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  1. New Flyer electric bus

    New name for the XE40 and XE60 buses: The Xcelsior CHARGE™ https://www.newflyer.com/2017/10/new-flyer-unveils-next-generation-electric-transit-bus-xcelsior-charge/
  2. Gillig product discussion

    Thankfully, there is some state and federal funding going for zero emission buses. But I'm sure you are saying its nowhere near enough right now for all of the diesel buses that will need replacing. I know you are right. One thing is that since there is large operating savings to be had, financing is likely to be available for the up front capital cost. Proterra's leasing program (I believe BYD offers the same) is one creative way to help TA's get into the ongoing savings that electric buses provide. https://www.proterra.com/financing/ As more and more fleets turn to diesel, prices are expected to continue to fall rapidly, as they have been doing. It helps that Gillig and others are also getting into battery buses.
  3. Gillig product discussion

    I don't blame you for being skeptical. You make good points, especially since diesel has been relatively cheap since 2014. But consider that all battery buses have none of the maintenance headaches associated with diesel whatsoever. No filters, no exhaust, no fuel lines. And overall I believe the price of electricity for fuel is less than 1/4th that of Diesel right now, even at a time when petroleum products are cheap. Here is one study that concludes the following: "From a financial perspective, the savings associated with fuel (cost of diesel vs. cost of electricity) and with bus maintenance more than offsets the higher cost of electric buses including the cost of the recharging infrastructure over the lifetime of a bus. Typically, electric buses cost about $300k more than diesel buses, and annual savings are estimated at $39k per year over the 12-year lifetime of the bus, excluding health care cost benefits." Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~ja3041/Electric Bus Analysis for NYC Transit by J Aber Columbia University - May 2016.pdf
  4. Gillig product discussion

    As the New Flyer CEO and others have said, the future is in electric buses. I think diesel is on its way out--too polluting and the filter systems are expensive. CNG probably also has a nice future--especially gas made from waste, called RNG. According to the following FTA link: "Gainesville RTS will receive funding to purchase Gillig 40' battery electric buses and depot chargers to replace diesel buses. These buses will be Gainesville RTS's first zero emission buses, and one of the first deployments of the Gillig battery electric bus." Jacksonville is also getting Gillig 40 foot battery electric buses, and so is Honolulu. https://www.transit.dot.gov/funding/grants/fiscal-year-2017-low-or-no-emission-low-no-bus-program-projects
  5. Proterra

    Proterra announced that it has 21 new (plus 8 existing) customers who are buying buses with Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Low or No Emission Vehicle Deployment Grants (Low-No). https://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2017/09/26/CL99160
  6. Proterra

    Story in the LA Times today Proterra claims world record, says its electric bus traveled more than 1,100 miles on a single charge Its Catalyst E2 all-electric bus traveled 1,101.2 miles over a test track on a single charge, the company said. The test was part publicity stunt and part demonstration of the gains made in electric vehicle technology. The longest range Tesla Model S, for example, is rated at 335 miles between charges. No one has ordered the test bus, laden with battery packs totaling 660 kilowatt hours of energy. The top-end Tesla battery pack is 100 kilowatt hours. Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-proterra-range-record-20170919-story.html
  7. WMATA Washington

    Great conversation guys. Here is more on the subject of WMATA and their future plans regarding buses. Sounds like they have no place for more artics. And they would need to upgrade facilities to accomodate electric bus charging. So they need to get after that, but it doesn't sound like they plan to. http://wtop.com/tracking-metro-24-7/2017/09/metros-plans-longer-buses-rebuilding-110-year-old-garage/
  8. SporTran to get 2011 New Flyer CNG Buses

    New report from KTBS highlights service increases and new buses at Sportran! "Sportran will have a fleet of 50 buses and 33 of them will be brand new. Five of the new buses will be all electric. (Proterra electric buses) "We're first in the state and first in the region to have these type buses and operate them," said Washington. (Washington is the CEO) Source: https://www.ktbs.com/community/sportran-getting-new-all-electric-buses/article_60c23a14-999d-11e7-82b9-bbb30ac015e6.html
  9. Proterra

    More details today on Proterra leasing buses to NY MTA: Five Proterra Catalyst® E2 buses that are outfitted with WiFi and USB charging ports. As part of MTA's fleet, Proterra's Catalyst E2 buses will go into service this December and initially serve routes B39 and B32 in Brooklyn, Queens, and Manhattan. The lease program aims to evaluate the combined economic, environmental and performance benefits of deploying an all-electric bus fleet. Over the three-year lease, Proterra expects MTA to reduce 2,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions and save approximately $560,0001 on maintenance and operating costs. The E2 buses are the longest range, biggest battery buses that Proterra offers, and the Proterra website says they can go as far as 350 miles on a charge with the biggest battery. No doubt battery sizes are customizable to suit the buyer. https://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2017/09/12/CL84662
  10. Proterra

    Proterra Expands its Southeastern Reach as CATbus Acquires its Second Fleet of Battery-Electric Proterra Buses Source: http://www.masstransitmag.com/press_release/12365970/proterra-expands-its-southeastern-reach-as-clemson-area-transit-acquires-its-second-fleet-of-battery-electric-proterra-buses The ten-bus purchase complements the six Proterra buses already servicing the City of Seneca, S.C. that are operated by CATbus. In 2015, Seneca became the first city in the U.S. to operate an all-electric bus fleet and now serves as a model for other municipalities considering all-electric bus transit. Over the past three years, CATbus has played host to transit leadership representing cities throughout North America and Europe who are looking to replicate the Seneca success in their cities. “The FTA likes to see projects that are successful, and with the Seneca project, it's been a total success,” Moody said. “We are building success onto success.”
  11. Winnipeg Transit Battery Electric Buses

    In the Winnipeg Free Press, the associate head of the department of biosystems engineering at the University of Manitoba argues (rather convincingly too) that Winnipeg is perfectly matched for electric buses. https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/twelve-years-to-transform-transit-441358583.html (quote) But only one city has a combination of factors that makes it a perfect candidate for battery-electric buses: Winnipeg. With the presence of a local bus manufacturer with extensive experience in battery-electric buses (New Flyer Industries), one of the lowest electricity costs in the developed world (Manitoba Hydro), a 100 per cent renewable electricity generation mix and a transit authority that has been working with the local utility, bus maker and researchers to test and perfect the on-route charging infrastructure needed to complete the transition, there is no other jurisdiction that can match these conditions.(end quote)
  12. Winnipeg Transit and area

    In the Winnipeg Free Press, the associate head of the department of biosystems engineering at the University of Manitoba argues (rather convincingly too) that Winnipeg is perfectly matched for electric buses. https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/twelve-years-to-transform-transit-441358583.html (quote) But only one city has a combination of factors that makes it a perfect candidate for battery-electric buses: Winnipeg. With the presence of a local bus manufacturer with extensive experience in battery-electric buses (New Flyer Industries), one of the lowest electricity costs in the developed world (Manitoba Hydro), a 100 per cent renewable electricity generation mix and a transit authority that has been working with the local utility, bus maker and researchers to test and perfect the on-route charging infrastructure needed to complete the transition, there is no other jurisdiction that can match these conditions.(end quote)
  13. Proterra

    Proterra is targeting the airport market and has signed its first customer. (Sure would love to see Chicago Midway get some electric buses.) Raleigh-Durham Airport (RDU) Authority has approved the purchase of four Proterra Catalyst® E2 zero-emissions battery-electric transit buses and related charging infrastructure. https://www.proterra.com/press-release/raleigh-durham-airport-taps-proterra-to-deliver-north-carolinas-first-electric-airport-passenger-bus-fleet/ “Bringing zero-emission buses to airports throughout North America is an integral part of Proterra’s next stage of growth, and we couldn’t be happier to announce RDU as our first airport customer,” said Ryan Popple, CEO of Proterra.
  14. Portland TriMet

    TriMet's electric buses will debut in Beaverton Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/news/2017/08/10/trimets-electric-buses-will-debut-in-beaverton.html "TriMet will debut its mini-fleet of battery-electric buses in Beaverton beginning in the fall of 2018, the agency said Wednesday. Five 40-foot electric buses will run on the 62-Murray Blvd line, a 13-mile route between the Sunset Transit Center and Washington Square Transit Center. TriMet announced a year ago that it had received a $3.4 million federal grant to purchase four electric buses. The number was upped to five when Portland General Electric included up to $800,000 for charging infrastructure in its state-mandated transportation electrification plan. The Beaverton route was selected as the best option near the agency's Southwest Merlo Road garage, the only TriMet operations facility that currently has "space available to install infrastructure for depot-based charging and maintenance of the five new vehicles," according to Public Information Officer Tommy Moore. While in service, the buses will be charged at the Sunset Transit Center using an overhead fast charger that can provide 40 to 60 miles of range in 10 to 15 minutes, Moore said." (the rest of this story is available via the bizjournals link)
  15. New Flyer electric bus

    New Flyer sells XE60s! BYD too. No one else has 60 footer all-electrics available. http://www.masstransitmag.com/news/12355328/metro-agrees-to-buy-95-electric-buses-in-the-first-step-toward-an-emissions-free-fleet
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