Express691 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Reminds me: Once upon a time, there was a dashcam video of a 19 that missed the turn into Metrotown Station. Wires came off as the bus was trying to perform a 3-point turn and ended up stuck in the middle of the road. Not sure if it's taken down though. Also, don't be this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWiRu4flgAE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaintrolley Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 7 hours ago, Express691 said: Wires came off as the bus was trying to perform a 3-point turn and ended up stuck in the middle of the road. Wires coming down is never a good thing. It is very dangerous to everyone in the area until the power company can shut off the power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 23 hours ago, madog222 said: Not to mention it is illegal to perform a u-turn… What I meant was u-turns at non-traffic-light intersections, like how the 2 MACDONALD-16TH turns around using a u-turn on 16th Avenue. But now, it doesn’t appear feasible or beneficial to install new wires to let trolleys turn around anywhere in the middle of the road. 23 hours ago, Express691 said: -spends money on u-turn wires -still require buses to de-wire to turn around ?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TranslinkKid Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 The only place where trolleys kinda make a U turn today are UBC Loop and Marine Dr Stn. There were U-turn wires before at Cambie & 29th, 49th, and 64th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 20 hours ago, TranslinkKid said: The only place where trolleys kinda make a U turn today are UBC Loop and Marine Dr Stn. There were U-turn wires before at Cambie & 29th, 49th, and 64th. For the 15 when it was a trolley route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Marriott Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Some major modifications to the overhead has occurred due to construction on the Granville Bridge. The NB Granville wire has been removed from 5th Ave to Drake St, leaving only the Seymour wire. All NB service is being routed via the Seymour off ramp, then jogging back to Granville via Davie St. In addition, the switch just north of 5th Ave has been modified so that the straight/coast direction which previously went to the Granville wire now connects to the Seymour wire, while the right turn/power direction that used to lead to Seymour is now a dead end. It is quite odd to see only a single set of wires NB on the Granville Bridge. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Marriott Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 SB detours on the Granville Bridge began today, with all service jogging over on Davie to Howe, then heading south to the bridge. The SB wire on Granville has been removed from Drake to where the Howe St on ramp merges onto the bridge. The wire setup is interesting; the SB Howe wire has been routed onto the Granville/inner wire where the on ramp merges onto the main bridge. The remaining SB Howe/outer wire is tied off at this point, then proceeds normally over the bridge to the merge at the south end. This may change soon; when I was on the bridge the overhead crews had just arrived, and may be removing the inaccessible SB wire off, leaving only a single wire just as they did NB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNelson Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 On 2/22/2024 at 7:36 PM, Electric said: About the wires in Vancouver: besides wires on main trolley routes, there are some that exist on minor streets and where trolleys won’t normally travel. (Such as, Frederick Street, Slocan St, Beatrice St, 34th Avenue). Many of those wired routes are there because of past operations. For example the wires on 22nd Ave, Slocan Street and on 34th Ave exist because of the former 11/24 Stanley Park /Nanaimo route - it used to run to Kingsway and Slocan and turn around using 34th Ave until the Skytrain opened and the route was truncated. A similar situation exists with the wires running along Earles Street to Kingsway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Most if not all of the seemingly unused sections of wiring are in fact in use either for garage runs (both NIS and sometimes in service) or for diversions or special situations. TL and its predecessors' policy seems to be "it might come in useful sometime". When the Expo line openend and trolleybus service was truncated to Nanaimo station, the previous in service wires on E. 22nd Ave and Slocan Street were (and are) still needed for deadhead runs from/to VTC. Even more intersting is that the wires for the 16 on Earles are not just deadhead wires, some of the garage runs from VTC actually enter public service at Earles and Kingsway. the M-F times are 04.53; 05.10; 05.27; 05.44; 06.01; 06.25; 07.20. Equally there are two homebound 16s that conitinue in service beyond 29th Ave Station the Earles at Kingsway at 01.18 and 01,49. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express691 Posted April 6 Report Share Posted April 6 FWIW NYCMTA has purchased 5 Solaris URBINO buses for demonstration purposes. On a more local note, there will be detours April 13 for the 3/8 trolley runs in the 49th avenue area due to Vaisakhi Parade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buizelbus Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 On 4/5/2024 at 11:10 PM, Express691 said: FWIW NYCMTA has purchased 5 Solaris URBINO buses for demonstration purposes. To further comment these test units are being shipped in from Europe, being purchased with municipal funds to avoid US content requirements. Press release states that their NA factory will be up and running in the next few years, producing exclusively battery electric and trolleybuses. They state their intention to bid on the Vancouver trolley contract. I wonder if we might see Solaris bidding on Vancouver BEV contracts around the same time, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallmich Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 11 hours ago, buizelbus said: To further comment these test units are being shipped in from Europe, being purchased with municipal funds to avoid US content requirements. Press release states that their NA factory will be up and running in the next few years, producing exclusively battery electric and trolleybuses. They state their intention to bid on the Vancouver trolley contract. I wonder if we might see Solaris bidding on Vancouver BEV contracts around the same time, too. Do you have a link to that press release? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog222 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 A development permit has been submitted to the city to build a new Oakridge Rectifier Station as part of redevelopment of the Oakridge Transit Centre site. It will be relocated to the west side of the site just north of the gas station at the Oak & 41st intersection. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin607 Posted Friday at 12:43 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:43 PM Translink have just issued a Request for Information for potential suppliers for the trolleybus order. https://service.ariba.com/Discovery.aw/ad/viewRFX?id=18531806 If Translink exercises all the options, the order could reach 512 trolleybuses -308 standard; 204 articulated - doubling the fleet size. Lots of interesting speculation to be had, like which routes will the extra buses go on, the need for a second garage to accomadate part of the enlarged fleet, which BRT lines would be operated by trolleybuses etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog222 Posted Saturday at 01:16 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:16 AM ^Link https://discovery.ariba.com/rfx/18531806 Initial order is for 107 40' including the pilot bus with options for 201 more 40' and 204 artics. This definitely means they are planning for a significant expansion to the trolley overhead network. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2102 Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:33 AM 16 minutes ago, madog222 said: ^Link https://discovery.ariba.com/rfx/18531806 Initial order is for 107 40' including the pilot bus with options for 201 more 40' and 204 artics. This definitely means they are planning for a significant expansion to the trolley overhead network. Not necessarily. If the buses have in motion charging it could just mean they're going to extend the existing routes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madog222 Posted Saturday at 01:40 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:40 AM 8 minutes ago, 2102 said: Not necessarily. If the buses have in motion charging it could just mean they're going to extend the existing routes That seems unlikely if the are doubling the fleet, especially as only a few of the routes make sense for extension. Though perhaps the numbers make sense if there is a major frequency increase aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted Saturday at 01:42 AM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:42 AM 1 hour ago, 2102 said: Not necessarily. If the buses have in motion charging it could just mean they're going to extend the existing routes In motion charging, plus an option for industry standard plugs to allow for the ability to charge like battery electric buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buizelbus Posted Saturday at 11:06 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 11:06 PM 21 hours ago, madog222 said: That seems unlikely if the are doubling the fleet, especially as only a few of the routes make sense for extension. Though perhaps the numbers make sense if there is a major frequency increase aswell. Considering many of the trolley routes, including the 3 and 8, have abysmal ridership return numbers compared to before the initial COVID outbreak, I doubt there'll be major frequency increases on any of them soon. Combine this with the 9 being supplemented by the Broadway Subway, it doesn't make sense. The only one I can think of is the electrification of the 99 and R4, but that would be mostly artics. The R5 could be electrified, but I don't think the range works out unless wires are extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Guy Posted Sunday at 01:26 AM Report Share Posted Sunday at 01:26 AM 2 hours ago, buizelbus said: Considering many of the trolley routes, including the 3 and 8, have abysmal ridership return numbers compared to before the initial COVID outbreak, I doubt there'll be major frequency increases on any of them soon. Combine this with the 9 being supplemented by the Broadway Subway, it doesn't make sense. The only one I can think of is the electrification of the 99 and R4, but that would be mostly artics. The R5 could be electrified, but I don't think the range works out unless wires are extended. I could be wrong, but the NFI XTs have around 45km off-wire capability, but Burnaby Mountain would probably drain the batteries a bit more. R5 is probably doable if the NIMBYs in Burnaby allow wire extensions to Willingdon or something. 99 and R4 are also possible but they’ll need express wires like Hastings so they don’t get stuck behind local routes or else they’ll have to dewire and put the polls up at least twice per trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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