M. Parsons Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Recently, a lot of Ferrier buses have been showing up with passenger counters installed. Then, it was announced ETS was installing GPS junk on some buses to help speed up trips by holding green lights. Finally, mike from edmonton posted this: I had heard that all of the D40LF's (except the 200 class) were built with the gps wiring/harness installed for the "eventual" installation fleet wide. Had also heard that not only location, but it would also be able to transmit engine data, passenger counts etc. So, it could be that the GPS equipped buses are getting passenger counters as well... I figured I will start up a thread to track the buses with passenger counters. 4065, 4072, 4073, 4142, 4445, 4485, 4486, 4487, 4490, 4492?, 4493, 4494, 4495, 4498, 4500, 4510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modulator Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Where do you find the passenger counter/GPS equipment inside a D40LF? Something I'll watch for if I ever catch a Ferrier bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Where do you find the passenger counter/GPS equipment inside a D40LF? Something I'll watch for if I ever catch a Ferrier bus. Look and the front and rear doors. There will be some black boxes attached to the top of the door frame. 2 or 3 at the rear doors and 1-2 at the front doors. There is also a black box attached to the bottom of the side destination sign. This is only the passenger counting equipment, as far as I can tell. So far I can't recall seeing the counters on anything but Ferrier buses. However, I don't ride many non Ferrier low floors, as, if it is something from Mitchell or Westwood I'm usually riding the bus for pleasure which automatically eliminates the D40LF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 was on 4495 tonight and it has the counters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 7, 2006 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 No counters on Westwood 4392. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 No counters on Westwood 4392. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 lol I fail to see what is funny in this. Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Most of the time I'm just updateing this by editing the original message... However... figured I'd mention this one... 4142 has a counter... Should be a Westwood based bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Where do you find the passenger counter/GPS equipment inside a D40LF? Something I'll watch for if I ever catch a Ferrier bus. I have a couple pictures of them, except on a MT 03XX, which uses 3M equipment! Will that do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I have a couple pictures of them, except on a MT 03XX, which uses 3M equipment! Will that do? Thanks for posting those. The shots showing the unit in the door is similar to Edmonton's, except, Edmonton has either 2 or 3 units it there. We do not have the thing on the front of the bus.... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 4445 has a counter! It is also a highway bus. I was on that on the way home from getting my streetcar conductor training today! Next year i do my motorman training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Thanks for posting those. The shots showing the unit in the door is similar to Edmonton's, except, Edmonton has either 2 or 3 units it there. We do not have the thing on the front of the bus.... yet. Wow, 2 or 3 units, our D60LFs have even wider doors then that and only have two counters. (0152 and 0152 are the only D60LFs with the equipment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 12, 2006 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Was riding 1036 to the U today and at Churchill the announcements started to mess up and were out of sync. So at Central it said Churchill, at Bay it said Central, at Corona it said Bay, at Grandin it said Corona, then on the bridge it announced "Next stop, Grandin Station, Government Centre", but when it arrived to University, it had fixed itself (or the motorman had fixed it) and it announced "University Station". Another thing I noticed was that all the announcements were being made on the external speakers all the way ther. I caught the same car back, and the announcements were very faint, coming from probably only one speaker in the entire vehicle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Wow, 2 or 3 units, our D60LFs have even wider doors then that and only have two counters. (0152 and 0152 are the only D60LFs with the equipment) Wider than double stream? All of Edmonton's are double stream doors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0603 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Wider than double stream? All of Edmonton's are double stream doors.... NVM, I just saw a photo of the rear doors on your D40LFs, and I noticed they're just as wide as our D60LF's rear doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonguy Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Was riding 1036 to the U today and at Churchill the announcements started to mess up and were out of sync. So at Central it said Churchill, at Bay it said Central, at Corona it said Bay, at Grandin it said Corona, then on the bridge it announced "Next stop, Grandin Station, Government Centre", but when it arrived to University, it had fixed itself (or the motorman had fixed it) and it announced "University Station". Another thing I noticed was that all the announcements were being made on the external speakers all the way ther. I caught the same car back, and the announcements were very faint, coming from probably only one speaker in the entire vehicle... The announcements being played through the external speakers seems to be a common affliction with the new system, or perhaps i've just had 1036 a lot, either way it's been happening since at least march of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 13, 2006 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 Yeah I've noticed that a lot of the time the external speakers get used. More often than not it is like the case of 1020 today, where in the middle of the announcement (usually after the first two-tone chime) it cuts from broadcasting on the external speaker to the cabin speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 A pic of our counters. It's a crappy shot... but it is 3 counters at the rear door, 2 at the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Lately i noticed having counters 4502, 4508 and 4912... i think i saw another artic have a counter. i was informed by someone i cant count on but that all artics are destined to have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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