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Subwayboy

Subwayboy

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Where'd you hear this?

Doubt it. Unless there were some seriously unfixable flaws with both sets.

I was just searching the web for the most recent news about the Toronto Rocket and I clicked the first thing that came up and it was WIKIPEDIA

MT0603

MT0603

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Well, there's your answer.

Funny, I just checked the wikipedia page and there's no mention of this at all...for the fleet numbers it even says 5386-6076.
MT0603

MT0603

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keep on scrolling down till

Toronto Rocket (T35A08)

ant there will be a list of the TR's that are in service

Yes, we've read that, however the source for the fleet numbers still read 5386-6076.
D. DeLarge

D. DeLarge

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And if it were true, they would have shipped 5392-5395 back to Thunder Bay a while ago, instead of leaving them around Wilson and just shipping 5391 and 5396 back for modifications.

Somebody probably misinterpreted some information or made some incorrect assumptions on that page. Until someone in the know verifies it, treat it as incorrect information.

Subwayboy

Subwayboy

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And if it were true, they would have shipped 5392-5395 back to Thunder Bay a while ago, instead of leaving them around Wilson and just shipping 5391 and 5396 back for modifications.

Somebody probably misinterpreted some information or made some incorrect assumptions on that page. Until someone in the know verifies it, treat it as incorrect information.

Ok thanks.

smallspy

smallspy

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The one thing I'd like see fixed if possible is the dammed gap, the height of train vs, platform gap....

Out of curiosity Emily, how big exactly is the gap?

Dan

eja2k

eja2k

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Out of curiosity Emily, how big exactly is the gap?

Perhaps we should ask someone to issue all the regular spotters who post their daily trip reports on here... RULERS... so while hunting the retiring H5s, and the newest TRs they can also document and report back to us on the platform gaps!

(Sarcasm clearly intended :P)

D. DeLarge

D. DeLarge

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Perhaps we should ask the someone to issue all the regular spotters who post their daily trip reports on here... RULERS... so while hunting the retiring H5s, and the newest TRs they can also document and report back to us on the platform gaps!

(Sarcasm clearly intended :P)

So, uh, do we measure the first car, last car and middle car lengths? Think about the slight variations across an entire platform! :P

Turtle

Turtle

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The one thing I'd like see fixed if possible is the dammed gap, the height of train vs, platform gap, its driving me bananas,

A thought crossed my mind today. That space on the TR between the cars (accordion joints) on the exterior "protected" by the red bungee cord-isn't that a danger to somebody with limited sight? With Hawkers and T1s, you have a fairly substantial metal bumper preventing people from falling between cars, but the TRs don't have anything solid there which would indicate to someone using a cane not to go that way.

Is that even a concern?

63 Ossington

63 Ossington

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A thought crossed my mind today. That space on the TR between the cars (accordion joints) on the exterior "protected" by the red bungee cord-isn't that a danger to somebody with limited sight? With Hawkers and T1s, you have a fairly substantial metal bumper preventing people from falling between cars, but the TRs don't have anything solid there which would indicate to someone using a cane not to go that way.

Is that even a concern?

Is that the purpose of those? Never figured out what their role was on the train.

D. DeLarge

D. DeLarge

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Is that the purpose of those? Never figured out what their role was on the train.

Yep, the end gates prevent people on the platforms from falling between the cars at stations...or trying to ride between cars. :P

smallspy

smallspy

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A thought crossed my mind today. That space on the TR between the cars (accordion joints) on the exterior "protected" by the red bungee cord-isn't that a danger to somebody with limited sight? With Hawkers and T1s, you have a fairly substantial metal bumper preventing people from falling between cars, but the TRs don't have anything solid there which would indicate to someone using a cane not to go that way.

Is that even a concern?

There is only about a foot or so - maybe less - between the edge of a platform and the exterior of the inter-car walkway. You would be very hard-pressed to get someone to squeeze through that space.

On top of that, the end gates on the older stock do not come all of the way down to the edge of the platform, leaving a gap of 8 or 10 inches. While that isn't nearly enough to allow someone to slide through it could cause problems to visually-impared people who require the use of a cane - and yet, I can't recall it ever being an issue.

Dan

Turtle

Turtle

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There is only about a foot or so - maybe less - between the edge of a platform and the exterior of the inter-car walkway. You would be very hard-pressed to get someone to squeeze through that space.

Yes, about a foot between the solid platform edge and flexible bungee cord, which I could slide down through. My squishy bits might slow me down a little, but the rest of me would pass. I doubt that bungee cord is strong enough to hold the weight of an adult.

With a cane, what would the difference feel like: a crowded doorway with bags, people, ... and that inter-car space on the exterior of the tr?

On top of that, the end gates on the older stock do not come all of the way down to the edge of the platform, leaving a gap of 8 or 10 inches. While that isn't nearly enough to allow someone to slide through it could cause problems to visually-impared people who require the use of a cane - and yet, I can't recall it ever being an issue.

Dan

At least with the hawkers and t1s, somebody feeling around with a cane will get a nice solid clunk on those bumpers, that gap on the tr will give them vagueness until about 2 feet in when they tap on the "accordion" part of the joint. That area is almost large enough to be a doorway on a hawker.

Ed T.

Ed T.

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It's time to get out of the habit of hurrying along the platform, trying to get to your desired end of the train, while it's pulling into the station. With the TR, just take a walk (and it can be a long walk) once aboard.

Of course this requires a non-rush-hour train. I have been on a few rush hour TRs and it's work enough just to squeeze aboard. There is no earthly way you could make your way along the length of the train.

Have skateboarders discovered the TRs? It seems that with the acceleration and braking, they could have a nifty time whizzing back and forth.

smallspy

smallspy

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Yes, about a foot between the solid platform edge and flexible bungee cord, which I could slide down through. My squishy bits might slow me down a little, but the rest of me would pass. I doubt that bungee cord is strong enough to hold the weight of an adult.

With a cane, what would the difference feel like: a crowded doorway with bags, people, ... and that inter-car space on the exterior of the tr?

You're thinking vertically - I'm thinking horizontally. There isn't a whole lot of distance from the edge of the side of the cars to the exterior of the gangways.

But you're right in that a bungee 2 feet up isn't going to do a whole whack of a difference. Maybe they should put one down close to the platform height, and one or two vertical ones tieing them all together.

At least with the hawkers and t1s, somebody feeling around with a cane will get a nice solid clunk on those bumpers, that gap on the tr will give them vagueness until about 2 feet in when they tap on the "accordion" part of the joint. That area is almost large enough to be a doorway on a hawker.

Except that the cane is used on the ground, not two feet in the air. Thus the problem.

If we want to consider it a problem anyways. I've never heard of or seen anyone with a problem there.

Dan

Bus_Medic

Bus_Medic

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I suppose anyone willing could purchase a few, obviously with some tweaks to suit their peticular needs.

No two properties are alike. (car dimensions being the most obvious)

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