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  1. They certainly could. I think the whole system can be revived and improved upon both in freight and passengers with advertising which is virtually non-existent. Too many people simply don’t know the service exists.
  2. Are they even aware buses haul freight at this point? Nobody else seems to be. Not a bad idea but would they want the extra trouble of people?
  3. Greyhound has sold it’s Maintanance lot and facility in Richmond, Virginia to Virginia Commonwealth University for $11 Million dollars. The university plans to eventually demolish it and build a stadium. It was still in use at the time of sale, no clear plans for where Greyhound is going to move in Richmond. https://richmondbizsense.com/2020/03/30/vcu-pays-11m-for-greyhound-land-near-the-diamond-delays-new-kent-er/
  4. If they say they are still talking and they’ll update the market as appropriate then it’s a bit of a leap to assume nobody budged and they are auctioning the place off. I’m gonna ignore the cheap shots and chest puffing parts of this. The fact is that it is much easier to get a license and run buses now than it was before deregulation. We’ll have to wait and see how this works out. I’d imagine within 3 months we’ll know something about the hounds fate be it sale, auction or liquidation. In the position I’m in I stand to benefit from the latter two scenarios more than a sale. So I’m cautiously optimistic your source has the right of it.
  5. We’re on the same page. I’m just not sure where there is still enough freight to warrant running a combination bus? Out west or down south maybe?
  6. First has never said that nobody responded... they have said repeatedly that they are in talks with somebody. Nobody else has reported they are up for auction except for the rumor mill and that article that you linked to. But it even included the language about negotiations ongoing with a buyer. They simply misused the word auction in their headline or opening sentence or whatever. First Student and First Transit are most certainly for SALE and NOT auction. From the article: “Greyhound’s trading environment remains challenging, with further reductions in fuel price which typically makes travel by car more cost-competitive, continuing reductions in immigration-related demand in the southern border states and intensifying competition in several markets,” said the release. “Negotiations in respect of the Greyhound sale process are ongoing and we will update the market, as appropriate, when they conclude.” Nothing about selling it in pieces there. Sloppy writing is all that is. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to an auction but it doesn't sound like we are there quite yet. Those state runs or state funding for buses or whatever the individual case is comes with a major condition. The runs have to connect to the overall national network and are about rural connectivity to the nation at large. That's why all of the companies MUST be and ARE on the same system now. That won't change if Greyhound goes away. They will have to buy TRIPS or invest in a new system but about 60 companies will need to share or they will lose a lot of state and federal monies. They cannot just each buy their own. It must be possible to buy a ticket in North Dakota to go to Holland, Michigan and travel over Jefferson Lines, Greyhound and Indian Trails in one transaction just to give an example. In the U.S. unlike Canada interlining is ESSENTIAL. If Megabus took over those Canadian operations people would still want connections at the end points to other carriers so you need buy in from them for the interlining system. In the U.S. to pull a trailer behind a bus you need to be licensed for a combination vehicle (Class A). That's why to drive an entertainer coach you need a Class A, I've had several co-workers who had to go to trucking school to do that so that's how I know. There isn't enough freight moving to warrant that arrangement these days. Combi-buses maybe but not trailers. The Uber/Lyft style bus service is already present in the form of Flix in the U.S. and they keep expanding. It very much is on demand intercity service using contracted carriers running designated schedules at curbside locations. Effectively it's a booking platform with minimal overhead. I wouldn't put to much stock into state operating authorities... they aren't very hard to get. Flix has interest only in organic growth and not in Greyhound.
  7. If there is an interline cooperative formed I think the existing companies can handle it. But they are so much easier to work with than Greyhound that I can see them welcoming in state agencies as well. Greyhound tended to push its weight around to the point that they would do things to spite other carriers without considering the adverse effects on them.
  8. You need a class A license... most bus drivers only have a B.
  9. Here’s the notice that was posted to employees when they did the layoffs/furloughs:
  10. Right. At this point who would buy anything in travel or hospitality outright? Equipment and stuff sure... people will snap up what’s usable from Greyhound for when things normalize again. The routes are not really something you sell In the US though unless you’re paying First off to pull out of running that corridor or something? But then again you shouldn’t have to give them squat for that (maybe for the facilities and related infrastructure though? A lot of the stations are state and municipal now though so those entities will take In whoever wants it as tenants as long as a deal can be reached to have an agency).. Government oversight and franchises and all that went away in 1982 with deregulation so Greyhound can abandon the routes at any time and somebody can just pick them up at anytime. Nobody has to pay First to take over a run so if Academy wants to they can run to Miami right now. It’d be a whole lot more lucrative to not have Greyhound running with them as competition though. And if they want to interline Greyhound has a history of trying to grind anyone who interlines and tries to compete with them at the same time into dust. I would assume the ticketing infrastructure would be sold to the interline carriers in a cooperative style arrangement. Package express as well. That would provide a seemless transition for passengers and avoid a Western Canada situation.
  11. I think they used auction in place of sale for some odd reason. It’s still a sale as of March 12 when that was written. I’m hearing rumblings from several places now that it WILL be parted out and done away with soon however so auction may end up being the right word after all.
  12. They would just use the Federal Transit Administration section 5311(f) funding already available and contract it to a carrier most likely. As for bidding on runs... there is no bidding on runs. You simply do the math and announce you’re going to start a run somewhere, pick a start day and go or not. Other than a couple medium operators (New York Trailways, Fullington Trailways and Burlington Trailways come to mind) the National Trailways system is mostly tour operators will little interest in line runs.
  13. I would caution you against thinking they are heavily traveled right now. Right, I’m wondering how much longer some of the 4 schedule a day corridors will be 4 schedules a day. We’ll see how it plays out but there may be a third major revision. I don’t want to make it seem all doom and gloom, I think a chance to pull things apart and change them will be helpful as you say and any expansion of service I am more than happy to report as good news.
  14. As someone who works in the industry... it feels exactly as if the Titanic is sinking.. and all the lifeboats around it. When you aren’t sure when you’ll be back to your normal run because it’s suspended that’s a bad feeling indeed, that’s my boat right now. Not sure about the handful of Canadian runs but in the U.S. those I listed are gone, off the timetables and gone from the computer, if they just furloughed them they would put “cancelled” on their site, which is what they were doing for a while. This is essentially Greyhound “right sizing itself“ for the situation. The actual wording used was “expiring” rather than “discontinued until further notice”. That means these are for sure gone for now. Nobody is gonna step in and run something nobody is riding (there are literally empty buses rolling around). So don’t worry I have made sure I know what I’m talking about first by observing everything and being very careful to get it right and get my ducks in a row before posting. The U.S. government here has zero say in it, and I have my doubts that they care. Presumably some of these runs will come back as demand returns. In what form? Your guess is as good as mine. Be patient... you’ll see a whole bunch of NEW when they post what’s NEW. But it will almost certainly change post virus. That’s why I went to the trouble of copying that down by hand. New origin/destination pairs and new numbers are very very likely. Also some of these are being cut related to fat trimming for the sale, especially in the first round last week. It will very likely be months before any semblance of normal returns to the intercity system.
  15. More big changes now.. 250 more schedules gone: Effective 3/20/20: ** NEW** 7306 Raton, New Mexico to Dallas, Texas Origin / Destination Changes: 1163 Chicago, Illinois to Baton Rouge, Louisiana ** NOW TERMINATES AT MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE ** 1212 Baton Rouge, Louisiana to Chicago, Illinois ** NOW ORIGINATES AT MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE ** 1420 Los Angeles, California to Seattle, Washington ** NOW ORIGINATES AT SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA ** 1437 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California ** NOW ORIGINATES AT EL PASO, TEXAS ** 1443 Seattle, Washington to Los Angeles, California ** NOW TERMINATES AT SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA ** 1444 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas ** NOW TERMINATES AT EL PASO, TEXAS ** 1500 Dallas, Texas to Chicago, Illinois ** NOW ORIGINATES AT MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE ** 1504 Memphis, Tennessee to Cleveland, Ohio ** NOW ORIGINATES AT CINCINNATI, OHIO 1537 Cleveland, Ohio to Dallas Texas ** NOW TERMINATES AT NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE ** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abolished: 251 Albany, New York to New York, New York 286 New York, New York to Albany, New York V897 Dallas, Texas to Brownsville, Texas **Valley Transit** V898 Brownsville, Texas to Dallas, Texas **Valley Transit** 1125 Atlanta, Georgia to Miami, Florida 1163 Chicago, Illinois to Memphis, Tennessee 1212 Baton Rouge, Louisiana to Chicago, Illinois 1243 Orlando, Florida to Houston, Texas 1248 Houston, Texas to Mobile, Alabama 1250 Mobile, Alabama to Orlando, Florida 1255 Orlando, Florida to Mobile, Alabama 1276 Seattle, Washington to Spokane, Washington 1277 Spokane, Washington to Seattle, Washington 1333 St. Louis, Missouri to Los Angeles, California 1360 Los Angeles, California to Phoenix, Arizona 1420 Los Angeles, California to Vancouver, British Columbia 1437 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California 1443 Seattle, Washington to Los Angeles, California 1444 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas 1447 Phoenix, Arizona to Los Angeles, California 1500 Dallas, Texas to Chicago, Illinois 1504 Memphis, Tennessee to Cleveland, Ohio 1537 Cleveland, Ohio to Dallas, Texas 1547 Atlanta, Georgia to Dallas, Texas 1556 Dallas, Texas to Atlanta, Georgia 2000 Hartford Connecticut to Boston, Massachusetts 2003 Boston, Massachusetts to Hartford, Connecticut 2022 New York New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2023 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2301 New York, New York to Richmond, Virginia 2304 Richmond, Virginia to New York, New York 2402 Washington D.C. to New York, New York 2409 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 2413 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 2420 Washington D.C. to New York, New York 2503 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 3203 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3204 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3210 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3214 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3220 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3221 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3224 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3225 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3227 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3229 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3541 Boston, Massachusetts to Montreal, Quebec 3542 Montreal, Quebec to Boston, Massachusetts 3732 Orlando, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia 3785 Miami, Florida to Orlando, Florida 4001 Montreal, Quebec to New York, New York 4015 Montreal, Quebec to New York, New York 4036 New York, New York to Montreal, Quebec 4040 New York, New York to Montreal, Quebec 4551 Detroit, Michigan to Chicago Amtrak, Illinois 4552 Chicago, Illinois to Detroit, Michigan 4687 State College, Pennsylvania to Washington D.C. 4720 Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota 4820 St. Louis, Missouri to Chicago, Illinois 4821 Chicago, Illinois to St. Louis, Missouri 4909 Minneapolis, Minnesota to Chicago, Illinois 6001 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California 6006 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 6009 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California 6010 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 6013 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California 6014 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 6021 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California 6023 Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California 6034 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 6048 Los Angeles, California to Las Vegas, Nevada 6491 Dallas, Texas to Houston, Texas 6739 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California 6749 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California 6751 San Francisco, California to Los Angeles, California 6752 Los Angeles, California to Oakland, California 6756 Los Angeles, California to Oakland, California 6844 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California 6853 Oakland, California to Los Angeles, California 6876 Los Angeles California to Oakland, California 6880 Los Angeles, California to San Francisco, California 6905 Stanfield, Oregon to Seattle, Washington 6908 Seattle, Washington to Stanfield, Oregon 7208 Houston, Texas to Dallas, Texas 7307 Denver, Colorado to Dallas, Texas 7310 Dallas, Texas to Denver, Colorado 7960 Brattleboro, Vermont to Boston, Massachusetts 7961 Boston, Massachusetts to Brattleboro, Vermont 8300 San Francisco, California to Reno Sparks, Nevada 8306 San Francisco, California to Reno Sparks, Nevada 8310 San Francisco, California to Reno Sparks, Nevada 8311 Reno Sparks, Nevada to San Francisco, California 8315 Reno Sparks, Nevada to San Francisco, California 9253 Albuquerque, New Mexico to El Paso, Texas 9662 El Paso, Texas to Albuquerque, New Mexico Effective 3/21/20 Abolished: N267 ? Part of New York to Toronto Service 207 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York 212 Cleveland, Ohio to New York, New York 259 Syracuse, New York to New York, New York 285 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York 311 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York 329 Toronto, Ontario to New York, New York V807 Harlingen, Texas to Brownsville, Texas **Valley Transit** V815 Harlingen, Texas to Brownsville, Texas ** Valley Transit ** V822 Brownsville, Texas to Harlingen, Texas **Valley Transit** V836 Brownsville, Texas to Dallas, Texas **Valley Transit** V872 Brownsville, Texas to Houston, Texas **Valley Transit** V897 Dallas, Texas to Brownsville, Texas ** Valley Transit ** 4103 Syracuse, New York to New York, New York 4105 Syracuse, New York to New York, New York 4141 Syracuse, New York to New York, New York 4184 Buffalo, New York to Albany, New York 4263 Rochester, New York to New York, New York 6547 Vancouver, British Columbia to Seattle, Washington 8000 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8001 New York, New York to Mt. Laurel, New Jersey 8003 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey 8007 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey 8008 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8009 New York. New York to Camden, New Jersey 8012 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8013 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey 8014 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8018 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8019 New York, New York to Mt. Laurel, New Jersey 8020 Camden, New Jersey to New York, New York 8022 Camden, New Jersey to New York, New York 8028 Mt. Laurel, New Jersey to New York, New York 8035 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey 8041 New York, New York to Camden, New Jersey Effective 3/22/20 Abolished: A8993 ? Part of US-Mexico Service AAU8982 ? Part of US-Mexico Service AAU8986 ? Part of US-Mexico Service AAU 8996 ? Part of US-Mexico Service 1403 Dallas, Texas to Los Angeles, California 1408 Los Angeles, California to Dallas, Texas 1438 Los Angeles, California to San Antonio, Texas 1439 Vancouver, British Columbia to Los Angeles, California 1446 Los Angeles, California to Vancouver, British Columbia 3559 Baltimore Downtown, Maryland to Norfolk, Virginia 3560 Norfolk, Virginia to Baltimore Downtown, Maryland 4554 Chicago, Illinois to Detroit, Michigan 4559 Detroit, Michigan to Chicago, Illinois 6316 San Diego, California to Phoenix, Arizona 6317 Phoenix, Arizona to San Diego, California 6774 Fresno, California to Oakland, California 6781 Oakland, California to Fresno, California 6842 Los Angeles, California to Sacramento, California 6859 Sacramento, California to Los Angeles, California 7265 Houston, Texas to San Antonio, Texas 9047 Dallas, Texas to Laredo, Texas 9320 Laredo, Texas to Dallas, Texas 9451 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Station, Mexico 9455 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Station, Mexico 9464 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California 9467 Los Angeles, California to San Ysidro, California 9470 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California 9479 Los Angeles, California to Tijuana Central Bus Station, Mexico 9484 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California 9488 San Ysidro, California to Los Angeles, California 9601 Fresno, California to Calexico, California 9602 Calexico, California to Fresno, California Effective 3/23/20 Abolished: 4588 Detroit, Michigan to Grand Rapids, Michigan 4593 Grand Rapids, Michigan to Detroit, Michigan 4594 Detroit, Michigan to Chicago, Illinois 4597 Chicago, Illinois to Detroit, Michigan Effective 3/25/20 Abolished: 1142 Atlanta, Georgia to Cincinnati, Ohio 1157 Cincinnati, Ohio to Atlanta, Georgia 2005 Springfield, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2006 Hartford, Connecticut to Boston, Massachusetts 2009 Boston, Massachusetts to Hartford, Connecticut 2019 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2024 New York, New York to Springfield, Massachusetts 2026 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2405 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 2410 Washington D.C. to New York, New York 2411 New York, New York to Wilmington, Delaware 2422 Wilmington, Delaware to New York, New York 2501 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2508 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2517 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2520 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2523 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2524 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2525 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2528 New York, New York to Boston, Massachusetts 2529 Boston, Massachusetts to New York, New York 2901 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 2904 Washington D.C. to New York, New York 2909 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 2912 Washington D.C. to New York, New York 2919 New York, New York to Washington D.C. 3019 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Norfolk, Virginia 3038 Virginia Beach, Virginia to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3200 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3201 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3207 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3208 New York, New York to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 3211 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3215 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3218 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3219 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3222 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3223 New York, New York to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 3237 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3277 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to New York, New York 3531 Boston, Massachusetts to Montreal, Quebec 3534 Montreal, Quebec to Boston Logan Airport, Massachusetts 3536 Montreal, Quebec to Boston, Massachusetts 3537 Boston, Massachusetts to Montreal, Quebec 3805 Shreveport, Louisiana to New Orleans, Louisiana 3808 New Orleans, Louisiana to Shreveport, Louisiana 4143 Buffalo, New York to Cleveland, Ohio 4188 Cleveland, Ohio to Buffalo, New York 4431 Cleveland, Ohio to Detroit, Michigan 4446 Detroit, Michigan to Cleveland, Ohio 4665 Detroit, Michigan to Nashville, Tennessee 4666 Nashville, Tennessee to Detroit, Michigan 4712 Chicago, Illinois to Minneapolis, Minnesota 4731 Minneapolis, Minnesota to Chicago, Illinois 4921 Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Chicago, Illinois 4936 Chicago, Illinois to Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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