T3G Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Awww man, that just complicates everything...5796 can be at Wilson or Davisville...how on earth will I find it? (You may answer this question if you wish, but It's not intended as a "random ttc question". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 According to the description of this Youtube video, "all of us transit "buffs" should take the time to take videos of these trains before it's too late. Note: we only have about a month and a half left, so I say that we make the best of it now." I thought the H4's wouldn't be retired until around October-November next year? Can someone confirm?? That video is wrong. Only 1 new Toronto Rockets will be delivered by the end of next year, with the rest coming in 2010 and 2011. The H4s will last into 2010 for sure unless the TTC somehow gets 7 new TRs by then, which is not scheduled to happen. Awww man, that just complicates everything...5796 can be at Wilson or Davisville...how on earth will I find it? (You may answer this question if you wish, but It's not intended as a "random ttc question". It doesn't make a difference, it is always on the YUS line since the Sheppard Line uses T1s only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I frequently pass by the Woodbine and 14 area and the 2A buses tend to have long layover time. The round trip is 1 hour and drivers usually have 10+ mins or so break there, the ridership is low and drivers usually drive slowly along the way. What time are you passing by? During rush hours now a round trip is 2 hours, with 5 minutes scheduled at each terminus. During midday though, it's 1 hour round trip and 0 scheduled layover at both termini. I've taken 2A during that time enough to know that if you get delayed anywhere, anytime on that route that delay will carry over until PM rush starts. 2As are never on time leaving MSH. Oh my bad, I thought it was a VI. No problems, I'd probably make the same type of mistakes if you were referring to an MT vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 That video is wrong. Only 1 new Toronto Rockets will be delivered by the end of next year, with the rest coming in 2010 and 2011. The H4s will last into 2010 for sure unless the TTC somehow gets 7 new TRs by then, which is not scheduled to happen. That's good to hear! Still got plenty of time to ride 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Along with that, I have another question: When a Wilson Div. Subway enters service, does it go to Downsview or Wilson Stn. first? And is H5 #5796 (T1 Prototype) assigned to Wilson or Davisville? All cars on the YUS and Sheppard lines are assigned to Wilson. Davisville is used for storage and light repairs/cleaning only. As for where the cars start, you'll want to check out this site: http://www.ttc-routes.com/ Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted November 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 What time are you passing by? During rush hours now a round trip is 2 hours, with 5 minutes scheduled at each terminus. During midday though, it's 1 hour round trip and 0 scheduled layover at both termini. I've taken 2A during that time enough to know that if you get delayed anywhere, anytime on that route that delay will carry over until PM rush starts. 2As are never on time leaving MSH.No problems, I'd probably make the same type of mistakes if you were referring to an MT vehicle. MT is easier to identify since they follow a proper numbering scheme unlike all those ex-YRT vehicles that are all over the place. LOL. DRT's even more confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6254 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I am in the 14 and Warden area from 9-6, in midday there are only 2 buses and the buses are usually empty. When I leave at 6, I usually see the 2A drivers taking 10-15 mins break at Woodbine and Denison. Miller used to use fishbowls on the 2A before but now it is 40ft, there is still not a lot ridership as I see everyday. What time are you passing by? During rush hours now a round trip is 2 hours, with 5 minutes scheduled at each terminus. During midday though, it's 1 hour round trip and 0 scheduled layover at both termini. I've taken 2A during that time enough to know that if you get delayed anywhere, anytime on that route that delay will carry over until PM rush starts. 2As are never on time leaving MSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buschic Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 All cars on the YUS and Sheppard lines are assigned to Wilson. Davisville is used for storage and light repairs/cleaning only.As for where the cars start, you'll want to check out this site: http://www.ttc-routes.com/ Dan Dan, some of his stuff is just flat out WRONG.... I DO NOT rely on his site, I've tried to send him updates for stuff and he just NEVER posts it or even replies to my emails.... so I've quit trying to help the guy out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 MT is easier to identify since they follow a proper numbering scheme unlike all those ex-YRT vehicles that are all over the place. LOL. What is an ex-YRT vehicle? You mean ex-Markham, ex-Vaughan vehicles right? Even that, it's not so hard to follow those numbering schemes: All ex-Markham vehicles are 20xx, all ex-Vaughan vehicles are 518-530. ex-Richmond Hill/Aurora/Newmarkets follow the numbering scheme anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Dan, some of his stuff is just flat out WRONG.... I DO NOT rely on his site, I've tried to send him updates for stuff and he just NEVER posts it or even replies to my emails.... so I've quit trying to help the guy out... I can assure you that Neil's stuff was right at the time. Some of it may be out of date now, however. Nonetheless, it will give you an idea of how things work. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buschic Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I can assure you that Neil's stuff was right at the time. Some of it may be out of date now, however. Nonetheless, it will give you an idea of how things work.Dan Yep, I realize that, but he NEEDS to update, I would do a site of my own, but I just dont have the time or energy to do it right now, I had a site up for years about HSR, but ripped it down 2 years ago, a few weeks before I moved here, I just didnt have the money to keep it going, and I also was moving away from my server hosting location, and I dont like doing server hosting anymore... if I had a easy to use web builder and a LOT of space, I COULD put it back up and update it and Start a TTC database as well, as I have done on paper so far... but the time needed to do that AND keep it at the level of accurate information is just a lot right now...life been kinda crazy the last 3-4 months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I've been wondering about this for a while now: How often do the TTC's trains go out of service with people still in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcgeek Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I've been wondering about this for a while now: How often do the TTC's trains go out of service with people still in them? What do you mean by that? Why the two partners are still in the set while it's deadheading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 No, I mean how often do the trains go to the yards with passengers still in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6688 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 No, I mean how often do the trains go to the yards with passengers still in them? I don't know if the procedures have changed in the last few years. But I remember seeing the odd train at the end of PM rush on the BD line having to stop at Warden to let the odd person out through the service door. I'm guessing the train had left Kennedy before the guard had walked to the front of the train, and caught a person sleeping or just confused. I haven't heard any stories of a person ever making it to the yard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40-90 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't know if the procedures have changed in the last few years. But I remember seeing the odd train at the end of PM rush on the BD line having to stop at Warden to let the odd person out through the service door. I'm guessing the train had left Kennedy before the guard had walked to the front of the train, and caught a person sleeping or just confused. I haven't heard any stories of a person ever making it to the yard though. A few years ago I saw a commercial were this drunk person stayed on the train, till it reached the yard. I'm guessing it's common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6688 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 A few years ago I saw a commercial were this drunk person stayed on the train, till it reached the yard. I'm guessing it's common. I don't know if I'm thinking of the same commercial as you, but IIRC, it's the one for MADD Canada. Don't believe everything you see on TV To the TTC, they treat those subway yards like Fort Knox. If you don't work there, good luck getting in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcgeek Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't know if the procedures have changed in the last few years. But I remember seeing the odd train at the end of PM rush on the BD line having to stop at Warden to let the odd person out through the service door. I'm guessing the train had left Kennedy before the guard had walked to the front of the train, and caught a person sleeping or just confused. I haven't heard any stories of a person ever making it to the yard though. I do see people taking the train from Greenwood Yard onto the mainline. I'd assume that they're workers from Greenwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6688 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I do see people taking the train from Greenwood Yard onto the mainline. I'd assume that they're workers from Greenwood? I would sure hope so! Otherwise, where is my ticket to get in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40-90 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I do see people taking the train from Greenwood Yard onto the mainline. I'd assume that they're workers from Greenwood? Most likey. This morning an ALRV went into Russel Yard unloaded and loaded passengers. Sometimes streetcars go in there but don't unload any passengers. They just wait for a bit then move along heading east or west. Also a few times that i've been on 85 Sheppard, I've ended up in Malvern garage by the entrance, with people inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't know if the procedures have changed in the last few years. But I remember seeing the odd train at the end of PM rush on the BD line having to stop at Warden to let the odd person out through the service door. I'm guessing the train had left Kennedy before the guard had walked to the front of the train, and caught a person sleeping or just confused. I haven't heard any stories of a person ever making it to the yard though. This happened to someone at lawrence west station like 5 years ago. She couldn't understand english from my understanding. She was locked in and dragged to the extra lane and the train was left there for a while. I don't know after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Also a few times that i've been on 85 Sheppard, I've ended up in Malvern garage by the entrance, with people inside. Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 What is an ex-YRT vehicle? You mean ex-Markham, ex-Vaughan vehicles right? Even that, it's not so hard to follow those numbering schemes: All ex-Markham vehicles are 20xx, all ex-Vaughan vehicles are 518-530. ex-Richmond Hill/Aurora/Newmarkets follow the numbering scheme anyway. Yeah, that's what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 1. Do D40LF's run on weekends? 2. How many unrebuilt D40LF's are left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 1. Do D40LF's run on weekends?2. How many unrebuilt D40LF's are left? 1. Yes 2. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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