raidercom Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Highway 7 west service will never be sucessful as long as it has to jog through York University. I will only ever take it on Sundays if I miss 77 and need to get to work urgently (or don't have any tickets on me, long live freeva). The transfer (or even just the detour time during peak hours) will easily add 15-20 minutes to your travel time.What I propose: Cut frequency in half on both Viva Purple and Viva Orange Cancel Viva Purple Peak Service Launch new service, Viva (insert unused colour here), bypassing York University, from (hopefully one day) Cornell to Martin Grove.... using the buses cut from Purple and Orange. Cost Recovery would go up, i guarentee it. No offense, but do you realize how many students use VIVA to get to York University? A LOT more people than use VIVA purple or Orange to martin Grove... During (3-5), the buses are normally packed to the roof with no room for 1 more person leaving York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptrider Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 No offense, but do you realize how many students use VIVA to get to York University? A LOT more people than use VIVA purple or Orange to martin Grove...During (3-5), the buses are normally packed to the roof with no room for 1 more person leaving York. totally agree w/ this!!! Im one of the victims Some ppl suggested for 60-feet viva but unfortunately they are only used on Yonge -_-lll they really need to improve off-peak services b/t York U and Richmond Hill Centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rocket 191 Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Highway 7 west service will never be sucessful as long as it has to jog through York University. I will only ever take it on Sundays if I miss 77 and need to get to work urgently (or don't have any tickets on me, long live freeva). The transfer (or even just the detour time during peak hours) will easily add 15-20 minutes to your travel time.What I propose: Cut frequency in half on both Viva Purple and Viva Orange Cancel Viva Purple Peak Service Launch new service, Viva (insert unused colour here), bypassing York University, from (hopefully one day) Cornell to Martin Grove.... using the buses cut from Purple and Orange. Cost Recovery would go up, i guarentee it. Make a new Viva line and have it run from Promenade Trml to Martin Grove running only along Hwy 7. YRT's already doing that... sorta. When the subway opens to Vaughan Corporate Centre, VIVA Orange will terminate at VCC Station, while VIVA Purple will stay on Highway 7 between Keele and Jane, serve VCC, then terminate at 407 Transitway. Perhaps VIVA Orange should be replaced with Brampton's Acceleride, as half of the Acceleride program has already quietly faded into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 YRT's already doing that... sorta.When the subway opens to Vaughan Corporate Centre, VIVA Orange will terminate at VCC Station, while VIVA Purple will stay on Highway 7 between Keele and Jane, serve VCC, then terminate at 407 Transitway. Maybe VIVA Orange should be eliminated, and full Purple service extended to Martin Grove (connect with VCC Stn only, or jog down to 407 Transitway Stn). This would be more useful, and save more buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Engineer Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 YRT's already doing that... sorta.When the subway opens to Vaughan Corporate Centre, VIVA Orange will terminate at VCC Station, while VIVA Purple will stay on Highway 7 between Keele and Jane, serve VCC, then terminate at 407 Transitway. Perhaps VIVA Orange should be replaced with Brampton's Acceleride, as half of the Acceleride program has already quietly faded into obscurity. VIVA orange is being extended to Hwy 50 because BT AcceleRide will only go to Hwy 50. This will create a direct transfer from York to BT land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt+viva=1system Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 VIVA orange is being extended to Hwy 50 because BT AcceleRide will only go to Hwy 50. This will create a direct transfer from York to BT land. yea thats what i heard from my friend at head office, supposely go is building a terminal there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 VIVA orange is being extended to Hwy 50 because BT AcceleRide will only go to Hwy 50. This will create a direct transfer from York to BT land. They should have just interlined it / joint operated it like they do with the 77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LF60 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 They should have just interlined it / joint operated it like they do with the 77 they still could/might but IMO only if BT bus Van Hools, which they might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 they still could/might but IMO only if BT bus Van Hools, which they might do. I dont think they wanted to interline and it wouldnt matter if BT dont get Van Hools as long as the have buses with BRT specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I dont think they wanted to interline and it wouldnt matter if BT dont get Van Hools as long as the have buses with BRT specs They can paint have their LFS operate the BRT like what GRT is doing with their iXpress. The LFS resembles a A330 anyways. If BT painted a LFS in a special BRT scheme, the majority of the public will not know it's a regular bus. Perhaps, upgrade the seats on it too and add auto announcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 They can paint have their LFS operate the BRT like what GRT is doing with their iXpress. The LFS resembles a A330 anyways. If BT painted a LFS in a special BRT scheme, the majority of the public will not know it's a regular bus. Perhaps, upgrade the seats on it too and add auto announcements. do they want to operate the system as a POP like Viva or just collect fares on buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LF60 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 yes, that's my guess for what'll happen. but I also think the terminal on HWY50 will have a schedule so that both YRT and BT busses show up and leave at the same time. EG 12:25 they both are scheduled to show and 12:30 they are both susposed to leave, that way you can transfer easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 yes, that's my guess for what'll happen. but I also think the terminal on HWY50 will have a schedule so that both YRT and BT busses show up and leave at the same time. EG 12:25 they both are scheduled to show and 12:30 they are both susposed to leave, that way you can transfer easily I can see the complains now as the people miss their bus when they go to transfer and one is early or late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rocket 191 Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 yes, that's my guess for what'll happen. but I also think the terminal on HWY50 will have a schedule so that both YRT and BT busses show up and leave at the same time. EG 12:25 they both are scheduled to show and 12:30 they are both susposed to leave, that way you can transfer easily The whole point of the GTTA is to make transit more integrated and convenient for passengers. If you'll have to transfer between Acceleride and VIVA Orange to get to the subway, then, IMO, the GTTA is in dereliction of its duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 The whole point of the GTTA is to make transit more integrated and convenient for passengers. If you'll have to transfer between Acceleride and VIVA Orange to get to the subway, then, IMO, the GTTA is in dereliction of its duty. they need to interline it like the 77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt+viva=1system Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 The whole point of the GTTA is to make transit more integrated and convenient for passengers. If you'll have to transfer between Acceleride and VIVA Orange to get to the subway, then, IMO, the GTTA is in dereliction of its duty. the questions is, how will passengers react to a third zone? and the issue of transfers. and so far the GTTA has done zilch about intergrating transit...my bet is that intergration will happen 10 years or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Engineer Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 The whole point of the GTTA is to make transit more integrated and convenient for passengers. If you'll have to transfer between Acceleride and VIVA Orange to get to the subway, then, IMO, the GTTA is in dereliction of its duty. I agree that AcceleRide and VIVA Orange should be interlined like the 77. To do this, BT will have to use the same technology as VIVA, and in turn, MT would also need to use the same technology for future BRT integration. That's where the GTTA steps in, which it hasnt yet. Im not sure what's going on with the GTTA, because its been around for almost a year now, and the only thing we've heard outta them is announcements for the positions within the organization. It doesnt make sense. I hope the GTTA is working with the Libs to plan this Move Ontario 2020 thing properly. If not, we are in for another form of patch work IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T15111 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Today my dad told me 7204 got hint from behind by a van. Brand new bus in an accident already body work to be done. Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt304 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 all 72xx except 03 and 04 were out today and yes i need 03 to complete the 72xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 all 72xx except 03 and 04 were out today and yes i need 03 to complete the 72xx Really like your avatar! Orion Vs all the way man! Especially the express! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt304 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Really like your avatar! Orion Vs all the way man! Especially the express! welcome aboard the V Bandwagon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt+viva=1system Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 welcome aboard the V Bandwagon! woot woot!! YRT express orion v!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivablue5215 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 woot woot!! YRT express orion v!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto!!! Now GO, can you please sell us your 20xx Vs, so we can operate the Vs on LOCAL routes? BTW according to TTC_7084, 5204 (the bus with the ledge that's about to break any day now) broke down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrt304 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Ditto!!! Now GO, can you please sell us your 20xx Vs, so we can operate the Vs on LOCAL routes? BTW according to TTC_7084, 5204 (the bus with the ledge that's about to break any day now) broke down? it never reappeared at Finch although it said Bernard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Ditto!!! Now GO, can you please sell us your 20xx Vs, so we can operate the Vs on LOCAL routes? BTW according to TTC_7084, 5204 (the bus with the ledge that's about to break any day now) broke down? Since GO has budgeted their Vs to last 12 years, I hope they sell them to YRT instead of retiring those perfectly good buses. V Subs operating alongside V Exps, man! Probably the only thing keeping me in GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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