DE40LFR Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Speaking of new Xcelisor artics, I saw a finished XD?-60 artic at the lot in NFI Winnipeg. Related? note: no livery, double-width doors Most likely the Xcelsior Demo I saw earlier this week too... I don't believe it's a Translink model. I think it's the one featured on New Flyer's website - the plain white one with black doors... except when I saw it this week, there were no roof rails, exposing that there are no battery units - just the standard HVAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink fan Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Can anyone confirm that the 25 XDE60s that are coming will have the Allison EP 50 hybrid system? Most likely since the EP50 was made for artics. Like on our 09' DE60LFRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted July 21, 2012 Board Admin Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I assume this article is referring to these buses, though it doesn't specifically say articulated buses anywhere (just the picture): http://www.vancouversun.com/cars/TransLink+signs+deal+hybrid+buses/6967580/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Very interesting quote in the article from the Sun. "Hybrid is not appropriate for West Van driving, because the hills would overtax the small diesel engine," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mira Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Very interesting quote in the article from the Sun. "Hybrid is not appropriate for West Van driving, because the hills would overtax the small diesel engine," lots of tough hills to climb in north van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 lots of tough hills to climb in north van I get that but I was surprised to learn that a hybrid would not be up for the hills. Apparently because the smaller diesel engine--even in combo with the batteries--is inadequate for the hills. I would have thought the torquey hybrid would master the hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidneyTransitfan Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 It would depend. BC Transit's 2005 DE40LFs when new could outrun a ferrari! I have told a few transit fans that story from a driver... hehe. They were geared down though shortly afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus_Medic Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I get that but I was surprised to learn that a hybrid would not be up for the hills. Apparently because the smaller diesel engine--even in combo with the batteries--is inadequate for the hills. I would have thought the torquey hybrid would master the hills.Depends on how long that grade is. Once the batteries are depleted, the engine has to survive on its own. Uphill on a long continuous grade, the engine never gets a chance to replenish the battery reservoir. About the only solution is to pull over and stop for a few minutes mid-grade, or up the engine output by fueling system changes, or physically replacing the engine with a larger one. That sort of negates any advantage a hybrid has.Having said all that, I haven't visited Vancouver in over 20 years, and really have no idea what these hills look like. Over here in Ontario, Hamilton has a couple of long steady grades of at least mile in length, and the flyers with the Allison hybrid system ( both 40 footers and artics) seem to cope alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink fan Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The XDE40 demo didnt do bad on the 15th street hill climb when it was here. But like bus medic said, the bus had a stop mid grade which helped the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX BRT Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 The XDE40 demo didnt do bad on the 15th street hill climb when it was here. But like bus medic said, the bus had a stop mid grade which helped the engine. Thanks guys! I think I'm getting it. We are talking tough hills--serious long hills and no opportunity for regenerative braking in sight. And if the tranny is tuned for economy that could be part of it too. Anyone know how long and how steep the longest climb is in West Vancouver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Having said all that, I haven't visited Vancouver in over 20 years, and really have no idea what these hills look like. Over here in Ontario, Hamilton has a couple of long steady grades of at least mile in length, and the flyers with the Allison hybrid system ( both 40 footers and artics) seem to cope alright. Try riding the Burnaby mountains from the bottom of the hill to SFU! That was fun riding it as it going down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink fan Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah Burnaby mountain is a toughie for hybrids. Even the ISL in the DE60LFRs that go up heat up the back benches nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCPublicTransitFan Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's been said that it's for RTC use.. .I'm not too sure about that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 It's been said that it's for RTC use.. .I'm not too sure about that though The reason they are going to RTC is because they are the only depot with full time air conditioning mechanics. Surrey and Port Coquitlam are part timers. As far as I know. - Bryan " Goggles " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red89GT Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transitfan Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 So conventional buses get the no charcoal paint job now? Looks ugly. Funny considering the recent shuttle order has the full paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted November 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 This probably belongs here...... Unless you have permission from the original photographer (Derek Cheung) it probably doesn't belong here. Chris Cassidy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCPublicTransitFan Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 The reason they are going to RTC is because they are the only depot with full time air conditioning mechanics. Surrey and Port Coquitlam are part timers. As far as I know. - Bryan " Goggles " I can see why, with the Orion Vs. Is the frameless windows why TL decided to drop the charcoal? Too much black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormThief24 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 I can see why, with the Orion Vs. Is the frameless windows why TL decided to drop the charcoal? Too much black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikebuses Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 +1 Just going to bang my head against the wall again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
323 Surrey Ctrl Stn Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Everyone take a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikebuses Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Everyone take a shot [picture removed] Thanks... Continues banging my head against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCPublicTransitFan Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 +1 Just going to bang my head against the wall again. Thanks... Starts facepalming Continues banging my head against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthVanBusFan Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Does anyone know where the photos by Derek Cheung were taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
translink Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Winterpeg, MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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