TheAverageJoe Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 You have too many new looks at the end of 2007. There are a little bit less than 277 in service now and 70 are suppose to be retired next year which leaves at most 207 in service at the end of this year. There will not be any fishbowls at Mount Dennis, it doesn't make any sense to stockpile parts for fishbowls there given that they will not be there long term. Since you have way too many fishbowls in service anyway. I think that there will be a little over 50 fishbowls at Wilson and Mt. Dennis will be all Orion VII. As I said earlier there will be no fishbowls at Mt. Dennis and you have probably about 40-50 fishbowls too many at end of 2008 since 70 are gone this year and definetely more than 25 will be gone in 2008. Well there will be some Classics and D40 left right? but about how many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Well there will be some Classics and D40 left right? but about how many? No, all of them (Classics & D40HFs) are suppose to be retired this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Updated again to show the Newlook retirements End of 2007 After Mount Dennis Opens Arrow Rd 1000-1149 - 150 7620-7699 - 80 7200-7251 - 52 TOTAL = 282 100% Accessible Birchmount 7760-7881 - 122 6640-6745 - 106 TOTAL - 228 54% Accessible Eglinton 7400-7619 - 220 7700-7759 -60 TOTAL = 280 100% Accessible Malvern 7000-7134 - 135 Newlooks - 150 TOTAL = 285 47% Accessible Mount Dennis 1300-1423 - 124 Newlooks - 40 TOTAL = 170 73% Accessible Queensway 1200-1299 - 100 7300-7350 - 51 TOTAL = 151 100% Accessible Wilson 9400-9449 - 50 7900-7979 - 80 8000-8099 - 100 Newlooks - 30 TOTAL = 260 88% Accessible End of 2007 Fleet Total 1656 220 Newlooks left in 2007 a decrease of 57 Newlooks over 2006 80% Total Accessible 2008 After the the 1500-1639 are here Arrow Rd 1000-1149 - 150 1310-1329 - 20 7640-7699 - 60 7200-7251 - 52 TOTAL = 282 100% Accessible Birchmount 7750-7881 - 132 6640-6745- 106 TOTAL - 238 55% Accessible Eglinton 7400-7639- 240 7700-7749 -50 TOTAL = 290 100% Accessible Malvern 7000-7134 - 135 Newlooks - 95 1571-1639 - 68 TOTAL = 298 68% Accessible Mount Dennis 1330-1423 - 94 1500-1570- 71 Newlooks - 20 TOTAL = 185 89% Accessible Queensway 1200-1309 - 110 7300-7350 - 51 TOTAL = 161 100% Accessible Wilson 7900-7979 - 80 8000-8099 - 100 9400-9449 - 50 Newlooks - 30 TOTAL = 260 90% Accessible 2008 Fleet total 1714 an increase of 58 buses over 2007 85% Total Accessible 145 Newlooks left a decrease of 75 Newlooks in 2008 thats 132 Newlooks being retired in 2007 and 2008 All the D40HF,Classics and D901 would be gone in 2007-2008 The current fleet would pretty much stay as is with not too much being moved around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Downtowner Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 it would make no sence to move the D40s to Malvern when they will be caned this year anyways how realistic is mine guys????? Once again, just my opinion. Besides, the D901's and the 2000's were supposed to be gone by the end of last year and 19 D901's and 2017/2153 have made it to here, so you never know. And once again, my plan to move the D40-89's to Malvern also coincided with the plan that all New Flyer material leave Queensway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Once again, just my opinion. Besides, the D901's and the 2000's were supposed to be gone by the end of last year and 19 D901's and 2017/2153 have made it to here, so you never know. And once again, my plan to move the D40-89's to Malvern also coincided with the plan that all New Flyer material leave Queensway. Wouldnt make sence to move New flyers again at this time, besides Queensway is the best garage to handle New Flyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Downtowner Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Wouldnt make sence to move New flyers again at this time, besides Queensway is the best garage to handle New Flyers I'm going to have a crack at this, partly because I'm very bored and partly because my opinion matches just about nobody else's, it's a little more radical, I'm only doing 2007 as well, because the chances of any of us nailing 2008 is one in a million. Once again, just my opinion. If I haven't made it clear already, I was making one for fun, one that was a little more radical, it wasn't an actual prediction. As for radical changes, you never know when they'll happen, on Canada Day 2005 (I only remember this day because I was out of town) somebody made a thread saying that it was rumoured that the 91 V's would be slowly moving to Queensway starting in August. That sparked a massive number of posts stating how unlikely that was and sure enough on August 2nd (also the day of the Air France crash), 6741-45 moved to Queensway (which was also hotly debated), and look at us now. Anything is possible, it's ok to explore the what-if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandvictory2 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 If I haven't made it clear already, I was making one for fun, one that was a little more radical, it wasn't an actual prediction. As for radical changes, you never know when they'll happen, on Canada Day 2005 (I only remember this day because I was out of town) somebody made a thread saying that it was rumoured that the 91 V's would be slowly moving to Queensway starting in August. That sparked a massive number of posts stating how unlikely that was and sure enough on August 2nd (also the day of the Air France crash), 6741-45 moved to Queensway (which was also hotly debated), and look at us now. Anything is possible, it's ok to explore the what-if. I believe d40 and d40lf share common parts. Having said that it is economical to keep them in the same facility (assuming d40 will not be retired near in the future). The reason d901 are still alive because Orion failed to deliever their buses on schedule (based on what I heard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I believe d40 and d40lf share common parts. Having said that it is economical to keep them in the same facility (assuming d40 will not be retired near in the future). The reason d901 are still alive because Orion failed to deliever their buses on schedule (based on what I heard) I doubt that there are any common parts between the D40LF and the D40HF as they are completely different buses. The D901s were kept because the TTC needed buses for the St. Clair shuttle buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I doubt that there are any common parts between the D40LF and the D40HF as they are completely different buses. The D901s were kept because the TTC needed buses for the St. Clair shuttle buses. Which has mostly ended so we should start seeing the getting retired soon as the 8000's start arriving in the next month or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Classic 6247 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Which has mostly ended so we should start seeing the getting retired soon as the 8000's start arriving in the next month or two? According to Richard their renewal lasts up to April. Whether they may still go beyond that, we will have to wait and see as nothing is for certain. At this point the 1985 D901s are certainly the longest serving Flyers in the history of the TTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 According to Richard their renewal lasts up to April. Whether they may still go beyond that, we will have to wait and see as nothing is for certain. At this point the 1985 D901s are certainly the longest serving Flyers in the history of the TTC. Well those D901 are better then the D40 for sure any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Which has mostly ended so we should start seeing the getting retired soon as the 8000's start arriving in the next month or two? The St. Clair shuttle will return in the summer to the full route if not from St.Clair West Stn to Keele when construction starts between Vaughan and Calidonia so some extra buses will be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The St. Clair shuttle will return in the summer to the full route if not from St.Clair West Stn to Keele when construction starts between Vaughan and Calidonia so some extra buses will be needed. Could mean the best of the Classics and D40's may have to be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 wow this topic died fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenerlrt Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 This may seem like a really stupid question, but I always wondered what the two little blue lights on TTC buses are for? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40-90 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 This may seem like a really stupid question, but I always wondered what the two little blue lights on TTC buses are for? Thanks It's to show that the buses are wheelchair accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 This may seem like a really stupid question, but I always wondered what the two little blue lights on TTC buses are for? Thanks They mean that the bus is accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenerlrt Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 It's to show that the buses are wheelchair accessible. Thanks busfreak and Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Downtowner Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Something a little radical that I just thought of was perhaps sending 180 1200's to Malvern (for a growth of 45 accessible buses) and sending all of the V's at Malvern to Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's and send the 91 V's back to Birchmount. Queensway would then be 100% accessible. I personally would rather see Queensway get VII's, but anything to fend off against D40LF's would be welcomed. This plan is probably too tedious, but I thought I'd lay it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Something a little radical that I just thought of was perhaps sending 180 1200's to Malvern (for a growth of 45 accessible buses) and sending all of the V's at Malvern to Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's and send the 91 V's back to Birchmount. Queensway would then be 100% accessible. I personally would rather see Queensway get VII's, but anything to fend off against D40LF's would be welcomed. This plan is probably too tedious, but I thought I'd lay it out there. Makes more since to have new buses at Malvern to replace the fishes and at Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Something a little radical that I just thought of was perhaps sending 180 1200's to Malvern (for a growth of 45 accessible buses) and sending all of the V's at Malvern to Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's and send the 91 V's back to Birchmount. Queensway would then be 100% accessible. I personally would rather see Queensway get VII's, but anything to fend off against D40LF's would be welcomed. I think the Orion V's at Malvern will stay there till retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
502 Downtowner Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Makes more since to have new buses at Malvern to replace the fishes and at Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's That's basically what I'm trying to do. Besides, I think the TTC will want to have one division VII-free (and of course it has to be Queensway :angry:) in order to satisfy many of the older drivers who want nothing to do with low-floor buses. Normally I would expect the TTC to tell drivers "too bad," these are the buses you're driving, but with operator numbers so low, I wouldn't be surprised if one division was left free of VII's. I have spoken to many Queensway drivers who live in the east end and only work at Queensway to avoid VII's (Malvern is supposedly full). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I think the Orion V's at Malvern will stay there till retirement. Dont high floors any ways work better for half or Malverns routes anyways, than low floors> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wil9402 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Something a little radical that I just thought of was perhaps sending 180 1200's to Malvern (for a growth of 45 accessible buses) and sending all of the V's at Malvern to Queensway to replace the D40-88/89's and send the 91 V's back to Birchmount. Queensway would then be 100% accessible. I personally would rather see Queensway get VII's, but anything to fend off against D40LF's would be welcomed. This plan is probably too tedious, but I thought I'd lay it out there. The Vs are more useful at Malvern since Malvern has more high ridership accessible routes (53, 39, 85) that would benifit more form HF accessible buses, since more people will fit on the bus because the passengers would actually move all the way to the back unlike on an LF bus where they stop at the rear doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Engineer Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 The Vs are more useful at Malvern since Malvern has more high ridership accessible routes (53, 39, 85) that would benifit more form HF accessible buses, since more people will fit on the bus because the passengers would actually move all the way to the back unlike on an LF bus where they stop at the rear doors. Thats not always true. I get HFs on my Highschool special all the time, and the first place a crowd forms is at the back door. Most people dont go all the way to the very back to stand. LFs are the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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