <flash> 133 To Finch <flash> via Centenary <flash> !! Go Jays Go!! repeat or another old example: 39C Finch East <flash> EXPRESS <flash> 39C To McCowan <flash> EXPRESS < !! Go Jays Go!!. WIth the entire fleet of buses and Flexity streetcars, their destination signs can display two lines of text. So this shouldn't be as much of a problem nowadays. But with the management printing those Go Jays Go window cards, doesn't look like they are in a hurry to add them to the sign program. We still have long signs like those that serve the 905s that have to display extra fare. The 52B/52D are one of the extreme ones. E.g. 52B Lawrence West to Westwood <flash> 52B Lawrence West via Dixon Rd <flash> Extra Fare Required, West of Airport. On the side sign, it's already 5 messages long. The Flexity Streetcar also have a smaller sign. The 510 Spadina sign cannot fit To Queens Quay and Spadina on the same line. I don't like these signs actually. The 510 route number is smaller and the TTC chose not to display the numbers in full size. Then most of the route destinations are too long. E.g. 505 Dundas to Broadview Stn <flash> 505 Dundas via Dundas. Eventually TTC wants to add branch letters like 510A to King, 510B to QQ&S, 510C to Union Stn and of course 510S Short Turn. Many destinations don't fits in one line. Queens Quay and Bathurst Roncesvalles and Queen Broadview Stn via King Greenwood and Queen Coxwell and Queen etc etc etc. The TTC also added one extra stroll line, "Short Turn". I don't think GO Jays Go will actually happen in the signs ever. And of course you can't take a good picture of the sign while the streetcar is moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 the 905 is programmed deliberately so passengers have no excuse of paying extra fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramguy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Then there's the MT #8 which flashes "Via Seniors Centre" for a millisecond! I preferred the signs the way they were before. How much info do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Why don't the TTC program their signs so that PR messages are only available on NIS buses? OC Transpo have a huge number of PR signs, but except for a few such as the Sno-Bus, they are only used when the buses are out of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexG Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Anyone know if military pension time carries over to TTC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Birchmount Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 With the extension of the 302 to Bingham Loop, will runs 41 and 42 from the 24 still go onto the 302? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcgeek Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 With the extension of the 302 to Bingham Loop, will runs 41 and 42 from the 24 still go onto the 302?Why not stay up to find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51 Leslie Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Actually a number of 510 streetcars had a printed card at the front saying Go Jays Go2 buses I saw today (8310 and 1799) have printed cards that say Go Jays GoSent from my LGMS323 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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