MTA NYCT Subway/Bus discussion

[DCTransitFilms]

Looks like a lot of Orion VII NGs have been knocked out over the weekend.

4173, 4332 from Baisley Park are retired

4189, 4193, 4195, 4463 from Casey Stengel are retired

 

1216, 1254 Kingsbridge to Tuskegee Airmen

3279 College Point back at  LaGuardia

5833 Tuskegee Airmen to Kingsbridge

5970: West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (As a Loan)

5988 Casey Stengel to LGA (summer loan)

 

Tuskegee Airmen loaners

Kingsbridge: 1215, 1216, 1254, 5288
5813, 5821, 5833 at Kingsbridge 
West Farms: 5953, 5954, 5970
5914 at West Farms
Mother Clare Hale: 6213

[New Yorker 2001]

9 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Looks like a lot of Orion VII NGs have been knocked out over the weekend.

4173, 4332 from Baisley Park are retired

4189, 4193, 4195, 4463 from Casey Stengel are retired

 

1216, 1254 Kingsbridge to Tuskegee Airmen

3279 College Point back at  LaGuardia

5833 Tuskegee Airmen to Kingsbridge

5970: West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (As a Loan)

5988 Casey Stengel to LGA (summer loan)

 

Tuskegee Airmen loaners

Kingsbridge: 1215, 1216, 1254, 5288
5813, 5821, 5833 at Kingsbridge 
West Farms: 5953, 5954, 5970
5914 at West Farms
Mother Clare Hale: 6213

Add 2009 Orion 7.501 NG Hybrid #4476 to the retirement list as that unit is also now done out of Casey Stengel Depot.

[r142a_7795]

Surprised that no one mentioned this, but last Thursday the second set of R211s (#4070-4079) officially entered service on the (A). More will start entering service once they are prepped and ready, and you can expect 2 new sets to enter service each month until the order finishes.

[DCTransitFilms]

6 hours ago, r142a_7795 said:

Surprised that no one mentioned this, but last Thursday the second set of R211s (#4070-4079) officially entered service on the (A). More will start entering service once they are prepped and ready, and you can expect 2 new sets to enter service each month until the order finishes.

So the R46s is officially starting to go bye bye?

[HR2012TPA]

On 7/3/2023 at 5:10 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

So the R46s is officially starting to go bye bye?

I don't think so just yet, but fairly soon I'd say.

[DCTransitFilms]

2 minutes ago, HR2012TPA said:

I don't think so just yet, but fairly soon I'd say.

There was a Facebook post that SIR R44 424 is retired. Can anyone confirm?

[New Yorker 2001]

On 7/3/2023 at 5:10 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

So the R46s is officially starting to go bye bye?

No, not until probably the end of the year....

[New Yorker 2001]

2017 New Flyer XD60 #6014 is OOS out of Casey Stengel Depot due to a bad crash whilst on the Cross Bronx Expressway, working the Q44 +SBS+ last night. A dozen riders were injured. This bus MIGHT get retired unless they remove the damaged front and replace it with 2013 New Flyer XD60 #4799's front end, basically creating a "franken-bus" like they did with a couple of 2003 New Flyer D60HFs about 10 years ago.

[HR2012TPA]

6 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

There was a Facebook post that SIR R44 424 is retired. Can anyone confirm?

I saw the post as well, but I'm going to make an educated guess and say that the train likely became inoperable and the MTA will just scrap it early. I don't think it has anything to do with the R211S orders because the first set is still in non-revenue testing in NYCT territory. I don't believe that it'll even undergo revenue testing until early next year.

[DCTransitFilms]

6 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

2017 New Flyer XD60 #6014 is OOS out of Casey Stengel Depot due to a bad crash whilst on the Cross Bronx Expressway, working the Q44 +SBS+ last night. A dozen riders were injured. This bus MIGHT get retired unless they remove the damaged front and replace it with 2013 New Flyer XD60 #4799's front end, basically creating a "franken-bus" like they did with a couple of 2003 New Flyer D60HFs about 10 years ago.

picture of this accident?

nvm saw it on here: https://bronx.news12.com/police-12-injured-in-bus-car-crash-on-cross-bronx-expressway

 

[r142a_7795]

On 7/3/2023 at 5:10 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

So the R46s is officially starting to go bye bye?

Not yet, they'll put a few R211s in service first before getting rid of any R46s. Definitely don't wanna start prematurely retiring trains in case more problems with the 211s come up 

[DCTransitFilms]

1 hour ago, r142a_7795 said:

Not yet, they'll put a few R211s in service first before getting rid of any R46s. Definitely don't wanna start prematurely retiring trains in case more problems with the 211s come up 

Yeah I guess everyone learned that the hard way lol (I’m also looking at you WMATA)

[New Yorker 2001]

22 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Yeah I guess everyone learned that the hard way lol (I’m also looking at you WMATA)

For real though...

Anyway, 2006 Orion 7.501 OG Hybrid #3692 is now retired out of JFK/FR Depot(s). Another one bites the dust, and only about 85 or so O7 OG buses remain at MTA bus Company systemwide (and MTA as a whole).

[r142a_7795]

2481 is OOS after being struck by a double decker bus earlier today. No life-threatening injuries, but I’m hearing 76+ people were hurt in the accident…

[Glennwood Road Ent.]

On 7/4/2023 at 5:59 PM, New Yorker 2001 said:

2017 New Flyer XD60 #6014 is OOS out of Casey Stengel Depot due to a bad crash whilst on the Cross Bronx Expressway, working the Q44 +SBS+ last night. A dozen riders were injured. This bus MIGHT get retired unless they remove the damaged front and replace it with 2013 New Flyer XD60 #4799's front end, basically creating a "franken-bus" like they did with a couple of 2003 New Flyer D60HFs about 10 years ago.

You mean the new 5656 on 2003 D60 in 2013. The MTA Fleet roster on Transitalk Transportation Media Group has been outdated from last year. 

[DCTransitFilms]

7 hours ago, Glennwood Road Ent. said:

You mean the new 5656 on 2003 D60 in 2013. The MTA Fleet roster on Transitalk Transportation Media Group has been outdated from last year. 

Yeah that unit. But since the liveries are different, it might be interesting to see if they actually were to do it

[DCTransitFilms]

Retired: 3692 (JFK)

4093 still active from Fresh Pond, 4173 still active from Baisley Park

2410 Meredith to Castleton (loan)

3279 College Point to LaGuardia (not sure if I've mentioned this already)

4173 Baisley Park to JFK

5919 Tuskegee Airmen to West Farms

5962 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (loans)

5970 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen

5336 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (loan)

5876 to Kingsbridge

6193, 6233 Michael J. Quill to Tuskegee Airmen (loans)

8596 Castleton to Yukon

8796, 8941, 8945 Delivered to Casey Stengel. 

8961, 8962 at Volvo facility in Secaucus. Going to Casey Stengel

10 hours ago, r142a_7795 said:

2481 is OOS after being struck by a double decker bus earlier today. No life-threatening injuries, but I’m hearing 76+ people were hurt in the accident…

Heres damage to 2481. The double-decker bus had worse damage though...

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/mta-topview-sightseeing-bus-crash-manhattan/

[New Yorker 2001]

2 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Retired: 3692 (JFK)

4093 still active from Fresh Pond, 4173 still active from Baisley Park

2410 Meredith to Castleton (loan)

3279 College Point to LaGuardia (not sure if I've mentioned this already)

4173 Baisley Park to JFK

5919 Tuskegee Airmen to West Farms

5962 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (loans)

5970 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen

5336 West Farms to Tuskegee Airmen (loan)

5876 to Kingsbridge

6193, 6233 Michael J. Quill to Tuskegee Airmen (loans)

8596 Castleton to Yukon

8796, 8941, 8945 Delivered to Casey Stengel. 

8961, 8962 at Volvo facility in Secaucus. Going to Casey Stengel

Heres damage to 2481. The double-decker bus had worse damage though...

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/mta-topview-sightseeing-bus-crash-manhattan/

Damn, you can't be serious. That's alot of passengers between those two buses. I would not be surprised if 2011-2012 Prevost X3-45 #2481 is written off due to age.

[DCTransitFilms]

3 minutes ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

Damn, you can't be serious. That's alot of passengers between those two buses. I would not be surprised if 2011-2012 Prevost X3-45 #2481 is written off due to age.

I wouldn't worry about the buses. I just care that everyone for the most part are fine. But almost 80 people were taken to hospital...

[New Yorker 2001]

2 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

I wouldn't worry about the buses. I just care that everyone for the most part are fine. But almost 80 people were taken to hospital...

Was #2481 fully loading with commuters or was it Deadheading? Know for a fact most of those accident injuries were from the NY Sightseeing bus.

[DCTransitFilms]

1 hour ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

Was #2481 fully loading with commuters or was it Deadheading? Know for a fact most of those accident injuries were from the NY Sightseeing bus.

It was on the X38. Didn’t see how many people were on it though.

[New Yorker 2001]

4 minutes ago, DCTransitFilms said:

It was on the X38. Didn’t see how many people were on it though.

Speaking of Prevost, surprisingly, the MTA has quietly awarded the next 250 OTR coach MTA bus Company order to them. This is despite the pending closure of their upstate plant. Likely to be numbered #1630-1879. 

 

Equally shocking it the revelation that Van Hool/ABC companies have been given the 5 Electric OTR bus order. I don't think Van Hool currently offers an EV model, so they are most likely going to have to build one from the ground up. MCI weirdly enough is NOWHERE to be found for near future orders.....

[3we]

9 hours ago, New Yorker 2001 said:

 

Equally shocking it the revelation that Van Hool/ABC companies have been given the 5 Electric OTR bus order. I don't think Van Hool currently offers an EV model, so they are most likely going to have to build one from the ground up. MCI weirdly enough is NOWHERE to be found for near future orders.....

The Van Hool CX45E has been available since 2021.

[New Yorker 2001]

On 7/7/2023 at 12:16 AM, Glennwood Road Ent. said:

You mean the new 5656 on 2003 D60 in 2013. The MTA Fleet roster on Transitalk Transportation Media Group has been outdated from last year. 

Yes, that very bus.

12 hours ago, 3we said:

The Van Hool CX45E has been available since 2021.

I doubt the MTA would go for that bus in its current form without major modifications as the CX45 is essentially meant for Charter bus duties.

[New Yorker 2001]

Looks like some Depots are stealing older 2012-2013 New Flyer XD60s from each other. Casey Stengel stole #4712, #4763, #4775, and #4778 from Grand Avenue Depot. GA in return received #4754, #4782, #4785, and #4798 from Ulmer Park Depot. I guess the B1 is going to see some XD40s again.

Might have to do with the fact that CS had recently lost (atleast for now) 2017 New Flyer XD60 #6014 in a major accident I reported the other day.

 

Speaking of accidents, 2015-2016 Nova LFS #8447 is OOS from Jamaica Depot due to a crash. Bus has minor damage however. For those counting, this is the 3rd major NYCTA bus crash in less than a week.