Shaun Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I guess that new equipment can't come soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 That "new equipment" is only going to be replacing rolling stock on the Corridor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Is it possible to rebuild the HEP I and II cars to use them on the ocean once they procure new equipment for the corridor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfirenet Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Shaun said: Is it possible to rebuild the HEP I and II cars to use them on the ocean once they procure new equipment for the corridor? The plan is to rebuild the HEP 1 cars because of their iconic value on the Canadian. The HEP 2 cars don't have that same iconic value and thus aren't worth the cost of another life extension to say nothing about the additional cost of rebuilding their interiors for service on the Ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 How many HEP I cars do we have? Why rebuild HEP I cars and not HEP II. Just because of historical significance? If we need more equipment, why not rebuild the HEP II cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfil Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Sleeper cars 8305, 8307, 8013, 8017, 8030, 8032 are currently being repaired at Rail GD in New Richmond, aiming to fix the damage caused by excessively low temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfirenet Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Shaun said: If we need more equipment, why not rebuild the HEP II cars. Because some of them are pushing 3/4 of a century old. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Or to put it another way, they are "reaching the end of their useful lives". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfirenet Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, Doppelkupplung said: Or to put it another way, they are "reaching the end of their useful lives". To the point that we're getting deep into Theseus's paradox territory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, skyfirenet said: To the point that we're getting deep into Theseus's paradox territory. very applicable here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 16 hours ago, skyfirenet said: The HEP 2 cars don't have that same iconic value and thus aren't worth the cost of another life extension to say nothing about the additional cost of rebuilding their interiors for service on the Ocean. It has nothing to do with their historic value. The HEP 2s are structurally in far, far worse shape than the HEP 1s are. And it's not just that they are older cars - they are - but also because their heritage is so much more varied, and their upkeep wasn't as good for periods of time in their various histories. Several of the cars are suffering from side sill damage, which is not really repairable on a Budd car. Dan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I guess all of the circus cars where picked up? Could they not take on additional cars for use on the ocean when submitting the tender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyfirenet Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Shaun said: I guess all of the circus cars where picked up? You know, if you are going to throw out ideas regarding used cars for service out east, at least ask about the ones put out of service by the Amtrak Viewliner II program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Is the retired Amtrak heritage equipment in storage? What condition are they in? Is it a mish mash of different equipment or was it procured specifically for Amtrak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 10:12 PM, Shaun said: I guess all of the circus cars where picked up? Could they not take on additional cars for use on the ocean when submitting the tender? The Circus cars went to North Carolina. If VIA could partner with Amtrak on a new Superliner order for west-of-Toronto service, some or all of the remaining single-level fleet could be consolidated to Montreal/East. 19 hours ago, Shaun said: Is the retired Amtrak heritage equipment in storage? What condition are they in? Is it a mish mash of different equipment or was it procured specifically for Amtrak? My recollection is that Amtrak's remaining heritage stock was in worse shape than VIA's (like the HEP2s, of various origins and maintenance regimes). The heritage bags and diners have been replaced by Viewliner II. If there was anything of any use North Carolina would probably have looked to buy it rather than the circus cars. VIA could go down to CAF looking for some Viewliners of course but we might be all dead of old age by the time they got here given how long Amtrak's order has dragged on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I dont think Superliners can fit in Montreal Central station, and they dont have high platform boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 What part of Montreal is west of Toronto? Dan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfil Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Shaun said: I dont think Superliners can fit in Montreal Central station, and they dont have high platform boarding. If Skyline fit in Gare Centrale, Superliners can. You are mistaking the tunnel with the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowlingm Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 5 hours ago, webfil said: If Skyline fit in Gare Centrale, Superliners can. You are mistaking the tunnel with the station. Superliners have low doors only and Centrale high platforms only. But, as Dan pointed out, I wasn't considering notional VIA Superliners operating there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allandale25 Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Announcement today. Article here in the Hill Times. Transport Minister Marc Garneau is announcing today in Etobicoke that the government will be replacing the current fleet of Via Rail trains operating in the populous Windsor to Quebec City corridor, as detailed in the 2018 budget. The new trains are expected by 2022. Mr. Garneau will make the announcement at Via Rail’s Toronto maintenance centre at 10 a.m., alongside the Crown corporation’s president and CEO, Yves Desjardins-Siciliano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allandale25 Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Here's the news release. Copied below in full. VIA Rail’s fleet to be replaced in the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor News release From Transport Canada March 19, 2018 Etobicoke, Ontario Transport Canada The Government of Canada is building on its successful long-term plan that focuses on people and on the things that matter most to Canadians, including a good transportation system. Canadians in all region benefit from travelling in a passenger rail fleet that is efficient, safe, accessible and affordable. To keep Canada’s travel system competitive and efficient, the Honourable Marc Garneau, Minister of Transport today announced that the Government of Canada will provide funding for VIA Rail to replace its fleet in the Quebec City-Windsor Corridor. As it is reaching the end of its useful life, the fleet in this corridor must be replaced to help maintain passenger safety for the next 30 years. The new fleet will also: reduce environmental impacts as engines with the latest technology will be more fuel-efficient resulting in air quality improvements; improve travellers’ experience and accessibility by including visual communication media for hearing-impaired passengers; purpose-built accessible washrooms; on-board wheelchair lift, and a minimum of three wheelchair tie-downs per train, with two in the same car, an increase from the current one tie-down per train; and increase VIA Rail’s operational flexibility and reliability by reducing the mechanical breakdowns that effect on-time-performance. VIA Rail will soon launch a request for qualifications followed by a request for proposals. Interested bidders are encouraged to visit VIA Rail’s website regularly for updates. Budget 2018 also proposes $8 million for Transport Canada to undertake foundational work to advance VIA Rail’s proposal for high frequency rail in the Quebec City-Toronto Corridor. This phase of the project would support further economic analysis of key issues associated with a project of this size, such as revenue and ridership projections, as well as estimates for capital and operating costs. This funding will also go towards: exploring opportunities to leverage private investment or a potential role for the Canada Infrastructure Bank, and open and transparent engagement with potentially affected communities, including Indigenous peoples. These activities would inform future decisions, allowing the Government of Canada to move forward with the path most likely to deliver good value for taxpayers and the best possible outcomes for travellers. Quotes “VIA Rail has been connecting Canadians together for decades and plays an important role in the lives of Canadians who rely on the train for their transportation needs. We are proud of investing in this new fleet to make travel more accessible and efficient for all Canadians, support economic growth and job creation and promote a sustainable environment for generations to come.” The Honourable Marc Garneau Minister of Transport “We thank the Government of Canada for their trust in VIA Rail and for this historic investment. It will allow us to significantly improve our intercity rail service. It will also ensure Canadians continue to have uninterrupted access to the Quebec City-Windsor corridor on a sustained long-term basis. A new modern fleet will provide our travellers with safer, faster, more frequent, more accessible and environmentally friendlier service. This important milestone moves us forward with VIA Rail’s transformation plan. It will make VIA Rail the smarter way for Canadians to travel in the Quebec City-Windsor corridor.” Yves Desjardins-Siciliano President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Quick facts The Quebec City-Windsor Corridor accounts for 94% of VIA Rail’s ridership. Replacing VIA Rail’s locomotives with modern equipment will reduce nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and particulate matter emissions by up to 85%. Budget 2018 proposed funding to replace VIA Rail's cars and locomotives with 32 new, bi-directional trains, maintaining current seating capacity for use in the Windsor-Quebec City Corridor. This will ensure that VIA Rail's rolling stock in the Corridor will remain safe and comfortable, and generate fewer greenhouse gas emissions. Associated links Budget 2018 Transportation 2030 VIA Rail Contacts Delphine Denis Press Secretary Office of the Honourable Marc Garneau Minister of Transport, Ottawa 613-991-0700 delphine.denis@tc.gc.ca Media Relations Transport Canada, Ottawa 613-993-0055 media@tc.gc.ca Mariam Diaby Senior Advisor, Media Relations VIA Rail Canada 514 871-6010 mariam_diaby@viarail.ca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow21 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 What would they replace them with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 It needs to go to tender and get approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allandale25 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Latest on the status of revitalizing the rail line to Churchill. Full article here. "It's got to be shovels in the ground by April. That's the target we're working towards," said Spence, conceding it's a complicated deal with a rapidly approaching deadline. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelkupplung Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Why do the some of the P42s tick so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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