8792 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 3:51 PM, ONQCBusFan said: We know the video was taken sometime between 1982 to 1986 because the GM Artics only ran for OC Transpo for that long. I know these GM artics were a trial sponsored by the Government of Ontario, but I wonder what OC's rationale for not keeping them beyond 4 years was given the legendary service of the New Look fleet? I wonder whether GM would have built more units beyond the initial 60 some OC, the TTC and Mississauga were given? Instead both OC and the TTC opted for the Hungarian Ikaruses, which we all know ended up being pieces of junk, yet Mississauga kept their GM artics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have it on reasonably good authority from the mechanics that preceded me, that the legendary reliability of the new look didn’t particularly translate to the GM artic. In toronto anyway, they were happy to see them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 hours ago, tomsbuspage said: I remember when 9751 was in service, and I got to ride it once. I was mainly used on low-ridership routes such as 123 and 147, and it was eventually replaced by cutaways such as 9750, 9899 and 2601. It was listed for sale on the CUTA classifieds in 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010713204216/http://www.cutaactu.ca:80/OCTranspoBusAd.htm), but it was still on OC Transpo property in May 2002 when I took these two very-low-quality photos of the bus. There's a thread discussing the bus here: https://cptdb.ca/topic/754-oc-9751/ Haha, it’s funny how quickly that thread got off topic, nevertheless, thank you. It seems like it was, but was it only the one bought by OC Transpo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted January 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, Charlie said: Haha, it’s funny how quickly that thread got off topic, nevertheless, thank you. It seems like it was, but was it only the one bought by OC Transpo? Yes, although OC Transpo demoed an EZ-Rider Max in 2008. Apparently, that didn't lead to anything either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarus8737 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 4:43 PM, Bus_Medic said: I have it on reasonably good authority from the mechanics that preceded me, that the legendary reliability of the new look didn’t particularly translate to the GM artic. In toronto anyway, they were happy to see them go. Indeed. They were extremely hard on fuel and they were downright dangerous in the snow (on grades especially). They were always pulled off the road during snow storms. The whole 8222 project was a flop. That bus was nearly impossible to keep in revenue service from day to day due to maintenance issues. The Orion-Ikaruses certainly had many issues as well but they were a better performing bus overall than the GM 60's. The Ontario government forced the Ikaruses on Ottawa and Toronto since Orion was an Ontario crown corporation at that time and the gov't was giving a large subsidy for bus purchases. Despite that, OCT had given the 1986/87 60 foot bus order to Volvo but they pulled out of the NA bus market. OC had also tested Vanhool and Neoplan artics but (probably under gov't of Ontario pressure) wound up buying more Ikaruses. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Toronto demo’d The Van Hool also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I assume the old AG300 was tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC T6H-5307N 2252 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 2018-01-22 at 4:43 PM, Bus_Medic said: In toronto anyway, they were happy to see them go. After the artics (III) left T.O the crowding begin and service increases. While OC chose D60LFs and TTC zero. I could imagine in a alternative timeline, ttc would have D60HF and D60LFs though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8792 Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 1:06 PM, tomsbuspage said: I remember when 9751 was in service, and I got to ride it once. I was mainly used on low-ridership routes such as 123 and 147, and it was eventually replaced by cutaways such as 9750, 9899 and 2601. It was listed for sale on the CUTA classifieds in 2001 (http://web.archive.org/web/20010713204216/http://www.cutaactu.ca:80/OCTranspoBusAd.htm), but it was still on OC Transpo property in May 2002 when I took these two very-low-quality photos of the bus. There's a thread discussing the bus here: https://cptdb.ca/topic/754-oc-9751/ I only ever spotted 9751 with my own eyes once and that was for about all of 10 seconds. I was driving northbound on Bank waiting at the light at Johnston when it came southbound down during onto Johnston on what is now old route #1 / current route #6. 2 hours ago, ikarus8737 said: Indeed. They were extremely hard on fuel and they were downright dangerous in the snow (on grades especially). They were always pulled off the road during snow storms. The whole 8222 project was a flop. That bus was nearly impossible to keep in revenue service from day to day due to maintenance issues. The Orion-Ikaruses certainly had many issues as well but they were a better performing bus overall than the GM 60's. The Ontario government forced the Ikaruses on Ottawa and Toronto since Orion was an Ontario crown corporation at that time and the gov't was giving a large subsidy for bus purchases. Despite that, OCT had given the 1986/87 60 foot bus order to Volvo but they pulled out of the NA bus market. OC had also tested Vanhool and Neoplan artics but (probably under gov't of Ontario pressure) wound up buying more Ikaruses. In any event I'm glad that the 8222 project happened. I remember when I spotted 8222 for the first time. I was walking north on Metcalfe at Laurier and at Metcalfe and Albert on passes through a bus that I hadn't seen on Ottawa streets in close to 20 years. I thought to myself 'OMG they've brought them back?' thinking maybe some of them had been in storage all these years. Fortunately I was also able to snag a handful of rides on it for the 18 months or so it was in service. I think the original plan was to have only 1 parts donor bus and to bring 2 of the ex-HSRs into revenue service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 OC Transpo & STO Classics next to each other. Photo taken sometime during the 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JCL Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Charlie said: Hello everyone, I found out recently that OC Transpo once had several 99’ Gillig Phantom buses and was wondering if anyone had any photos, Thanks OC Transpo never had Gillig Phantoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 42 minutes ago, JCL said: OC Transpo never had Gillig Phantoms. Haha your right I was being not smart: https://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/TRANSPO_9954-9964 I didn’t realize was not OC Transpo, just Transpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud-Invero Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 01/02/2018 at 8:09 PM, ONQCBusFan said: OC Transpo & STO Classics next to each other. Photo taken sometime during the 2000s This was taken sometime after 2007 but before 2010. STO retrofitted their fishbowls and classics with Balios or MegaMAX: 3000 destination signs in 2007, and OC got rid of the GM/MCI Classics in 2009 (if I'm not mistaken) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Transpo/STO Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, OCTranspoMaster said: This was taken sometime after 2007 but before 2010. STO retrofitted their fishbowls and classics with Balios or MegaMAX: 3000 destination signs in 2007, and OC got rid of the GM/MCI Classics in 2009 (if I'm not mistaken) I can tell you that this was definitely taken in 2010. See that Chez 106 ad on the side? That specific ad came out in 2010. I know because I remember seeing that exact bus with the same ad. Also, OC retired them in 2010. The last three were 9115, 8941, and 8942. GMs were all retired by 2008, except for 8792. That bus was retired and used as a shuttle bus in October 2009, but it officially got retired in December. 84xxs got retired 2004-2005. The 85xx buses got retired 2005-2007. The 87xx buses got retired 2004-2009. 8792 was the only bus to survive the strike, and last until the end of 2009. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Transpo/STO Fan Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Here's a photo of three buses waiting at Lebreton Station, back in June 2001. The Orion V in this photo was recently repainted. Photo by @tomsbuspage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oc4526 Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 hours ago, OC Transpo/STO Fan said: Here's a photo of three buses waiting at a Transitway station, back in June 2001. The Orion V in this photo was recently repainted. Photo by @tomsbuspage. That would be the old Lebreton Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud-Invero Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, OC Transpo/STO Fan said: Here's a photo of three buses waiting at Lebreton Station, back in June 2001. The Orion V in this photo was recently repainted. Photo by @tomsbuspage. Edit; Got confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCL Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, OCTranspoMaster said: I think that's a D40, has the curve at the rear unlike the Orion's straight boxy rear. The bus in the middle is a 1992 Orion V. There is no D40 in that picture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Transpo/STO Fan Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Here's a photo of 9150 taken back in October 2001. This bus had just recently gotten repainted in the new (messed up) leaf livery a few years before this photo was taken. Photo taken by Trevor Logan, Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1988 Orion Ikarus #8843 seen on route 8 Alta Vista in 1990. This was the route I would ride with my grandma back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1998 Orion V #9847 seen in 2003 with a wrap ad for Alcatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusFreak93 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Funny OC tweeted this throwback today haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsbuspage Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 I found this photo on ESBDave's Fotki page showing GM bus 7918 shortly after delivery in 1979. It is signed for route 24 Express with a window sign set to Tanglewood. The window signs fell into disuse shortly after this time, as the main rollsigns were updated to show the destination neighbourhoods in around 1980. This photo was taken by Bob Hussey and is being used for educational purposes only. Interestingly, route 24 never served Tanglewood. The route was created in November 1972 to serve Beacon Hill North in Gloucester Township, retained its route number during the 1980s renumberings, and was renumbered Connexion route 224 in December 2016. Tanglewood is in Nepean and is currently served by local route 83. Back in 1979, the neighbourhood was served by regular route 96, peak-period route 20 and Sunday route C5. Detail of Sept. 1979 system map (peak-period side) showing route 24 operating between Hull and Beacon Hill North via the Portage Bridge, Albert/Slater, Nicholas and the Queensway: Details of Sept. 1978 system map showing service in Tanglewood: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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