INowKnowwhY Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Heard on the News last night that Ontario Northern(Coach Division) will be doing a Ottawa-Sudbury/Sudbury-Ottawa route. I'm not sure when its going to start but from the news report it stated: Sudbury to Ottawa Thursday Friday Saturday Ottawa-Sudbury Friday Saturday Monday no times where given so I'm not sure of the exact schedule(Times) Stop will be in Ottawa, Renfrew, Cobdum, Sudbury I'm not sure of any other stops? I thought Greyhound already had this route? Ottawa-Pembrooke-North Bay-Sudbury? Anyway it'll be interesting to see some "New Players" in the Ottawa area either then Greyhound(Inter-city) Greyhound doesn't even want their Northern Ontario runs, they also don't even care about western Canada. What Greyhound is more focused on is their Montreal-Ottawa, Ottawa-Kingston-Bellville-Toronto, Toronto-London-Windsor-Detroit-Chicago and Toronto-Niagara Falls-Buffalo-New York City corridors.They just want all express trips from one city to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Anyone know where the coaches will be stored / serviced while in Ottawa? Or will they have an agreement to use Greyhound facilities like they do in Sudbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Considering your other option is to arrive in Deep river or wherever at 2:00am i think this is a viable alternative. Unless you are just travelling from one end to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 here's the PDF of the Sudbury-North Bay-Pembroke-Ottawa schedule. Does it look to anyone else like ONTC are leaving the door open to extend the route to/from the Sault? http://www.ontarionorthland.ca/sites/default/files/mcs_sched_650_and_660_effjan21_2016.v3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flalex72 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 here's the PDF of the Sudbury-North Bay-Pembroke-Ottawa schedule. Does it look to anyone else like ONTC are leaving the door open to extend the route to/from the Sault? http://www.ontarionorthland.ca/sites/default/files/mcs_sched_650_and_660_effjan21_2016.v3.pdf My first thought was that they had scheduled it so the driver worked a minimum number of hours: Leave Sudbury as late as possible in the day, stay in Ottawa overnight, then leave first thing the next morning. This does happen to line up with an extension to the west, but it doesn't strike me as a primary concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Why does ONT charge much more per km than Greyhound? If it's subsidized then it should be cheaper... Not that you have many other options. It would be nice if you get a discount if you bought a ticket to or from Toronto to North bay and then on to somewhere between ottawa and North Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Why does ONT charge much more per km than Greyhound? If it's subsidized then it should be cheaper... Not that you have many other options. It would be nice if you get a discount if you bought a ticket to or from Toronto to North bay and then on to somewhere between ottawa and North Bay. You're assuming Greyhound have the same costs. Not only is Greyhound a massive organisation but routes in northern Ontario are long and thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I also wondered why the Express and Local Buses to Timmins and Sudbury depart around the same time? Would it not make sense to have staggered departure times through the day? Or is it so that if one bus is full, the passengers overflow to the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roeco Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 It will be interesting to see if this is just a one run thing for Ontario Northland or If you're gonna see them do a Sault Ste Marie to North Bay and Sudbury schedule.? Im sure the Demand from Ottawa to Sudbury is their as Both Greyhound schedules were over 50% capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfil Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Handy schedule allows smoother, shorter connections with other ONTC services (Toronto/North Bay/Toronto, Hearst/Sudbury/Hearst) and Maheux services (North Bay/Rouyn-Noranda), which was not the case with Greyhound ― it does not even bother stopping at the ONTC terminal in Sudbury. Expanding to Soo would place this line as the east-west backbone of ONTC, creating a comprenhensive network of regional transportation despite repeated cuts in the schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roeco Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 The run to Soo if they did it would not even have to be a daily service even...but would sure make a huge difference for the connections and easy to build a better clientele for a regional service... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Ontario Northland 5401 (2014 MCI D4505) has been retrofitted with the newer D-series headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Ontario Northland's 2016 order of coaches seems to now be in service. 5603 spotted yesterday evening at the Toronto Coach Terminal: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahrp24 Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Has Ontario Northland ever retired any Prevost X3-45s at all? I had a charter today with a X3-45 with AU coach tours and on the inside of the front door, there's a Ontario Northland customer and employee expectations notice decal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 52 minutes ago, noahrp24 said: Has Ontario Northland ever retired any Prevost X3-45s at all? I had a charter today with a X3-45 with AU coach tours and on the inside of the front door, there's a Ontario Northland customer and employee expectations notice decal. It might be possible that they have gotten rid of some of the ex-Orléans coaches (5334-5336), those were X3-45 coaches from 2007. If this is the case, sounds like they're now on a 10-year lifespan like their southern counterparts at GO Transit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRT Posted May 19, 2017 Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 Yes they sold 2 at Ritchie Bros Auctioneers last fall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 22 hours ago, noahrp24 said: Has Ontario Northland ever retired any Prevost X3-45s at all? I had a charter today with a X3-45 with AU coach tours and on the inside of the front door, there's a Ontario Northland customer and employee expectations notice decal. if you walk close enough to the window you may able to see the fainted fleet numbers. That's how I figured out the fleet number of its previous owner(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahrp24 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 13 hours ago, DRT said: Yes they sold 2 at Ritchie Bros Auctioneers last fall Ah that makes sense then. We had 2 X3-45s chartered yesterday from them (AU coach).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted May 22, 2017 Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 10:30 PM, noahrp24 said: Ah that makes sense then. We had 2 X3-45s chartered yesterday from them (AU coach).. Is au coach that one the runs shuttle to and from blue mountain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Ontario Northland will be operating on a trial basis a CNG fueled coach provided by MCI. From photos on Facebook, it looks like it is a D4500 numbered 13895. http://www.ontarionorthland.ca/en/news/ontario-northland-first-intercity-motor-coach-operator-canada-pilot-compressed-natural-gas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Are CNG buses allowed into York Dale terminal? According to the website the range is about 700km on one tank. How would refiling work while on route? I'm sure they would have covered those logistical issues......right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 maybe the cng bus is restricted to routes where CNG refilling stations are easy to access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 23 hours ago, Shaun said: According to the website the range is about 700km on one tank. Assign it to the North Bay local only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 You would still need to fill up in Toronto before heading home. I wonder if there is a mobile CNG filling service like there is for diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Shaun said: You would still need to fill up in Toronto before heading home. I wonder if there is a mobile CNG filling service like there is for diesel. CNG fueling in Toronto would not be an issue. North Bay would be more of a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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