Rekognize Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 It fishtails and it's hard to keep it straight. Senior op told me to use the curb when going uphill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 But you may get stuck in the snow bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 hours ago, fidoo66 said: I have never driven an artic in the snow actually. Are they actually just as bad as hybrids? Aren't they better cause they're diesel They can jackknife. like this https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/2wogug/xpost_from_rwtf_articulated_bus_split_in_half/ Personally I seen a few get stuck on Dufferin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 23 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: I was told that 30 or so broke down just from MtD overnight from a snowstorm 2 years ago. Being stranded overnight is terrible for everyone. Better retire all the hybrids or bring some diesels to all divisions if they really want to focus on customer service. They're forecasting a cold and snowy winter this year. Unfortunately MtD and Malvern only have hybrids or artics. Both are horrible during a snowstorm. MD has a lot of routes with hills. Not a good combination. I remember in that storm doing the 89 being full standing and inching my way up Weston @ Black Creek. Wasn't fun. Also have bad memories doing the 55, 47 and 161/71B....and that's not even mentioning the 32 or 52. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, andyman said: MD has a lot of routes with hills. Not a good combination. I remember in that storm doing the 89 being full standing and inching my way up Weston @ Black Creek. Wasn't fun. Reminds me of the 52's with the old GMs going up the hill on Lawrence west of Scarlett. The worst ones could barely make it up on a dry sunny day with an empty load. Toronto does have a lot of ravines everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin3157 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 On 12/4/2016 at 2:43 PM, fidoo66 said: I have never driven an artic in the snow actually. Are they actually just as bad as hybrids? Aren't they better cause they're diesel just watch out when it's winter on the 95... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidoo66 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 On 12/5/2016 at 4:53 PM, Kelvin3157 said: just watch out when it's winter on the 95... Hmm interesting I have actually seen this video before lol. One question tho, lets say the bus in front rolled a few more feet down, ultimately hitting the driver and the bus behind it...who would be at fault? Would the driver in front be at fault for not knowing how to get up a hill or would the driver behind him be at fault for being so close to his a** and not keeping a safe space? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 hours ago, fidoo66 said: Hmm interesting I have actually seen this video before lol. One question tho, lets say the bus in front rolled a few more feet down, ultimately hitting the driver and the bus behind it...who would be at fault? Would the driver in front be at fault for not knowing how to get up a hill or would the driver behind him be at fault for being so close to his a** and not keeping a safe space? Just curious Whose at fault is the person supposed to be doing the salting! Lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 5 hours ago, fidoo66 said: Hmm interesting I have actually seen this video before lol. One question tho, lets say the bus in front rolled a few more feet down, ultimately hitting the driver and the bus behind it...who would be at fault? Would the driver in front be at fault for not knowing how to get up a hill or would the driver behind him be at fault for being so close to his a** and not keeping a safe space? Just curious Most likely non preventable. Each bus is different even though they are the same model. Some buses can make it some can't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcscarb Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 When do you receive the employee pass? Can you go ride along with other trainees before your actual training start date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekognize Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Employee pass you get at day1 of training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowtyper Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hi everyone, I was reading a few pages here and there was a time many people were concerned with master list. From what I gather it's like a big reshuffling in divisions to even things out? Lots of worried posting but did something come of it or did I miss a page reading? Would like to hear more about master lists and the process. I have just been giving a training start date for Bloor Danforth subway. Any tips or links to good info would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 don't worry there won't be another master until a new division is open. I have confirmed with one of the union executive that the temporary garage is a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 In training, is there any emphasis on driving smoothly? I was on a bus the other day where the op constantly stabbed and then released the accelerator. The speed of the bus was governed by how often the pedal was stabbed/released. Since this was a 7900, it was quite jerky. Pulling around Islington station to the bays, I regretted getting up and standing by the door, since the busts of power were pretty abrupt. Fortunately I don't get seasick....or at least, I haven't been seasick yet, despite being out in the middle of the Atlantic on tossing ferries a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 No but use common sense. If a passenger fell as a result of the jerk, you will be in a a lot of trouble. I know a couple operaters press the acclerater before releasing the spring brake. Not a pleasant riDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 On 24/01/2017 at 10:09 AM, Ed T. said: In training, is there any emphasis on driving smoothly? I was on a bus the other day where the op constantly stabbed and then released the accelerator. The speed of the bus was governed by how often the pedal was stabbed/released. Since this was a 7900, it was quite jerky. Pulling around Islington station to the bays, I regretted getting up and standing by the door, since the busts of power were pretty abrupt. Fortunately I don't get seasick....or at least, I haven't been seasick yet, despite being out in the middle of the Atlantic on tossing ferries a few times. I had a 79 yesterday with the worst harshest retarder ever. Almost didn't even need to touch the brakes but of course people thought it was me who didn't know how to drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed T. Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 14 hours ago, andyman said: I had a 79 yesterday with the worst harshest retarder ever. Almost didn't even need to touch the brakes but of course people thought it was me who didn't know how to drive... I was on a PCC back in the day (when they were on their last legs) and this streetcar had only two modes, full acceleration and full braking. It was an exciting ride. I think that was the time when we went into Connaught and onto the ladder tracks from eastbound Queen. I remember how bouncy it was going over all those switches. Anyway, I generally have two criteria for a transit operator's driving skill: Knowing how to get the desired speed or braking by pressing the appropriate pedal the appropriate amount is a basic skill. Not constantly switching between "too much....too little....too much....too little...." You'd think this was essential ability, but there are many drivers of private vehicles who have no idea how to do this either. Sometimes these are the people who tailgate with the brake lights on and off in moving traffic, even though I can keep up while hardly varying the gas pedal pressure. The bus driver I had the other day was the worst failure I have come across on the TTC. These kinds of drivers/operators I consider unskilled. Managing hard braking without a jerk as the vehicle actually comes to a stop. I know I'm in the hands of a skilled driver if the bus or streetcar comes to a rapid stop without that final jerk, and I give the op full props for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betablocker Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 In training, is there any emphasis on driving smoothly? There is, yes, but there is more emphasis on defensive driving. The "smoothness" will come with time and practice, and as mentioned by the other ops sometimes it's vehicle specific despite the best effort to drive smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcscarb Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 got my call for Febuary 13 Streetcar training My division is roncy. Give me the down low on roncy and tips for streetcar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCOpITM Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, ttcscarb said: got my call for Febuary 13 Streetcar training My division is roncy. Give me the down low on roncy and tips for streetcar! Congrats! Nice division with lots of friendly people. It's like a family. Pay attention during training and do your homework, they're going to train you on all 3 types of cars; CLRVs, ALRVs and LFLRVs. Take your time and don't be too hasty, stop for all switches. The only thing with Roncy is that you don't have very many routes to choose from so there isn't a lot of available work which means there is a chance that you may be stuck on spareboard for the first little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betablocker Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I second what TTCopITM said. It's a smaller division that feels like family, really good vibe going on. Shop steward is incredibly helpful and so are all the divisional trainers. Parking on site is brutal but you can park for free with your pass at Budapest Park and just walk across the bridge. You'll first train on the new low floor streetcar at Leslie Barns, which is an incredible facility, and then the older A and C cars at Roncy and Russell. Pay attention in class and get ready for a challenging experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowtyper Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Any advice for me, going to Bloor Danforth? What are the "bad shifts" that new guys get stuck with like and how long do you stay stuck with them? Split shifts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 On 2017-01-29 at 0:25 AM, slowtyper said: Any advice for me, going to Bloor Danforth? What are the "bad shifts" that new guys get stuck with like and how long do you stay stuck with them? Split shifts? With subway you are on sign slip for 2-3 board periods. Which is night work called late reliefs, or on report after 2pm usually. There's really no bad shift, you serve the public based on there travel pattern which for us will not be normal working hours. Theres no 9-5 shift unless you have 15+ years You may get lucky and never get sent out, but will come to bite you in the ass when your not getting the driving experience. I think they force you on a train if your not getting sent out often enough. You move up slowly in seniority compared to any other mode. They usually send you for SRT training within you probationary period, I guess to put more pressure for you to pass, compared to someone not on probation. I guess now that I think about it, both YUS and BD, the worst shifts or off days are split off days, which is usually Sunday/Wednesday, Sunday/Tuesday and Sunday/Thursday. All day work. no split off days on the Afternoon or night shift. The T1s are a good train to drive, I like driving them over the TRs, I find the T1s handle much better. They brake better when fast, if you drive to slow the brakes can be rough. It sounds weird until you actually drive it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTCOpITM Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 41 minutes ago, FlyerD901 said: With subway you are on sign slip for 2-3 board periods. Which is night work called late reliefs, or on report after 2pm usually. There's really no bad shift, you serve the public based on there travel pattern which for us will not be normal working hours. Theres no 9-5 shift unless you have 15+ years You may get lucky and never get sent out, but will come to bite you in the ass when your not getting the driving experience. I think they force you on a train if your not getting sent out often enough. You move up slowly in seniority compared to any other mode. They usually send you for SRT training within you probationary period, I guess to put more pressure for you to pass, compared to someone not on probation. I guess now that I think about it, both YUS and BD, the worst shifts or off days are split off days, which is usually Sunday/Wednesday, Sunday/Tuesday and Sunday/Thursday. All day work. no split off days on the Afternoon or night shift. The T1s are a good train to drive, I like driving them over the TRs, I find the T1s handle much better. They brake better when fast, if you drive to slow the brakes can be rough. It sounds weird until you actually drive it. They don't train you guys on the SRT in initial training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowtyper Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 5 hours ago, FlyerD901 said: With subway you are on sign slip for 2-3 board periods. Which is night work called late reliefs, or on report after 2pm usually. There's really no bad shift, you serve the public based on there travel pattern which for us will not be normal working hours. Theres no 9-5 shift unless you have 15+ years You may get lucky and never get sent out, but will come to bite you in the ass when your not getting the driving experience. I think they force you on a train if your not getting sent out often enough. You move up slowly in seniority compared to any other mode. They usually send you for SRT training within you probationary period, I guess to put more pressure for you to pass, compared to someone not on probation. I guess now that I think about it, both YUS and BD, the worst shifts or off days are split off days, which is usually Sunday/Wednesday, Sunday/Tuesday and Sunday/Thursday. All day work. no split off days on the Afternoon or night shift. The T1s are a good train to drive, I like driving them over the TRs, I find the T1s handle much better. They brake better when fast, if you drive to slow the brakes can be rough. It sounds weird until you actually drive it. Thanks for your input! What would you say the hardest part of subway training is? Hardest part of actual subway operation? So when you are on sign slip and "on report"...does that mean you are just waiting there to be called to drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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