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At least you are covered for an entire year and not need to make a trip monthly or needing to refill a card with a new monthly pass. Especially when most transit agencies only offer monthly pass option. Some still do the digital option with a reloadable card while others like my local transit agency still deal with paper. I don't really trust the digital option in case there are problems with activation, at least a printed monthly pass is still useable.
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New rolling stock for Via-Rail outside the Quebec City-Windsor corridor is planned in the 2024 federal budget. No cost estimate was provided to protect the negotiating position of putting the large scale order to tender. Page 256 of the budget document. Final comments: It is long overdue considering some cars are several decades old and trying to keep them in-service is difficult needing to make parts since they are not easily obtainable. If no decision is made to procure new rolling stock, service cuts would have to be made for dwindling rolling stock. Attached the news report mentioning the challenges of running rolling stock that is several decades old.
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Zone maps are now available for the transit-on-demand service with detailed stop locations and connection points. Seeing the stops being installed with the poles, but no signs up yet. Unfortunately I am not able to attach the files due to limitation sizes. Will attach the links instead: Zone A https://www.barrie.ca/Transit-ON-Demand-Zone-A.pdf Zone B https://www.barrie.ca/Transit-ON-Demand-Zone-B.pdf Zone C https://www.barrie.ca/Transit-ON-Demand-Zone-C.pdf Zone D https://www.barrie.ca/Transit-ON-Demand-Zone-D.pdf Zone G https://www.barrie.ca/Transit-ON-Demand-Zone-G.pdf New Transit Network Info sessions are available on these dates: Monday, April 22, 2024 | 12:00–2:00pm at City Hall Rotunda (70 Collier Street) Wednesday, April 24, 2024 | 10:30am–1:30pm at Parkview Centre (189 Blake Street) Friday, April 26, 2024 | 10:30am–1:30pm at Allandale Recreation Centre (190 Bayview Avenue) Saturday, May 18, 2024 | 9:30am–1:00pm at Barrie Farmer's Market outside of City Hall (70 Collier Street) Final comments: The info sessions are pretty limited considering that they are either in the morning or afternoon. At the same time, they don't really target the places for travellers that could benefit such as the downtown transit terminal where most transfers are made. Or a session at the college where most of the ridership comes from. I guess with the world wide web today, info is more accessible online for those with a web connection. Though some people still prefer paper copies of info versus digital.
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I have noticed a lot of departure reductions. Some are understandable which for me, I am along the Barrie line. Here are the bus trips eliminated during the weekdays along the Barrie corridor: From Barrie Bus Terminal: 2:05 PM, 3:40 PM and 5:45 PM trips are eliminated since there are other trips nearby (2:45 PM and 6 PM) that are available 3:40 PM trip was most likely eliminated due to low demand plus how Ontario Northland operates a trip express to Yorkdale around 3:30 PM providing a faster trip Final departure for 68B is 10:55 PM instead of 9:55 PM with connection to Union Station Bus Terminal most likely to avoid competing with Ontario Northland at 9:30 PM From Union Station/East Gwillimbury: 65E trip to East Gwillimbury at 8:12 AM which interlines into 68B at the end is eliminated 68B connecting trip at East Gwillimbury for the 1:59 PM train departure from Union is eliminated due to low demand 68A from Aurora Go at 7:57 PM extended to Barrie Bus Terminal instead of terminating at Allandale Waterfront 65E trip at 1:12 AM is discontinued with the final trips at 12:12 AM and 2:12 AM Not as much reductions on the weekends for Barrie line train service, but the trips north of Aurora Go Station are pretty limited and have been for at almost a year. Though the interesting part is the final departure for the 68B from Barrie Bus Terminal is 11:15 PM to connect with a bus going towards Union Station. Not sure who would be out that late unless maybe at a bar or something. Here are some other changes to highlight: Route 90B Lakeshore East Lakeshore East bus departure at 1:30 AM is eliminated on weekdays with the final train at 12:20 AM Monday to Thursday or 12:53 AM on Friday A special bus trip operates at 12:50 AM Monday to Thursday or 12:53 AM train on Friday Weekend service is unaffected Route 21: Milton Final trip from Union Station Bus Terminal at 2:20 AM on weekends will be discontinued, the final trip on weekends/holidays will be 1:20 AM Route 40: Hamilton/Richmond Hill via Pearson Airport Terminal 1 Frequency will be reduced every two hours during the early morning hours Route 94: Pickering/Square One via Highway 401 Select time periods to be reduced to every two hours instead of hourly in all time periods. Frequency from Pickering Go Station reduced to every two hours on weekdays between 6:30 PM until 4:25 AM the next morning Frequency from Square One reduced to every two hours on weekdays from 11:20 PM until 11:25 AM the next day Frequency from Pickering Go Station reduced to every two hours on weekends from 8:25 PM until 4:25 AM the next day Frequency from Square One reduced to every two hours on weekends from 11:20 PM until 5:20 AM the next day Final comments: I have definitely noticed the reductions in bus service. Especially years ago when you could catch a train and if it wasn't going the entire route, you could catch a connecting bus to continue beyond the transfer point to where your final destination is. Now some core and train support routes have definitely been reduced over the years. Even with the rail network getting upgrades, it is still many years off until trains start operating on the expanded stretch.
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No service changes for the spring booking. The current schedules implemented in winter will simply rollover into the spring booking. Summer weekend service to Petrie Island starts on June 15th (Saturday). Canadian Aviation and Space Museum along with Canada Agriculture and Food Museum on June 23rd (Sunday). Schedules will be available closer to the date.
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Union Pearson Express
GTAmissions1 replied to Greater Golden Horseshoe Transit's topic in Greater Toronto Area
Starting on April 27th to coincide with the Go Transit service changes, Union Pearson Express will change the route format to account for more frequent service on the Kitchener Line between Bramalea Go Station and Union Station operating every 30 minutes. Local: Current format where stops are made at Bloor and Weston Go Stations before reaching Pearson Airport Terminal 1/Union Station Express: Only stops at Pearson Airport Terminal 1 or Union Station with no local stops in-between Reason for the two branch system is due to overcrowding between those who disembark at location stations and those going direct to the airport. Final comments: I do prefer the express option getting directly to the airport/Union Station without needing to go through the local stations. Though it will be interesting how this format will workout. EDIT: The proposed change between having the local and express setup is cancelled and the Ford government is working to have this amendment made. Info will still remain up for record keeping, but this change will not proceed as planned.- 583 replies
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Go Transit has posted their service changes. Not a full list, but more of the noticeable ones: Route 18K will be renamed Route 11. 96Z will service Toronto Zoo along with 47W and 52X will service Canada's Wonderland on weekends only from May 4th until August 25th. Lakeshore West and East Lines: Lakeshore West will operate every 15 minutes on weekends between Oakville Go Station and Union Station Lakeshore East between Union Station and Durham College Oshawa Go will operate every 15 minutes Departing from Union Station, the span of hours for 15 minute service along both lines is between 3 PM until 11 PM, then it is reduced to 30 minute service until the final trip of the service day. Milton Line: New morning departure at 6:43 AM making all stops to Union arriving at 7:48 AM New afternoon departure at 4:10 PM from Union arriving in Milton at 5:12 PM Eastbound departures depart a minute earlier between Milton Go Station and Dixie Go Station to account for door restrictions at Kipling Go Station Stouvfille Line: Late evening train service restored 7 days/week Bus service to replace train trips directly to Union Station will instead terminate to connect between bus and train transfers Markham Go Station will have the non-accessible side doors close a minute early with the accessible side closing 30 seconds early similar to departure stations such as Union Kitchener Line: 30 minute service between Bramalea Go Station and Union Station to be introduced during weekday mid-day and evening
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Bradford West Gwillimbury Transit
GTAmissions1 replied to dj.surf.lfs's topic in Greater Toronto Area
Bradford West Gwillimbury is doing a survey regarding the transit system overhaul along with a draft plan. https://www.bradfordtoday.ca/local-news/residents-on-board-with-bradfords-fabulous-draft-transit-plan-8583314#google_vignette I have also attached some visuals for reference on the proposed changes so that you don't have to go through the survey. Introducing specialized transit for those that have mobility issues. Right now, only Linx+ provides specialized transit, but in a limited capacity for Bradford. On-demand coverage area with two proposals: Full covering the entire area Limited focusing on the urban area along with Simcoe County Road 88 and Bond Head Regarding the three network proposals, here is the breakdown: Network One: Similar to the current system today Network Two: Similar to Network 1, but with higher frequencies Network Three: Very different from today with six routes This is along with the proposal of the 2031 hours of service being proposed to this structure: Weekdays: 5:30 AM until 1 AM the next day Saturday: 6 AM until 1 AM the next day Sunday/Holiday: 7 AM until 12 AM the next day The cost breakdown for new and improved transit if approved: Fixed-route service: $2 million Specialized and on-demand service: $1.9 million Employment shuttle: $75,000 Final comments: Right now, the span of hours currently break down like this: Route 1: Weekdays from 7:03 AM to 6:33 AM from the start point Saturday from 9 AM to 5 PM Frequency is every 30 minutes in all time periods Route 2: Weekdays from 6:08 AM to 6:08 PM Saturday from 9 AM to 4 PM Frequency is every 60 minutes in all time periods Route 2A: Weekdays only from 6:57 AM to 3:57 PM No weekend service Frequency is every 60 minutes in all time periods Bradford West Gwillimbury Transit does not offer service on Sunday currently. I think the proposal of expanding service hours well beyond the current structure is nice at the same time coming at a cost. I think it is worthwhile to spend more money to better meet the needs of people who aren't fixed to 9 to 5 or on a commuting schedule. -
I feel you on that one especially since you figure out if you want to take an alternative where you need to go if available or wait the 60 minutes for the next departure. Having to wait around somewhere or keeping occupied until the next departure to hopefully not miss the next one.
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Transit-On-Demand hours effective May 1/24: NOTE: No fare is required for the entire month of May to assist with the transition to transit-on-demand ending on June 2nd. Phase 1 is scheduled for June 2nd which will require fare for transit-on-demand zones with Routes 2, 7 and 8 still retained until Phase 2 when they will be changed. Zone A Hours Weekday: 5:30am–11:30pm Saturday: 7:30am–11:30pm Sunday: 9am–10:30pm Zone B Hours: Weekday: 5:30am–12am Saturday: 7:30am–12am Sunday: 9am–10pm Zone C Hours: Weekday: 5:30am–11:30pm Saturday: 7am–11:30pm Sunday: 9:30am–9:30pm Zone D Hours: Weekday: 5:30am–12:30am Saturday: 6:30am–12am Sunday: 8:30am–9:30pm Zone G Hours: Weekday: 5:30am–12am Saturday: 6:30am–12am Sunday: 8:30am–10pm I have attached the maps which Phase 1 would be the one happening on May 1st with some overlap with conventional routes. Trying to explain the zones would be too difficult without a visual aid to show where the coverage area is. Phase 2 date is still to be confirmed or TBC for short. This hinges on when the Barrie Allandale Transit Terminal opens. Final comments: No schedules posted for the conventional routes yet. I expect sometime next month. Once the info is available, I will be sure to share here. Transit-on-demand will definitely be a major shift because pre-planning is required needing to accommodate flexibility if other passengers are booking at the same time. Since there is no transit schedule, just hours of operations. To better match demand since some sections don't have a lot of ridership compared to other sections that can generate a lot of corridor demand like Bayfield or Johnson Street. One example: Zone B services St. Mary's Seniors Residence on Amelia Street which a regular conventional bus cannot reach the front door compared to a specialized transit vehicle which has more mobility to accommodate. It is a big adjustment for those that are used to fixed conventional service. At the same time, the overlap in May is intended to help ease the transition along with no fare required to help better understand transit-on-demand. New-Transit-Network_Phase-1-and-2-Network-Maps.pdf
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I forgot to post this earlier, Ontario Northland stop has been relocated from Knights Inn on West Street South to the Orillia Public Library downtown effective March 2024. This is part of a six month pilot project to determine workability and effectiveness. The pilot project ends in August 2024. Which could be extended beyond that date. For those departing/arriving in Orillia via Ontario Northland, the transit fare is free as long as the departure/destination says Orillia-Transit on the ticket. The free fare agreement doesn't apply if the ticketed stop is Orillia-Georgian College. Final comments: I know when Ontario Northland used to stop at 150 Front Street South, it was around a 15 minute walk from the transit terminal. Of course, once that site no longer was available, the stop was relocated to Knights Inn on West Street South which was a barrier because of timing plus needing to pay transit fare taking South bus (South A/South B). Relocating to Orillia Public Library is a smart decision and hope it is made permanent along with the free fare built into the ticket. It is more central and easier access along with a warm place to wait during the winter season. Orillia Public Library can also handle selling Ontario Northland tickets for those that are unable to buy a ticket online or don't have a credit card available. Though, I think the City of Orillia could have done a better job marketing since it isn't mentioned on their website or Ontario Northland. Instead, the only info came from the weekly newsletter which not everyone is subscribed to. Since I don't think there is much awareness on the program which would save the $3 cash fare. City of Orillia is promoting transit a lot more this year with the free transit days along with fare concessions.
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I forgot to post this earlier, Ontario Northland stop has been relocated from Knights Inn on West Street South to the Orillia Public Library downtown effective March 2024. This is part of a six month pilot project to determine workability and effectiveness ending in August 2024. This is along with how Orillia Public Library is able to sell Ontario Northland tickets for those that are unable to purchase a ticket online or don't have a credit card. For those departing/arriving in Orillia via Ontario Northland, the transit fare is free as long as the departure/destination says Orillia on the ticket on the day of the trip. Ontario Northland stop at Georgian College Orillia campus will still be maintained. Final comments: I think it is nice that for those connecting to Ontario Northland, at least the Orillia Public Library is available to wait and in a central location. Instead of having to pay fare to connect to Ontario Northland. Last time I took Ontario Northland from Orillia was years ago missing the last Simcoe County Linx bus departure and back when the stop was on Front Street South.
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A Quebec small town which lost their only bank branch five years ago is losing the only bank machine next month (May 20/24). The next closest bank branch and machine being another half hour away. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/only-atm-in-luskville-que-set-to-close-end-of-may-1.6843574 Final comments: I know I was reading how bank branches in small towns are being closed down. How Scotiabank closed around 18 branches in Atlantic Canada mostly in small towns due to low demand and high overhead costs (staffing, maintenance or rent of the building, utilities, etc) in some cases, the only bank in the town. Local leaders trying to fight the decision on removing banking services. Especially for businesses that need to get change or bills to handle their floats at the register. Plus the cost of servicing one ATM for repairs or refill the float to accommodate cash withdrawals also adds to the issue. Noticing that most of the standalone bank machines have been removed from certain places citing security issues/concerns. At the same time, I noticed some businesses are simply accommodating debit and credit to handle less cash transactions that only used to accept cash. Especially with the cost of handling cash such as bank deposits and getting change from the local branch. Versus using debit or credit, it is an electronic funds transfer with a deduction on the interchange fee for the swipe or tap of a card. This is along with the risk of robberies or counterfeit bills, some businesses don't want to deal with those kinds of risks. Even with the shift to digital payments, there are some people who still prefer paying with cash versus plastic.
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O-Train Line 1 | The Confederation Line
GTAmissions1 replied to octranspobusfreak's topic in National Capital Region
Stage 2 O-Train tunnel between Dominion and Lincoln Fields Station is 85 percent complete. Adding additional overnight shifts to maintain the schedule. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/stage-2-o-train-extension-tunnel-near-completion-1.6844614 Final comments: The goal is to have the works such as the overhead catenary system along with signals installed by the end of 2025. Testing in 2026. -
Looking at the schedules during the Barrie Line closure between Rutherford and Union Station. Here are some interesting branches to note: 68F: Barrie Bus Terminal/Highway 407 Station via Highway 400 (1 hour and 5 minutes) 68G: Barrie Bus Terminal/Highway 407 Station servicing all stations on the corridor (2 hours and 25 minutes) 68F operates at 6:55 AM and 68G operates at 7 AM from the Barrie Bus Terminal heading south towards Highway 407 Station. Northbound, the departures for 68F and 68G towards the Barrie Bus Terminal are 9 PM and 9:05 PM from Highway 407 Station. Route 65, here are the special branches for the closure: 65D: Rutherford Go/Highway 407 Station 65G: Highway 407/Aurora Go servicing local stops along with King City 65H: Highway 407/Aurora Go direct via Highway 407/404 This weekend's Barrie Line closure south of Rutherford Station is tied to signal upgrade construction. Going by Rutherford over on March 30th, the second platform has already been finished, but not in use currently. Working on Maple next for the double platform.
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Misc. OC Transpo & STO Questions & Discussion
GTAmissions1 replied to SMS's topic in National Capital Region
I remember when Route 96: Kanata/Stittsville via downtown (the current Route 61 today) operated with 40 ft regular buses with a frequency bump of every 10 minutes on weekends/holidays back in 2012/2013. To better match ridership demand versus operating articulated buses every 15 minutes and of course, there were complaints about buses reaching capacity when servicing downtown. Seeing some passengers turned away at Bayshore Station which if the person waiting wanted to go beyond Terry Fox Station, the strategy would be to take any 96 Kanata/Terry Fox to the final stop, then board a 96 Stittsville Main to reach the final destination to be accommodated. Trying to wait for a 96 Stittsville Main where the higher passenger volume on a 30 minute frequency definitely would be waiting a long time. Even if the frequency is 10 minutes with a shorter bus, I personally would take the 15 minute frequency if I know that there will be capacity on-board to handle than wait for the next departure or two to be accommodated. -
No new opening date confirmed. Other than a window of time. Needing to ramp up testing of the system along with training of operators. To ensure that there is high reliability before opening to the public for revenue service. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/oc-transpo-boss-will-not-commit-to-trillium-line-opening-date-1.6842852 Final comments: Even if staff are saying trial testing can start in May and can open around late June/early July depending on the trial testing and staffing logistics, I still would keep my expectations low on timelines until they can confirm something concrete.
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GOA transit news, info etc
GTAmissions1 replied to Canadian National's topic in National Capital Region
OC Transpo ridership and fare revenue continues to miss projections: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/oc-transpo-misses-ridership-targets-in-first-2-months-of-2024-1.6842748 In the same article, there were an average of 104 undelivered trips out of 8,000 weekday trips. The three most cancelled routes are: Route 6: 131 trips cancelled Line 2 replacement: 129 trips cancelled Route 12: 110 trips cancelled 43 percent of trips cancelled were due to no operator available. 32 percent of trips were cancelled due to traffic conditions requiring an adjustment. Final comments: With fare capping on credit cards to not charge more than a day pass ($11.75) or adult monthly pass ($128.75), there is simply no need to purchase a monthly pass anymore. I know the discussions regarding how some people can't afford the high upfront payment or unsure if they can reach the break-even point to make the cost back. -
Georgian College students voted to extend the U-Pass for another five years. It was extended for another year (August 2025) to give time for the referendum vote to occur. Now it is extended until August 2030 with an option for an additional two years if exercised. https://www.barrie.ca/government/news-notices/media-releases/georgian-college-and-barrie-transit-extend-u-pass-program?fbclid=IwAR0De8oFIk-j_WwIhLEAmhbX-j21Ba_cTM6TEg5D6XDR7SpUeIao1ny7dcE_aem_AbGtTUQE1EhDkWi8xxAMoTBHg7IHBxihuDFR14K7VA2596Kta8yDNW1t1zf1v10wQBc9YGiPw-wXnKAz0pV8yqUO Final comments: The vote was 68.3 percent in-favour of the U-Pass. I remember when it was first put to a vote in November 2015, it was rejected with 59 percent of the vote. At the same time, U-pass holders generate 45 percent of the total ridership. The first contract started in September 2018 with a five year term along with a possibility of an extension of two one year terms. That one was set to expire in August 2025 if the referendum did not pass.
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Service changes effective April 28th: Route 8: Kennedy Route and frequency adjustments noted below: Extended to provide new service along Steeles Avenue between Old Kennedy Road and Kennedy Road. Trips are not scheduled to connect with GO trains at Milliken GO station. Weekday frequency: Midday – approximately every 28 minutes Evening – approximately every 25 minutes First and last trips will be adjusted Saturday frequency: Morning – approximately every 28 minutes Afternoon – approximately every 28 minutes Evening – approximately every 28 minutes Last trips will be adjusted Sunday/Holiday frequency: Morning – approximately every 27 minutes Afternoon – approximately every 27 minutes Evening – approximately every 51 to 63 minutes First and last trips will be adjusted Route 9: 9th Line Rebranded as Route 9: Ninth Line Route 10: Woodbridge Will operate during weekday rush hours Route will be restructured to operate along Chancellor Drive Service will be discontinued from Langstaff Road and Ansley Grove Road Frequency will be every 40 minutes during rush hours Route 16: 16th Avenue Sunday/holiday schedules will be adjusted noted below: Morning – approximately every 55 minutes Afternoon – approximately every 58 minutes Evening – approximately every 52 minutes First and last trips will be adjusted Route 20: Jane Rush hour frequency adjusted noted below: Afternoon rush hours – approximately every 17 to 18 minutes Route 24: Woodbine Departure times shifting to avoid conflict at Don Mills Station Service hours extension noted below Weekdays: Late evening service will be extended until approximately 12 a.m. with a 23-minute frequency Last trips will be adjusted Saturday: Late evening service will be extended until approximately 12 a.m. with a 34-minute frequency Midday – approximately every 37 minutes First and last trips will be adjusted Sundays/Holidays: Late evening service will be extended until approximately 10 p.m. with a 35-minute frequency Last trips will be adjusted Route 33: Wellington Frequency adjustment noted below: Frequency will be adjusted, approximately every 37 to 41 minutes. First and last trips will be adjusted Route 55: Davis Drive Renamed to Route 55 Davis Route 80: Elgin Mills Saturday frequency adjustment noted below: Morning and afternoon – approximately every 58 minutes Evening – approximately every 53 minutes First and last trips will be adjusted Route 88: Bathurst Saturday frequency adjustment noted below: Frequency will be adjusted, approximately every 28 minutes. First and last trips will be adjusted Route 90 Leslie: Hours of service extended for Saturday and Sunday noted below Saturday: Late evening service will be extended until approximately 12 a.m. with a 41-minute frequency Last trips will be adjusted Sunday: Late evening service will be extended until approximately 10 p.m. with a 40-minute frequency Last trips will be adjusted Route 91B: Bayview Will service platform 7 (stop 4468) instead of platform 5 (stop 4453) at Richmond Hill Centre Terminal Route 99: Yonge Southbound trip from Bernard Terminal (stop 4198) will depart at 6:57 a.m. instead of 6:52 a.m Route 98/99: Yonge Route 98/99 – Yonge will be renamed to Route 98/99 – Yonge (Late Night) Route 300: Business Express Schedules will be adjusted Route 320: Jane Express Will service the stops at Jane Street/Pennsylvania Avenue (northbound stop 6346 and southbound stop 3818) and Jane Street/Langstaff Road (northbound stop 6349 and southbound stop 6351), to accommodate passenger demand in the area Schedules will be adjusted to match Canada’s Wonderland and Vaughan Mills Mall’s business hours. Weekday frequency: 14 minutes from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. 12 minutes from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. 14 minutes from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. 12 minutes from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m. First and last trips will be adjusted Saturday frequency: 12 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 18 minutes from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. 12 minutes from 8 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. First and last trips will be adjusted. Sunday frequency: On Sundays and Monday, May 20 (Victoria Day), frequency will be adjusted as follows: 12 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 18 minutes from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. 12 minutes from 7 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. First and last trips will be adjusted On Sunday, May 19 and Sunday, June 23, frequency will be adjusted as follows: 12 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 18 minutes from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. 12 minutes from 7 p.m. to 12 a.m. First and last trips will be adjusted Note: On Fridays from Friday, May 31 to Friday, June 28, and during the last week of June from Monday, June 24 to Thursday June 27, Canada’s Wonderland will be open from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. and Vaughan Mills Mall will be open from 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. Route 320 evening schedules will not be extended. Travellers may use Route 20 on these dates. Route 360: Vaughan Mills/Wonderland Will service platform 11 (stop 7366) at Major Mackenzie West Terminal, instead of platform 12 (stop 7367). Schedules will be adjusted to match Canada’s Wonderland and Vaughan Mills Mall’s business hours. Weekday service will continue be suspended until summer 2024. Saturday frequency: 28 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 40 minutes from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. 30 minutes from 8 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. First and last trips will be adjusted On Sundays and Monday, May 20 (Victoria Day), frequency will be adjusted as follows: 26 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 36 minutes from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. 28 minutes from 7 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. First and last trips will be adjusted On Sunday, May 19 and Sunday, June 23, frequency will be adjusted as follows: 26 minutes from 8:30 a.m. to 11 a.m. 36 minutes from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. 28 minutes from 7 p.m. to 12 a.m. First and last trips will be adjusted Route 401: Brother André School Special via Box Grove will be renamed to Route 401: St. Brother André School Special via Box Grove. Route 403: Brother André School Special will be renamed to Route 403: St. Brother André School Special. Route 406: Markham District School Special will be renamed to Route 406: Markham School Special via Bur Oak. Route 413: St. Robert School Special will be renamed to Route 413: St. Robert School Special via John. Route 414: St Katharine Drexel District School Special Stop 6936 at Hoover Park Drive/York Durham Line will be added to the Route 414 routing in the morning Route 415: Stouffville District High School Special Stop 6936 at Hoover Park Drive/York Durham Line will be relocated 50 metres west and reinstated on Route 415 routing in the afternoon Route 416: Markham District School Special via Riverwalk and Ninth Line will be renamed to Route 416: Markham District School Special via Ninth Line Route 425: Huron Heights School Special via Holland Landing will be renamed to Route 425: Huron Heights School Special Route 427: Sacred Heart School Special via Newmarket High School will be renamed to Route 427: Sacred Heart School Special via Stonehaven Route 445: St. Robert School Special to Bernard Terminal will be renamed to Route 445: St. Robert School Special via Spadina Route 461: Emily Carr School Special will be renamed to 461: Emily Carr School Special via Royalpark Route 462: Maple Special Schedules will be adjusted. The morning and afternoon trip departure times will be maintained Route 466: Tommy Douglas School Special will be renamed to Route 466: Tommy Douglas School Special via Fossil Hill Route 467: Tommy Douglas School Special via St. Jean de Brebeuf will be renamed to Route 467: Tommy Douglas School Special via Cityview Route 470: Westmount Collegiate School Special via Thornhill Woods will be renamed to Route 470: Westmount School Special Route 471: Stephen Lewis School Special via Langstaff Secondary will be renamed to Route 471: Stephen Lewis School Special via Ten Oaks On-Request Gormley New service: Travellers may use On-Request Gormley to travel from any address in the service area (see map) and the following three locations, or vice versa: Richmond Green Public Library (front door) – customers may use their transfer on Route 90 – Leslie Honda Boulevard (stop 6166) – customers may use their transfer on Route 24 - Woodbine Gormley GO Station (passenger pick-up and drop-off area) Service hours: Monday to Friday 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. On-Request Woodbridge Weekdays: With the introduction of Route 10 – Woodbridge during weekday rush hours, On-Request Woodbridge will operate between 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. (instead of 8 a.m. to 7:45 p.m.). Service will be adjusted to operate along Chancellor Drive and service will be discontinued from Langstaff Road and Ansley Grove Road.
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Looking at the itinerary, it will stop at Terminal 1 where the P4 column is for out of town buses located at Gate P. The stop in Barrie is at the Tim Hortons parking lot at 354 Bayfield Street. Though the big challenge is that the parking lot is pretty small and trying to turn left from Bayfield Street would be a complete nightmare. Unless they are going to change it to somewhere in the Bayfield Mall parking lot where it is more designed to handle larger vehicles. I think it will be a logistical nightmare trying to get a large vehicle out of a small parking lot. Most likely the reason why the downtown transit terminal wasn't chosen is because it is too far away from Highway 400 along with no available bus platforms. Go Transit and Ontario Northland already assigned platforms and Mary Street is unavailable because of buses on stand-by parked most of the time in case they need to cover a trip or two. Since it would simply use the off-ramp on Bayfield Street, drop off passengers and then loop back onto Highway 400 to continue further north. Final comments: Will be interesting how it works out. Especially since the trip is around 5 hours depending on traffic conditions. Especially when Ontario Northland does offer two trips that require a transfer in North Bay while three are direct trips to Sudbury without changing vehicles. Ontario Northland being more well known and a loyal clientele. Here are the departures noted below for Flixbus: From Toronto Union Station: 8:30 PM arriving in Sudbury at 1:30 PM. From Sudbury Ontario Northland Terminal: 2:30 PM arriving at Toronto Union Station at around 7:30 PM Also comparing prices. Flixbus charges $48 before the seat selection fee which would bump it up to $59. Ontario Northland charges around $91.02 including taxes for an adult ticket. At the same time, it is generating completion for the Toronto to Sudbury corridor.
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GOA transit news, info etc
GTAmissions1 replied to Canadian National's topic in National Capital Region
OC Transpo bus 8137 went into the ditch on Frank Kenny Road per this tweet attached: Final comments: Reminds me of the two double deckers in the 8000 series that ended up on their side a decade ago along Woodroffe near Fallowfield due to the open field. 8022 on December 21, 2012 and 8010 on April 12, 2013. -
It is nice to see a transit agency look at revamping their route network design. Focusing on the major corridors and hubs such as Oakville and Bronte Go Stations. This is along with revamping the marketing on route types broken down below: Frequent transit network or FTN: 15 minutes or better Primary: Approximately every 15 minutes Base: Approximately every 20 to 30 minutes On-Demand: As required Hopefully it works out as planned. Trying to overhaul transit routes not being easy without breaking something in the process trying to manage with funding and availability of resources.
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Especially since photo ID is pretty much essential. Some people either use their health card or a passport in-place of photo ID requirements. Of course, I don't recommend using a heath card or passport unless necessary. I don't carry around my passport unless travelling internationally. In the US, they do offer the passport card alongside the passport book. The passport card can be used at land borders at Canada and Mexico borders along with operating in-place of REAL ID requirements coming into effect next year. REAL ID means that state issued photo ID/driver's license meets the security requirements outlined by the Department of Homeland Security along with a special sticker affixed to indicate it is REAL ID compliant. You would think that Quebec would address the issue regarding the lack of alternative photo ID other than a health card for those who can't or don't drive. Especially when Quebec tends to do things a bit differently than the rest of Canada.
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GTAmissions1 replied to Canadian National's topic in National Capital Region
City of Gatineau is considering charging a $90/year license plate renewal fee to fund transit. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/gatineau-mulls-90-licence-plate-renewal-fee-to-fund-transit-1.7159511 Final comments: Quebec did grant additional powers to municipalities to generate additional revenues through alternative sources. Especially reading from this article, the fee would only be intended to cover lost revenue which if the fee was collected starting next year, it would generate $15 million dollars to offset losses. I know Montreal charges $59/year which goes into a fund to improve public transit. Which of course does add costs to those that require a vehicle for business purposes and can't always take public transit. Toronto did have the vehicle registration tax until it was eliminated which the fee was $60/year. There were attempts to bring it back, but for the purposes of supporting the TTC operations instead of general revenues for the City of Toronto, but that was rejected by city council of course. Regarding Gatineau additional fee on license plate renewal to fund transit, it goes up for debate/discussion next month before it goes to a vote in the future if it will proceed or be rejected. Especially with the cost of living today.