Mar_AC_23 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 8301 has moved to Queensway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, Editorum said: 8305, 8307 and 8309 has arrived at Queensway 8306 is enroute to Queensway We all thought this series will be glued to Wilson for the entire duration of their lives just like the 9400 Vs. Now don’t kill off the remaining 8000 OGs too quickly. 4 hours ago, Ed T. said: I suppose it's been determined that clearance isn't a problem? Welcome to hand-me-down Wilson garage! Queensway - the senior retirement home for Wilson diesels 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtatransitfanner Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 20 hours ago, Genius101 said: We all thought this series will be glued to Wilson for the entire duration of their lives just like the 9400 Vs. Now don’t kill off the remaining 8000 OGs too quickly. Queensway - the senior retirement home for Wilson diesels What's with you and your negativity towards older but still usable buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 55 minutes ago, gtatransitfanner said: What's with you and your negativity towards older but still usable buses? don't interact with his post cause it causes unnecessary posts. And no matter how many people explain to him the reasons he still does the same nonsense every week at this point everyone should just ignore him and don't reply to his annoying rants about Queensway 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtatransitfanner Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, Young said: don't interact with his post cause it causes unnecessary posts. And no matter how many people explain to him the reasons he still does the same nonsense every week at this point everyone should just ignore him and don't reply to his annoying rants about Queensway lol funny...ikr... honestly if i were him...i would be glad a bus comes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitFan88 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, gtatransitfanner said: lol funny...ikr... honestly if i were him...i would be glad a bus comes... Genius101: “Why doesn’t Queensway ever get any new buses? All they ever get are old handmedowns .” Everyone: “Most new bus orders in recent years have been electric or hybrid with rooftop components adding to overall height and because there are height restrictions at Queensway, they cannot be based there. A good chunk of the older fleet is diesel and lower in height.” Genius101: “But it’s not fair! They deserve new buses! It’s been so long! ” Everyone: “What part of they physically cannot enter/fit in the garage do you not understand?” As comedic and annoying as this is, the reality is Queensway has gotten relatively new equipment in recent years in the form of the LFS diesels which were only a year or two old when they got some of them, but no - for Genius to be satisfied, Queensway has to be the very first stop any new bus makes as soon as it leaves the factory. It also has to remain there, and Queensway has to be the garage to break it in and operate it indefinitely. Even being based out of another division for a day before being sent there would have him render it a “handmedown”. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtatransitfanner Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, TransitFan88 said: Genius101: “Why doesn’t Queensway ever get any new buses? All they ever get are old handmedowns .” Everyone: “Most new bus orders in recent years have been electric or hybrid with rooftop components adding to overall height and because there are height restrictions at Queensway, they cannot be based there. A good chunk of the older fleet is diesel and lower in height.” Genius101: “But it’s not fair! They deserve new buses! It’s been so long! ” Everyone: “What part of they physically cannot enter/fit in the garage do you not understand?” As comedic and annoying as this is, the reality is Queensway has gotten relatively new equipment in recent years in the form of the LFS diesels which were only a year or two old when they got some of them, but no - for Genius to be satisfied, Queensway has to be the very first stop any new bus makes as soon as it leaves the factory. It also has to remain there, and Queensway has to be the garage to break it in and operate it indefinitely. Even being based out of another division for a day before being sent there would have him render it a “handmedown”. For real... These days however, transit agencies often prolong the use of older equipment especially as the costs of buying new equipment soares... I know Queensway themselves got "newer" equipment as well... - Some of the 84xx's and 8600-8617 - Some of the 8620-8964 batch - (as of recently, those 33xx's) ^ this list is already "newer equipment" that was allocated to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editorum Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 On 4/6/2024 at 5:58 PM, Genius101 said: We all thought this series will be glued to Wilson for the entire duration of their lives just like the 9400 Vs. Now don’t kill off the remaining 8000 OGs too quickly. Queensway - the senior retirement home for Wilson diesels Look I don't want hand me downs at Queensway either and I am not complaining like you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenswayOp Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 @Genius101 Newer is not necessarily better. I will take an Orion Diesel from my previous time at Queensway over an XE40 at Arrow Road any day. The XE40s are very sluggish when accelerating, while the Orion Diesels definitely move with a purpose. Don't even get me started on the reliability issues of the XE40s either..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Queensway Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 15 hours ago, QueenswayOp said: @Genius101 Newer is not necessarily better. I will take an Orion Diesel from my previous time at Queensway over an XE40 at Arrow Road any day. The XE40s are very sluggish when accelerating, while the Orion Diesels definitely move with a purpose. Don't even get me started on the reliability issues of the XE40s either..... I always thought the Orions had good performance and reliability from the engines alone. Would be cool if they actually lasted until 2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Downtowner Posted April 9 Author Report Share Posted April 9 On 4/7/2024 at 6:56 PM, gtatransitfanner said: For real... These days however, transit agencies often prolong the use of older equipment especially as the costs of buying new equipment soares... I know Queensway themselves got "newer" equipment as well... - Some of the 84xx's and 8600-8617 - Some of the 8620-8964 batch - (as of recently, those 33xx's) ^ this list is already "newer equipment" that was allocated to them And when Queensway first got the 8000s in late 2007/early 2008 they were barely a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumiko Oumae Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 5 minutes ago, 502 Downtowner said: And when Queensway first got the 8000s in late 2007/early 2008 they were barely a year old. Birchmount also got the 8100s too when it was less than a year old by late 2010/early 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabianColeyLOVESBUSES Posted April 20 Report Share Posted April 20 8310 8312 8313 8314 8315 are now at Queensway Division. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 8311 8316 8319 are enroute to Queensway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 31 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8311 8316 8319 are enroute to Queensway Probably the same 3 operators who took 3317, 3319 and 3321 up to Wilson this evening are driving these EPAs back down to the senior funeral home division 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtrazsteve Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, Genius101 said: Probably the same 3 operators who took 3317, 3319 and 3321 up to Wilson this evening are driving these EPAs back down to the senior funeral home division I'm pretty sure most operators are happy to be driving those Orions than Novas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 44 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8311 8316 8319 are enroute to Queensway 8321 has also moved to Queensway along with the other three units I mentioned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenswayOp Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 10 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said: I'm pretty sure most operators are happy to be driving those Orions than Novas. Myself included. I remember one board period, when I had the 123C in the afternoon peak periods on weekdays (Garage to Garage run). Most of the time, I was assigned the Orion VII, and I managed to not only keep up the pace smoothly, but also arrive @ Kipling Station 7 minutes early and squeeze in 10 minute breaks during the layovers. On the final day of that board period, I was given a Nova for the same run, and holy crap, it was a much harder time keeping up the pace, especially with how the rear doors take so damn long to close on those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 8317 8318 8320 have moved to Queensway 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Editorum Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 8322, 8323, and 8324 is at Queensway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 4 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8317 8318 8320 have moved to Queensway 4 minutes ago, Editorum said: 8322, 8323, and 8324 is at Queensway 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 6 hours ago, QueenswayOp said: Myself included. I remember one board period, when I had the 123C in the afternoon peak periods on weekdays (Garage to Garage run). Most of the time, I was assigned the Orion VII, and I managed to not only keep up the pace smoothly, but also arrive @ Kipling Station 7 minutes early and squeeze in 10 minute breaks during the layovers. On the final day of that board period, I was given a Nova for the same run, and holy crap, it was a much harder time keeping up the pace, especially with how the rear doors take so damn long to close on those things. I'm sure the passengers you left stranded by running 7 minutes hot were also thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenswayOp Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 5 hours ago, T3G said: I'm sure the passengers you left stranded by running 7 minutes hot were also thrilled. Given that I always had a full bus, anyone who was in fact left behind was due to the fact that the bus could not actually take anymore people, not because I was running ahead. If you actually worked in transit, you would have a much clearer understanding of it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 I don't need to work in transit to know that there is never any excuse for a bus to run early. Lateness can't be helped, but there is never any valid justification for running hot. The 123C runs every 12 minutes in the afternoon rush hour, so if the driver of the bus behind you was doing his job properly that would mean that there was no bus for 19 minutes. And that assumes said bus didn't break down, or get caught in traffic, or that its driver wasn't writing a schedule of his own and decided to take a 20 minute long layover because he can. Awesome. What a good transit system we have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenswayOp Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 27 minutes ago, T3G said: I don't need to work in transit to know that there is never any excuse for a bus to run early. Lateness can't be helped, but there is never any valid justification for running hot. The 123C runs every 12 minutes in the afternoon rush hour, so if the driver of the bus behind you was doing his job properly that would mean that there was no bus for 19 minutes. And that assumes said bus didn't break down, or get caught in traffic, or that its driver wasn't writing a schedule of his own and decided to take a 20 minute long layover because he can. Awesome. What a good transit system we have. Did you miss the part where I said that my bus was always full? Not to mention, at that time of day, the run schedule was padded, in addition to the only safe spot to even pull over being Sherway Gardens. I never sped, and didn't even have to try hard to hustle to finish the trip early. It happened regardless with myself following the speed limit, going according to the traffic conditions, and still picking up enough people to have a full bus. If you want to be a perfectionist prima-donna, be my guest, but in the real world, nothing is perfect like you aspire for it to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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