T3G Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: No need to quote me three times to get a response. I'll respond when I can. Indeed. And on the opposite side of the spectrum, I do not think it's helpful to state when one last saw a bus, in lieu of a last day of operation. Frequently the case is that the bus made it out in service again afterwards. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 10 Author Report Share Posted April 10 Usually I use Transsee's tracking history to see when buses were last "in service" but even that isn't always accurate all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 13 Author Report Share Posted April 13 1416 is being donated to Centennial College. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5242 Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 8 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 1416 is being donated to Centennial College. Interesting, I'm surprised they didn't scrap it, this is the first donation in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 13 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 1416 is being donated to Centennial College. Do they still have 1615 or will 1416 replace it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 16 Author Report Share Posted April 16 8049 has been decommissioned. 8100 is now retired and has been decommissioned. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 33 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8100 is now retired and has been decommissioned. Whoa I remember riding this bus on the 15 for free back on NYE in a not so sober mood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumiko Oumae Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 41 minutes ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8049 has been decommissioned. 8100 is now retired and has been decommissioned. RIP 8100 January 27, 2010 — April 15, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3G Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Are the 8100s in worse shape than the 8000s or even the hybrids? At last count that's six 81s that have been put out to pasture now, which is rather significant for a fleet that's not supposed to be retiring en masse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8100 is now retired and has been decommissioned. What happened to it? Are they really doing this to make way for electric buses? At this point there's no way the NG diesels aren't slowly in the process of retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 On 3/27/2024 at 11:04 AM, T3G said: Many of the current hybrids have already entered service, though. Quick glance at our wiki shows 124 outstanding: 37 Novas, 19 New Flyer rigids, 68 New Flyer artics. If we assume that these will replace a similar quantity of Orions still left behind, let's estimate, 160? due to the higher capacity of the artics (no idea if those numbers track), that would still leave you with 348 Orions. This is not enough to do even a 1 to 1 replacement, never mind, as you yourself pointed out, increasing the spare ratio as they can't last in service as long as the diesels. I must ask again if there is any official confirmation that the 2015-16 Novas are going to be killed off in the near term. That seems like an astonishingly shortsighted plan. I do not think we are so well off in this country that the money to replace ~220 low floor, air conditioned buses that are not even a decade old couldn't be put to far better use. You guys forgot another factor in this calculation. Lines 5 and 6 should come online by Dec 2024 which according to Steve's article a few years back, should reduce (if memory serves) 75-100 buses. Then there's less streetcar replacement buses needed now VS a few years ago. They can just retire this amount without a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 You would think they would get rid of the Orion Hybrids first before the 8100s. The LRTs, despite no opening date, shouldn't affect the bus fleet just yet, untill both lines are open. And the 33xx soon to be going through rebuild in mass. i believe it was already noted several months ago,TTC had a surplus of buses. And 340 ebuses about to start deliveries. So I guess the can get rid of more buses without it affecting their service 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah bey Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 I am 95% sure that 1000's will last a little bit longer then the 8000's Also 8015, 8017, 8018, 8019, 8031, 8048, 8054, 8078 and 8086 might be next for retirement 8019 and 8078 are at Willson 8015, 8018, 8031 and 8054 are at North queen. 8017, 8048, 8086 haven't been tracking in a while 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerD901 Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 29 minutes ago, Elijah bey said: I am 95% sure that 1000's will last a little bit longer then the 8000's Also 8015, 8017, 8018, 8019, 8031, 8048, 8054, 8078 and 8086 might be next for retirement 8019 and 8078 are at Willson 8015, 8018, 8031 and 8054 are at North queen. 8017, 8048, 8086 haven't been tracking in a while Some units at Wilson, might be just helping Queensway out with repairs and not actually retirement. Wilson also has a bunch of 8100s. They even have 7200s there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 18 Author Report Share Posted April 18 8015 8018 8031 8054 are officially retired 8018 is being decommissioned today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 20 Author Report Share Posted April 20 Disregard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genius101 Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 So once the 8000s are completely gone Queensway's over the hill aging fleet will probably look something like this: NG Diesels - 8100-8219 - (minus the few retired units) EPA10 1st batch - 8300-8334 (35 units) LFS Novas 3317-3369 (53 units) Could also get more EPAs from the 2nd batch or 3300-3316. Perhaps some 3200s will temporarily migrate when the 3300s start rebuilding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah bey Posted April 21 Report Share Posted April 21 39 minutes ago, Genius101 said: So once the 8000s are completely gone Queensway's over the hill aging fleet will probably look something like this: NG Diesels - 8100-8219 - (minus the few retired units) EPA10 1st batch - 8300-8334 (35 units) LFS Novas 3317-3369 (53 units) Could also get more EPAs from the 2nd batch or 3300-3316. Perhaps some 3200s will temporarily migrate when the 3300s start rebuilding. 2010 NG Orion 8100-8219 8101-8104, 8106-8107, 8109-8174, 8176- 8182, 8184-8207, 8209-8219 114 Units 2011 Orion EPA 10 8300-8334 35 units Nova bus lfs 3317-3369 53 in total 202 units 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 23 Author Report Share Posted April 23 8015 and 8054 are being decommissioned today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 When I was in Toronto on Saturday afternoon, buses 8084 and 8094 made their way onto the Line 2 shuttles. It was nice to see them in service in the east end. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah bey Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Chris W said: When I was in Toronto on Saturday afternoon, buses 8084 and 8094 made their way onto the Line 2 shuttles. It was nice to see them in service in the east end. Here's 1022 as well 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bus_7246 Posted April 24 Report Share Posted April 24 15 hours ago, Mar_AC_23 said: 8015 and 8054 are being decommissioned today 8015 has been decommissioned at Mt Dennis. 8054 is in the repair bay, waiting to be decommissioned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar_AC_23 Posted April 24 Author Report Share Posted April 24 1024 is now retired 8031 was decommissioned at MtD today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM 1258 is retired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted Friday at 12:58 AM Report Share Posted Friday at 12:58 AM 1351 1366 are units to watch out for. 1366s been experiencing issues lately too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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