lip Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Apparently ~200 of the 350+ of the workers that are unvaccinated and effected by the TTC's vaccination policy will be going through the process of getting their vaccines or will be accommodated in some fashion (i'm guessing valid medical exemption). Not surprised at all because as I mentioned before, when push comes to shove and when a lot of those people dont see the paycheck coming in they will change their mind. It was a cute bluff by them though. As for the remaining portion, well that's their problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 All of these buses stopped at the top of York Mills, why not turn them around and go back east? Stopping at the top of the hill wont help anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZümmyZüm Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 11 hours ago, lip said: Apparently ~200 of the 350+ of the workers that are unvaccinated and effected by the TTC's vaccination policy will be going through the process of getting their vaccines or will be accommodated in some fashion (i'm guessing valid medical exemption). Not surprised at all because as I mentioned before, when push comes to shove and when a lot of those people dont see the paycheck coming in they will change their mind. It was a cute bluff by them though. As for the remaining portion, well that's their problem. The medical exemption ones will fall flat and be denied. Maybe then they’ll get their shots but as for the ones who were already given a termination letter. If the union can guarantee they get their jobs back on condition of getting the shots, I say lucky them. But there isn’t any accommodation they’ll get for a public service job like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 There are some reasonable grounds for exemptions, Ontario even lists a bunch. https://health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/publichealth/coronavirus/docs/vaccine/medical_exemptions_to_vaccination.pdf But a lot of people will try to falsify these. But I think if properly documented and verified, I don't think they can be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/ttc-union-calls-for-new-policy-that-would-temporarily-halt-service-during-some-major-snow-events-1.5744811 Even though it was a record storm I still think services where handled poorly. They could have re-route those York Mills buses to other stations like Bayview or Lawrence to avoid those hills. Why didn't they co-ordinate with the city to give priority to those hilly areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmissions1 Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shaun said: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/ttc-union-calls-for-new-policy-that-would-temporarily-halt-service-during-some-major-snow-events-1.5744811 Even though it was a record storm I still think services where handled poorly. They could have re-route those York Mills buses to other stations like Bayview or Lawrence to avoid those hills. Why didn't they co-ordinate with the city to give priority to those hilly areas? The city only has so many resources to handle the significant snowfall. I do agree that a snow route plan should have been planned with road supervisors coordinated along the hotspots (hilly areas) and making adjustments to alternative stations where possible or turn-back points. 540 buses out of 1,300 in-service and still around 300 to 400 buses still stuck waiting to be retrieved. Roughly 41.5 percent of buses stuck. Reminds me of the time in February 2013 where Ottawa's OC Transpo had a similar situation where they had around 200 buses that went down along certain sections and witnessing first hand. With how one articulated bus lost traction and got stuck with 7 other buses stuck behind and the bus I was on stuck because it skidded into a snowbank while parked. Some are saying these major snowfalls happen once every 10 or so years. Despite how often that happens, you would think they would still have something since some people can't stay home and still need to get to work such as grocery store employees. I do know that in extreme weather events such as extreme snowfall, some retailers will close early and send everyone home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 This situation has happened before with 10 or 15CM which happens a few times a year. And to have a plan to redirect buses from hilly places to other stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Shaun said: This situation has happened before with 10 or 15CM which happens a few times a year. And to have a plan to redirect buses from hilly places to other stations. Kind of a false solution, as there were lots of photos of buses getting stuck in non hilly places too. There was a pair that got stuck in the middle of the intersection at Yonge and Finch and several got stuck in the area around Don Mills station as per the today's sightings thread, on either flat land or gentle hills. As for your concrete proposed solutions, Bayview and Lawrence is a two level intersection and there's a hill on Bayview leading out from under the 401 towards Sheppard too, so that seems like a pair of almost certain locations for those buses to get stuck if they managed to make it so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, T3G said: Kind of a false solution, as there were lots of photos of buses getting stuck in non hilly places too. There was a pair that got stuck in the middle of the intersection at Yonge and Finch and several got stuck in the area around Don Mills station as per the today's sightings thread, on either flat land or gentle hills. As for your concrete proposed solutions, Bayview and Lawrence is a two level intersection and there's a hill on Bayview leading out from under the 401 towards Sheppard too, so that seems like a pair of almost certain locations for those buses to get stuck if they managed to make it so far. Do you have a better idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shaun said: Do you have a better idea? Do I have to have a better idea in order to point out that your proposed solutions will also get the buses stuck? There was a photo of a bus that got stuck in the turn from Don Mills onto Fairview Mall Drive. This intersection is as flat as they come. If a bus got stuck here, why do you think they'd be able to handle a detour to Lawrence or Bayview stations? But to answer your question, I agree with the union. Temporarily suspending service for a period of time while the plows work seems to be the best in a bad situation. A lot of people in online comments sections are complaining about how they won't be able to get to work, but a lot of them weren't able to anyway when their buses got stuck, and their presence on the roads just makes it harder for the snowploughs now to dig the city out, especially when there's vehicles side by side on a major road. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 I think back in the day when we had Orion V's and Fishies the buses didnt get stuck as much likely because they where not low floor. Do modern buses have traction control or some type of limited slip function other than ABS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Shaun said: I think back in the day when we had Orion V's and Fishies the buses didnt get stuck as much likely because they where not low floor. Do modern buses have traction control or some type of limited slip function other than ABS? The hell they didn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC7957 Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 Toronto Fire Rescue 325 and Pumper 332 were dispatched to a fire call on bus 9205 at Castle Frank station earlier today. I heard it was because the bus was revving while stuck or something like that so it caught fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Shaun said: I think back in the day when we had Orion V's and Fishies the buses didnt get stuck as much likely because they where not low floor. Do modern buses have traction control or some type of limited slip function other than ABS? Hahaha I remember a bunch of times operators in the FIshbowls asking people, move back, move back everyone squeeze in the back for more weight to aid in traction. Havent heard that in a really long time since orion VII's thru the nova's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: The hell they didn’t. Do low floor buses have less clearence? YRT uses tires that are more aggressive. Would that help things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Bus_Medic said: The hell they didn’t. Do any current TTC buses have any sort of diff lock option or any sort of limited slip setup in the diff? Or have any in the past? I've never paid attention if a bus is doing a one-wheel-peel when stuck in snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, MK78 said: Do any current TTC buses have any sort of diff lock option or any sort of limited slip setup in the diff? Or have any in the past? I've never paid attention if a bus is doing a one-wheel-peel when stuck in snow. Diff lockers on buses is not a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said: Diff lockers on buses is not a thing. Ah, good to know. Would be neat if they had an automatically engaging mechanical lock like in Chevy/GM pickups, otherwise known as the G80, that way it would be completely oblivious to the operator. Probably would be a durability/reliability issue though. Wonder if we'll ever see more than one drive axle in a bus, or individual hub motors in future electric buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 9:50 PM, MK78 said: Ah, good to know. Would be neat if they had an automatically engaging mechanical lock like in Chevy/GM pickups, otherwise known as the G80, that way it would be completely oblivious to the operator. Probably would be a durability/reliability issue though. Wonder if we'll ever see more than one drive axle in a bus, or individual hub motors in future electric buses. I've always thought about programmed "diff locks" on a bus if it has individual hub motors. There doesn't need to be a mechanical connection but you could definitely program them to "lock" and spin at the same speed. And there's less risk of mechanical damage from operator misuse. Also I believe the XE60 is a 6x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 If you design it like a streetcar without an axle connecting the wheels I'm sure you could have 4x4 like a Tesla. Like this. https://www.zf.com/products/en/cv/products_64202.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 City of Toronto, TTC and Metrolinx conclude on-road testing of the West Rouge Automated Shuttle lmao good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK78 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, T3G said: City of Toronto, TTC and Metrolinx conclude on-road testing of the West Rouge Automated Shuttle lmao good riddance Haha... Thank god. These things are nowhere near ready to be driving people around on the roads yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 What a joke. Those residents must be really disappointed that they really never got a chance to even experience it after years of advertisements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: What a joke. Those residents must be really disappointed that they really never got a chance to even experience it after years of advertisements Nah. We’re fine with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 So I should have gotten some pictures of the fake dinky bus's bus stop signs when I was last down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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