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2 hours ago, MCIBUS said:

Will they get any compensation? I douAt least you still have serevice, tell thatto all the Canadians in western Canada.

 

Yes other bus companies may take over but if your going to have to transfer 3 or 4 times whats the point?

Getting from A to B... Transfers like that are incredibly common in the U.S.

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On 7/30/2018 at 5:31 PM, ns8401 said:

Not going so well at Port Authority Bus Terminal in New York City...

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/07/30/greyhound-bus-passengers-stranded-overnight-at-port-authority/

Must have been a slow news day at WCBS....

This has been happening for years in New York City, which has a perennial driver shortage, usually manifesting during heavy holiday travel periods.

It used to be much worse at one period, until they required 'reservation's'.....back in the good old days, the old Greyhound Lines would never limit sales, and would make a heroic attempt to serve all that came, even if it meant chartering rental buses and driver's from several companies.    To be fair, it was a lot easier to recruit driver's in that era...

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Is there money to be made if the bus is sold out, but they charter a bus from another company? 

If you look at it as a spread, you may only break even on the overflow route but overall you have more revenue so isnt that a good thing? 

Plus it increases your ridership numbers, which shareholders like. 

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10 hours ago, traildriver said:

Must have been a slow news day at WCBS....

This has been happening for years in New York City, which has a perennial driver shortage, usually manifesting during heavy holiday travel periods.

It used to be much worse at one period, until they required 'reservation's'.....back in the good old days, the old Greyhound Lines would never limit sales, and would make a heroic attempt to serve all that came, even if it meant chartering rental buses and driver's from several companies.    To be fair, it was a lot easier to recruit driver's in that era...

Must have been a slow news day overall.. that was the best written of all the news stations in the big apple...

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6326 was involved in an accident in or around Winnipeg:

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/mobile/greyhound-bus-involved-in-crash-on-portage-avenue-1.4035904

 

A Greyhound rider near Sacramento, CA decided to pepper spray his fellow passengers while traveling down I-80. One woman even jumped out of one of the emergency windows to escape. 26 hurt in all.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article215911045.html

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To Georgia this time as 86309 decided it didn’t feel like driving on and broke down on the freeway. At one point allegedly someone from Greyhound hung up on the driver trying to get some help. They were stuck about 5 hours and another bus took 20 passengers while the remaining 30 left on 86309 once it was started again.

Fun times.

https://www.wsav.com/news/local-news/developing-bus-breaks-down-on-i-16-passengers-stranded-for-hours/1341633597

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Our tour of the driver/bus shortage lately takes us to Richmond, VA:

http://www.nbc12.com/story/38851452/greyhound-riders-stranded-for-hours-over-driver-shortage

 

Meanwhile in Canada, Amalgamated Transit is trying to get Ottawa to subsidize the western routes to save the 400 drivers jobs...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/greyhound-canada-subsidies-manitoba-saskatchewan-alberta-1.4779609

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22 hours ago, ns8401 said:

Our tour of the driver/bus shortage lately takes us to Richmond, VA:

http://www.nbc12.com/story/38851452/greyhound-riders-stranded-for-hours-over-driver-shortage

 

Meanwhile in Canada, Amalgamated Transit is trying to get Ottawa to subsidize the western routes to save the 400 drivers jobs...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/greyhound-canada-subsidies-manitoba-saskatchewan-alberta-1.4779609

Only one problem...Greyhound says they are done Oct 31...No matter what!!

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2 hours ago, traildriver said:

At the rate they will be losing passenger's, the driver shortage will solve itself.  Pretty soon, only those that simply have no other way to travel, will remain with them...

It's a terrible thing to see a century old institution unraveling....

It really is... when the gate to leave the terminal gets stuck shut and you have connections with a trapped bus and are 35 or so minutes down their loss is your gain... ?

Couldn’t believe that luck. Point is that you can try to hold them and say you have 10+ people but they usually don’t wait with the drivers screaming about “on time performance and the company is after me!”. Gee, there Won’t be a company if you don’t haul anybody... we wait 15+ for them when they have piles of people and several 2+ hour late buses coming in. Their drivers don’t bother to return the favor...

My other big complaint is that their drivers are into the mindset “it says get to the station at least 20 minutes early, so if I’m loaded I’m leaving”. This results in buses pulling off 5-10 minutes  early. I know one driver in particular who always leaves 4-5 minutes early and always sends somebody to the ticket counter to fix something, runs out to his bus, throws that thing in gear and speeds off... 

Probably the best one I heard happened in Kalamazoo where their bus left 10 minutes early and somebody came running out to it. The driver stopped, wagged his finger “no” at the person and one of the drivers from another company walked over to his drivers window and asked if he was in a hurry... his response? “On-time performance!, they are all over me about On-time performance!”... Leave like that at any other company and there may be a sudden job opening or some reflective time... I really wish this was isolated but it’s really reflective of their implosion. 

Oh and There is a schedule (4590, Detroit-Muskegon) that has run on only 1 Saturday since June. The reason? Folks call off rather than come into work and there is no driver. The weekends seem particularly bad at Greyhound in general. 

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11 minutes ago, ns8401 said:

How about a positive for a change? 

A Greyhound driver on I-65 came across a burning car in a pile-up and stopped, put out the flames and dragged the man to safety...

 

https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2018/08/14/driver-causes-65-crash-near-lafayette-and-doesnt-stop/990824002/

Now that's the kind of positive story you used to hear, about Greyhound driver's, when they were considered to be at the pinnacle of professional driver's...

Thanks for posting it...

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Greyhound used to have an architect on retainer, that designed a few standardized terminals, that came in about 3 sizes for different sized operations in various cities from coast to coast. 

That was in the thirties and forty's.His name was W S Arrasmith, and there's a nice book written by F Wrenick, called 'The Streamline Era Greyhound Terminal' that tells the story.

There are some preserved here and there, usually re-purposed...  

The largest remaining example, still in use, is Cleveland.

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46 minutes ago, traildriver said:

Greyhound used to have an architect on retainer, that designed a few standardized terminals, that came in about 3 sizes for different sized operations in various cities from coast to coast. 

That was in the thirties and forty's.His name was W S Arrasmith, and there's a nice book written by F Wrenick, called 'The Streamline Era Greyhound Terminal' that tells the story.

There are some preserved here and there, usually re-purposed...  

The largest remaining example, still in use, is Cleveland.

Thanks for the history. I can't find an attribution online for these smaller stations to Arrasmith ...but they were certainly all the same style. Olympia WA, Eugene OR, Medford OR, Roseburg OR, Redding CA ... variations on a theme.

The Redding station, which closed a few years ago. It could barely fit a 45ft coach. I remember sitting right on top of the rear axle on the right side of the coach (and I'd had my CDL for a few years by this point) on a G4500 as we left the station. Barely had enough clearance to get out of the pull through loading bay and turned into the alley behind the station.

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One from Canada and one from the U.S. this go round:

More delays on the East Coast brings us to Richmond, VA where a station employee was assaulted by an unruly (and stranded) passenger:

https://wtvr.com/2018/08/16/greyhound-bus-station-assault/

The bad news continued when that TV station laid off its copy editor...

Meanwhile in Canada the Greyhound driver involved in the wreck that killed a man on a tractor last year with a Prince George bound bus has been charged with “Driving without due care and attention”:

https://www.myprincegeorgenow.com/82071/bus-driver-to-go-to-trial-in-connection-with-fatal-incident-near-quesnel/

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