smallspy Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 15 hours ago, ttc rider said: ...which is precisely why I said that it is the first car to leave the property for repairs (other than 4401). I am well aware that both 4400 and 4402 were returned to Bombardier, but that was for modifications to bring them to production specs - totally different situation. Car 4466 was damaged during transport, as has been discussed here at length - again, nothing to do with the repairs being carried out in QC. So yes, with 4400 off the property now and 4401 gone since May, two cars have been sent back for repairs (with 65 more to go, if the info that 67 cars need to be worked on is correct). For this specific set of repairs - being the frames needing additional welding and support - sure. But to leave for "repairs", as a wide-ranging sweeping statement of work necessary to be done? No. Really, it's just semantics. But it goes to show you that the words used have meaning. You know what you're talking about, but anyone else floating around here who didn't know the specifics of the situation may not, and assumed that no other cars had left the property before other than 4401. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 3:01 PM, smallspy said: First car to leave the property other than 4401? Not quite: This is 4400's second trip away from the TTC. And 4402 has also left and come back. And then there's 4466.... Have 4471 and 4478 been shipped to the USA yet? Gosh, a lot of travelling for some of these cars. I can't think examples over the years of non-retired TTC-owned vehicles leaving town. Did the 1980 loan of CLRVs to Boston use TTC-owned vehicles, or were they still the property of UTDC at the time? Were cars shipped out of town for repairs historically? The only thing close that jumps to mind is the 1980s rebuild of PCC 4601 (aka 4512) in Kingston. (though Bombardier still owns 4401 AFAIK - and 4400/4402 when they were shipped to Ottawa and Thunder Bay) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Looks like 4496 is ready to enter service on Tuesday, as it now sitting on track 4 in the yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 4496 Left the yard at 5:05 as a 510 (SQBM) After being here 15 days 4497 is eastbound on King St W after being on 509 and out in Long Branch. I guess its heading to the service bay and has put in at least 40 plus hours of testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 21 hours ago, nfitz said: Have 4471 and 4478 been shipped to the USA yet? Gosh, a lot of travelling for some of these cars. I can't think examples over the years of non-retired TTC-owned vehicles leaving town. Did the 1980 loan of CLRVs to Boston use TTC-owned vehicles, or were they still the property of UTDC at the time? Were cars shipped out of town for repairs historically? The only thing close that jumps to mind is the 1980s rebuild of PCC 4601 (aka 4512) in Kingston. (though Bombardier still owns 4401 AFAIK - and 4400/4402 when they were shipped to Ottawa and Thunder Bay) There've been a number of vehicles over the years, but certainly not many by any stretch of the word. As far as I know, the three CLRVs that ran in Boston had already been accepted by the TTC and run in service before getting shipped out. And other than 4601, I can't think of any other streetcars that would have been shipped away - the TTC's non-standard track gauge made it tricky (although not impossible), and they used to have the capacity to basically build a streetcar from scratch if damaged. Now, for other vehicles, there were two trolley buses that were used as demonstrators - 9213 to Hamilton and another who's number I can't find to Boston. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 We should be seeing 4498 tracking soon. Has there been any word of 4499 being put out for pickup? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 4499 has been spotted in Toronto, not on TTC property 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38 Highland Creek Posted September 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 14 hours ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said: 4499 has been spotted in Toronto, not on TTC property Yeah, I saw it near the CPRail Toronto Yard yesterday. It was on a railcar but I couldn't get a glimpse of that fleet number. Maybe 4500 will be coming in late September or early October. In which case, Leslie Barns will be full after it arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 The next car better be ready to ship by now or they'll never make the schedule. I don't think we'll have to wait long to witness it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: The next car better be ready to ship by now or they'll never make the schedule. I don't think we'll have to wait long to witness it. The schedule in the TTC report is only to have 15 cars enter service during the third quarter. 14 cars have already entered service (from 4483 through 4496), so they should achieve the Q3 target easily. And possibly even catch up on the 3 they are behind from Q1 and Q2. Though the 21--cars in service for Q4 is going to be an ambitious target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityflyer Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Isn't the 2nd plant going to start producing and delivering by Q4 of this year? Or did I get my dates wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Car 4499 is being offloaded at Hillcrest this morning (i.e. Thu, Sep. 13). Car 4449 has just arrived at the loading dock for the pull-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 9 hours ago, 38 Highland Creek said: Yeah, I saw it near the CPRail Toronto Yard yesterday. It was on a railcar but I couldn't get a glimpse of that fleet number. Maybe 4500 will be coming in late September or early October. In which case, Leslie Barns will be full after it arrives. Not true. Leslie will be busy, but still have space to move around. 120 is what I assume will be the closer end of max allocation allowance at Leslie (that’s tight). 100 in the yard & 20-25 max in the building, with 2 track still functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, bus_7246 said: Not true. Leslie will be busy, but still have space to move around. 120 is what I assume will be the closer end of max allocation allowance at Leslie (that’s tight). 100 in the yard & 20-25 max in the building, with 2 track still functional. I haven't peered in lately, but there seemed to be a fair number of CLRVs and ALRVs parked there at one point. Though not seeing much on the tracker - only 4078 for sure (perhaps 4001). Gosh, Russell must be packed at night! When does Roncs reopen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum118 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 59 minutes ago, nfitz said: I haven't peered in lately, but there seemed to be a fair number of CLRVs and ALRVs parked there at one point. Though not seeing much on the tracker - only 4078 for sure (perhaps 4001). Gosh, Russell must be packed at night! When does Roncs reopen? The sign said 2020, but parts could be open late 2019 off hand. 4498 is tracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 hours ago, ttc rider said: Car 4499 is being offloaded at Hillcrest this morning (i.e. Thu, Sep. 13). Car 4449 has just arrived at the loading dock for the pull-off. If all goes well we can expect it to leave Hillcrest for Leslie around 3pm +/- 30 minutes. 3 hours ago, bus_7246 said: Not true. Leslie will be busy, but still have space to move around. 120 is what I assume will be the closer end of max allocation allowance at Leslie (that’s tight). 100 in the yard & 20-25 max in the building, with 2 track still functional. The old fleet plan I saw gave 130 as the number for Leslie. Roncesvalles had 64 and Russell had 70 for a total of 264. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 hours ago, nfitz said: I haven't peered in lately, but there seemed to be a fair number of CLRVs and ALRVs parked there at one point. Though not seeing much on the tracker - only 4078 for sure (perhaps 4001). Gosh, Russell must be packed at night! When does Roncs reopen? 4201, 4209, 4223, 4235 & 4239 lay inactive in the yard. 4471 & 4478 are also stripped and inactive in the yard. 4246 & 4232 are the only mobile ALRVs at Leslie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, bus_7246 said: 4201, 4209, 4223, 4235 & 4239 lay inactive in the yard. 4471 & 4478 are also stripped and inactive in the yard. 4246 & 4232 are the only mobile ALRVs at Leslie. 4471 and 4478? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, TTC Guy said: 4471 and 4478? Did you forget there is a search function on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, TTC Guy said: 4471 and 4478? The flood-damaged cars from the King Street subway near Atlantic Avenue flooding. They announced they are being shipped to a New York facility for repairs. 5 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said: Did you forget there is a search function on this forum? Did you forget to answer the question? Why the rudeness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, nfitz said: The flood-damaged cars from the King Street subway near Atlantic Avenue flooding. They announced they are being shipped to a New York facility for repairs. Did you forget to answer the question? Why the rudeness? I apologize for my rudeness. I hope to promote to use of the search function which would help to answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: Did you forget there is a search function on this forum? 30 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said: I apologize for my rudeness. I hope to promote to use of the search function which would help to answer the question. No, It’s my fault I didn’t check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttc rider Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 hours ago, WoodbineSecondExit said: If all goes well we can expect it to leave Hillcrest for Leslie around 3pm +/- 30 minutes. Apparently, not everything went well. Car 4499 was still at Hillcrest one hour ago. Car 4449, which was used for the pull-off this morning, is tracking there as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if 4499 requires towing to Leslie. Can anyone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodbineSecondExit Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 4449 is heading east on Queen @ Don River at the moment. If someone is nearby they could run out and take a peek and see if it's towing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 hours ago, nfitz said: I haven't peered in lately, but there seemed to be a fair number of CLRVs and ALRVs parked there at one point. Though not seeing much on the tracker - only 4078 for sure (perhaps 4001). Gosh, Russell must be packed at night! When does Roncs reopen? Presumably the option of parking some cars at the Ex Loop is still available also? Perhaps the C/A decommissioning function could be relocated to free up tracks currently occupied, were things to get really clogged/Roncesvalles slips behind schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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