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  1. St. Albert Sightings

    There is a bit of information on the St. Albert electric bus program toward the bottom of the following article: https://www.act-news.com/news/transit-leading-the-way-toward-heavy-duty-electrification/ It sounds like they've been pleased with the range, and the fuel-cost savings have been substantial. StAT’s diesel buses cost $0.45 to $0.50 per km; the new battery-electric units are averaging about $0.09 per km.
  2. Cummins

    Austin MetroRapid 2014 Nova artics are breaking down a lot. Source: https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2017/12/breakdowns-plague-metrorapid-fleet/ (quote) Of the original fleet, the 22 60-foot articulated buses that operate along the No. 801 route have had more trouble than their 40-foot sisters on the No. 803 line. While a specific diagnosis has yet to be made, one common denominator has been established. “In general, the buses don’t like the heat,” she told the Monitor. “That tends to be an issue. No bus loves the heat, but these buses have been more problematic in the heat than not. We’re seeing engine wear occur faster on these buses than we would expect it to occur.” According to Watkins, a typical bus that operates roughly 50,000 miles per year can be expected to log between 350,000 to 400,000 miles before its engine needs to be replaced. Several of the MetroRapid engines, however, gave out before they hit 200,000 miles. Along with MV representatives, agency staff has convened biweekly meetings with Nova Bus and Cummins Inc., the maker of the engines, to discuss the problem and explore solutions. Watkins suggested that Nova Bus has a strong business incentive to get the buses back up to snuff. “They want to be able to sell us buses the next time we need to buy them. And we buy buses just about every year,” she said. Indeed, Connections 2025, the agency’s 10-year service plan, calls for the eventual creation of two brand-new MetroRapid lines, which would require a significant expansion of the fleet. But even if Capital Metro snubs Nova Bus for another bus maker, Cummins has little to fear. According to Watkins, the Indiana-based company is the only manufacturer in the entire country that produces transit vehicle engines approved by the federal Environmental Protection Agency.(unquote)
  3. StarMetro Roster Update

    StarMetro is one of the few places where one can see 1st gen Proterra buses!
  4. Proterra

    (quote)The award of contract(s) will be based on negotiating an acceptable agreement, satisfactory to the TTC General Council with the only three qualified long range battery electric bus suppliers, New Flyer, Proterra and BYD that are compliant with Transport Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (unquote) Wowza, sounds like Nova did not have their bus ready in time.
  5. Proterra

    SporTran in Louisiana has 5 new 40 foot Proterra Catalyst E2 buses! Source: http://www.fleetsandfuels.com/fuels/evs/2017/11/proterra-in-louisiana-and-in-california/
  6. New Flyer electric bus

    New name for the XE40 and XE60 buses: The Xcelsior CHARGE™ https://www.newflyer.com/2017/10/new-flyer-unveils-next-generation-electric-transit-bus-xcelsior-charge/
  7. Gillig product discussion

    Thankfully, there is some state and federal funding going for zero emission buses. But I'm sure you are saying its nowhere near enough right now for all of the diesel buses that will need replacing. I know you are right. One thing is that since there is large operating savings to be had, financing is likely to be available for the up front capital cost. Proterra's leasing program (I believe BYD offers the same) is one creative way to help TA's get into the ongoing savings that electric buses provide. https://www.proterra.com/financing/ As more and more fleets turn to diesel, prices are expected to continue to fall rapidly, as they have been doing. It helps that Gillig and others are also getting into battery buses.
  8. Gillig product discussion

    I don't blame you for being skeptical. You make good points, especially since diesel has been relatively cheap since 2014. But consider that all battery buses have none of the maintenance headaches associated with diesel whatsoever. No filters, no exhaust, no fuel lines. And overall I believe the price of electricity for fuel is less than 1/4th that of Diesel right now, even at a time when petroleum products are cheap. Here is one study that concludes the following: "From a financial perspective, the savings associated with fuel (cost of diesel vs. cost of electricity) and with bus maintenance more than offsets the higher cost of electric buses including the cost of the recharging infrastructure over the lifetime of a bus. Typically, electric buses cost about $300k more than diesel buses, and annual savings are estimated at $39k per year over the 12-year lifetime of the bus, excluding health care cost benefits." Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~ja3041/Electric Bus Analysis for NYC Transit by J Aber Columbia University - May 2016.pdf
  9. Gillig product discussion

    As the New Flyer CEO and others have said, the future is in electric buses. I think diesel is on its way out--too polluting and the filter systems are expensive. CNG probably also has a nice future--especially gas made from waste, called RNG. According to the following FTA link: "Gainesville RTS will receive funding to purchase Gillig 40' battery electric buses and depot chargers to replace diesel buses. These buses will be Gainesville RTS's first zero emission buses, and one of the first deployments of the Gillig battery electric bus." Jacksonville is also getting Gillig 40 foot battery electric buses, and so is Honolulu. https://www.transit.dot.gov/funding/grants/fiscal-year-2017-low-or-no-emission-low-no-bus-program-projects
  10. Proterra

    Proterra announced that it has 21 new (plus 8 existing) customers who are buying buses with Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Low or No Emission Vehicle Deployment Grants (Low-No). https://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2017/09/26/CL99160
  11. Proterra

    Story in the LA Times today Proterra claims world record, says its electric bus traveled more than 1,100 miles on a single charge Its Catalyst E2 all-electric bus traveled 1,101.2 miles over a test track on a single charge, the company said. The test was part publicity stunt and part demonstration of the gains made in electric vehicle technology. The longest range Tesla Model S, for example, is rated at 335 miles between charges. No one has ordered the test bus, laden with battery packs totaling 660 kilowatt hours of energy. The top-end Tesla battery pack is 100 kilowatt hours. Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-proterra-range-record-20170919-story.html
  12. WMATA Washington

    Great conversation guys. Here is more on the subject of WMATA and their future plans regarding buses. Sounds like they have no place for more artics. And they would need to upgrade facilities to accomodate electric bus charging. So they need to get after that, but it doesn't sound like they plan to. http://wtop.com/tracking-metro-24-7/2017/09/metros-plans-longer-buses-rebuilding-110-year-old-garage/
  13. SporTran to get 2011 New Flyer CNG Buses

    New report from KTBS highlights service increases and new buses at Sportran! "Sportran will have a fleet of 50 buses and 33 of them will be brand new. Five of the new buses will be all electric. (Proterra electric buses) "We're first in the state and first in the region to have these type buses and operate them," said Washington. (Washington is the CEO) Source: https://www.ktbs.com/community/sportran-getting-new-all-electric-buses/article_60c23a14-999d-11e7-82b9-bbb30ac015e6.html
  14. Proterra

    More details today on Proterra leasing buses to NY MTA: Five Proterra Catalyst® E2 buses that are outfitted with WiFi and USB charging ports. As part of MTA's fleet, Proterra's Catalyst E2 buses will go into service this December and initially serve routes B39 and B32 in Brooklyn, Queens, and Manhattan. The lease program aims to evaluate the combined economic, environmental and performance benefits of deploying an all-electric bus fleet. Over the three-year lease, Proterra expects MTA to reduce 2,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions and save approximately $560,0001 on maintenance and operating costs. The E2 buses are the longest range, biggest battery buses that Proterra offers, and the Proterra website says they can go as far as 350 miles on a charge with the biggest battery. No doubt battery sizes are customizable to suit the buyer. https://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/2017/09/12/CL84662
  15. Proterra

    Proterra Expands its Southeastern Reach as CATbus Acquires its Second Fleet of Battery-Electric Proterra Buses Source: http://www.masstransitmag.com/press_release/12365970/proterra-expands-its-southeastern-reach-as-clemson-area-transit-acquires-its-second-fleet-of-battery-electric-proterra-buses The ten-bus purchase complements the six Proterra buses already servicing the City of Seneca, S.C. that are operated by CATbus. In 2015, Seneca became the first city in the U.S. to operate an all-electric bus fleet and now serves as a model for other municipalities considering all-electric bus transit. Over the past three years, CATbus has played host to transit leadership representing cities throughout North America and Europe who are looking to replicate the Seneca success in their cities. “The FTA likes to see projects that are successful, and with the Seneca project, it's been a total success,” Moody said. “We are building success onto success.”