FlyerD901 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 The open side mirror is really extended. I know most TTC buses, they have that mirror more tucked in. And hopefully the rear is similar to the 3700 with the grill at the back. No decals on it yet. I hope TTC uses the 2000 numbers. I expect Arrow to get them first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 25 minutes ago, FlyerD901 said: No decals on it yet. I hope TTC uses the 2000 numbers. Someone mentioned they are being numbered in the 6000 series. I personally thought they would have used the 2000 series as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumiko Oumae Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: The open side mirror is really extended. I know most TTC buses, they have that mirror more tucked in. And hopefully the rear is similar to the 3700 with the grill at the back. No decals on it yet. I hope TTC uses the 2000 numbers. I expect Arrow to get them first. If Arrow gets them, this means all Nova hybrids and diesels are displaced? Birchmount can be also a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: The open side mirror is really extended. I know most TTC buses, they have that mirror more tucked in. And hopefully the rear is similar to the 3700 with the grill at the back. No decals on it yet. I hope TTC uses the 2000 numbers. I expect Arrow to get them first. the numbers have already been decided, 6000 - 6203 for new flyers and 6600 - 6735 for novas. the ttc really doesnt care about number conflicts with the line 6 lrvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1122 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Would that the numbers conflict with the Toronto Rockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 49 minutes ago, Tom1122 said: Would that the numbers conflict with the Toronto Rockets? yeah toronto rockets, line 5 trains and line 6 trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Kumiko Oumae said: If Arrow gets them, this means all Nova hybrids and diesels are displaced? Birchmount can be also a good choice. It's most likely Arrow and Birchmount will receive these buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 21 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said: It's most likely Arrow and Birchmount will receive these buses. i feel like if arrow gets the lfses orions will go to malvern and the remaining xe40s will go east and the new xe40s will be split between birchmount and eglinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 They can't just stuff one division with all ebuses. They are expanding MtD first with more ebus capacity so they'll likely get a bunch. Maybe not initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: It's most likely Arrow and Birchmount will receive these buses. Correction: Birchmount will get some of the XE40s which will move the 37xx they have back to Arrow. Arrow and Eglinton will receive some LFSe+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_oak Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, randall said: the numbers have already been decided, 6000 - 6203 for new flyers and 6600 - 6735 for novas. the ttc really doesnt care about number conflicts with the line 6 lrvs According to the original press release by NFI, their 60% share is for 186 buses, which implies a total order of 310 units - 186 New Flyer and 124 Nova. The numbering above indicates a total order of 340 units - 204 New Flyer and 136 Nova. Has the total order increased by 30 since the initial announcements in June 2023? If not, and the total is still 310, it would cast some doubt on the veracity of the number assignments shown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, doug_oak said: According to the original press release by NFI, their 60% share is for 186 buses, which implies a total order of 310 units - 186 New Flyer and 124 Nova. The numbering above indicates a total order of 340 units - 204 New Flyer and 136 Nova. Has the total order increased by 30 since the initial announcements in June 2023? If not, and the total is still 310, it would cast some doubt on the veracity of the number assignments shown. not sure, as far as ik this is information from the wiki and a page off the ttcs future bus orders 11 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: Correction: Birchmount will get some of the XE40s which will move the 37xx they have back to Arrow. Arrow and Eglinton will receive some LFSe+. anything on the orions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ. Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, randall said: not sure, as far as ik this is information from the wiki and a page off the ttcs future bus orders anything on the orions? Birchmount isn't getting any Orion's and never will remember the guy that said they are getting 2 80xx in February which some of you guys believed and that obviously never happened and never will either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 32 minutes ago, CJ. said: Birchmount isn't getting any Orion's and never will remember the guy that said they are getting 2 80xx in February which some of you guys believed and that obviously never happened and never will either im not talking about the orions going to birchmount, im just curious if there going anywhere else like mtd, malvern or queensway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUserofToronto Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Same interior as the 2018 XE40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTio Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, AUserofToronto said: Same interior as the 2018 XE40? Will have to see when it arrives. Unless TTC posted how they wanted the interior on the document when releasing the bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 3/23/2024 at 2:35 PM, bus_7246 said: 2 notable differences. The side fairings around the roofline adores to be higher, and the nighttime turning lights (black lines) were added to the drivers side. is this the only one built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 I have a feeling the new xe40s that go to birchmount will push lfs diesels to Queensway causing some NG diesels to retire. Hope that's not true cause the NG diesels have lots of life left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ6113PHEV5 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 10 hours ago, doug_oak said: According to the original press release by NFI, their 60% share is for 186 buses, which implies a total order of 310 units - 186 New Flyer and 124 Nova. The numbering above indicates a total order of 340 units - 204 New Flyer and 136 Nova. Has the total order increased by 30 since the initial announcements in June 2023? If not, and the total is still 310, it would cast some doubt on the veracity of the number assignments shown. The initial plan was to have 340 electric buses order which was far ago before the bid was decided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 16 minutes ago, Toro said: I have a feeling the new xe40s that go to birchmount will push lfs diesels to Queensway causing some NG diesels to retire. Hope that's not true cause the NG diesels have lots of life left. So Birchmount is receiving new buses but Queensway can’t? Arrow, Eglinton, Malvern, Mount Dennis, Wilson and brand new McNicoll have also gotten their share of new deliveries in recent years this is absolutely NOT fair. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 56 minutes ago, Genius101 said: So Birchmount is receiving new buses but Queensway can’t? Arrow, Eglinton, Malvern, Mount Dennis, Wilson and brand new McNicoll have also gotten their share of new deliveries in recent years this is absolutely NOT fair. Keep whining kid. That's right Queensway is not allow to receive new buses. Life is never fair. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 1 hour ago, Genius101 said: So Birchmount is receiving new buses but Queensway can’t? Arrow, Eglinton, Malvern, Mount Dennis, Wilson and brand new McNicoll have also gotten their share of new deliveries in recent years this is absolutely NOT fair. That's right. I've spoken to the supervisor at Queensway to ensure that Queensway may only get handmedowns because you like them : -) if Queensway got the new ebuses where did you expect them to plug it? In the employees backsides? Sheesh it's not rocket science 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Guys, stop engaging. The problem has been explained at length, over the course of 5 years. If he refuses to acknowledge the operational reasons behind his grievance, it is either because he has not logicked his way into his position and thus can't be logicked out of it, or he's trolling. Either way, it is really, really tiresome that every time he posts, his posts are followed by a long line of echoes saying the exact same thing day in day out. Some of us are actually interested in reading news about the bus fleet. For the love of God, stop engaging. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 13 hours ago, doug_oak said: According to the original press release by NFI, their 60% share is for 186 buses, which implies a total order of 310 units - 186 New Flyer and 124 Nova. The numbering above indicates a total order of 340 units - 204 New Flyer and 136 Nova. Has the total order increased by 30 since the initial announcements in June 2023? If not, and the total is still 310, it would cast some doubt on the veracity of the number assignments shown. The original RFP and contract award was for 310 buses. Once federal funding was secured, the contract was amended to add an additional 30 for a total of 340 buses between New Flyer and Nova. Nova's press release mentions that their contract is a base order of 124 with a potential for 12 more, bringing Nova's total to 136. That would mean 18 additional New Flyers were added bringing their total to 204. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Has any orders been placed for 60 ft Electrics? There was a xe60 demo at arrow at some point, not sure if that indicates anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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