dj.surf.lfs Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Posted May 31, 2012 I was just on 159 and saw that the handicap seat and the side facing seat on the right side are missing. Any reason for this? It's designated as "Priority Area" to make more room for wheelchairs/strollers. Only 159 and 160 has them (as this is an experimentation only).
dj.surf.lfs Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Posted June 5, 2012 Transit Master Plan passed: http://www.tbnewswat...lanning-a-route The plan, which is about 200 pages long (according to Councillor Bentz), will be available to the public in about a week.
armorand Posted June 5, 2012 Report Posted June 5, 2012 The report stressed six key weaknesses in the current system: • Poor service frequency • Lack of direct routes • Unreliable and unpredictable route schedules • Inadequate and uneven distribution of service • Trips requiring many transfers with little time allotted • Lack of two-directional service and a route system that doesn’t accommodate growth How bad is it? Maybe you guys could look at Winnipegs example: - Base routes, with timed 30/60 minute feeders stopping at either terminus points or major places (shopping centre/bigbox centre) - Development of express rush hour service - Crosstown routes, which run outside the City Centre I might create a version of it on Google Maps, if anyones interested! Vid probably might
armorand Posted June 5, 2012 Report Posted June 5, 2012 https://maps.google.....05974,0.169086 Google Maps gets screwy after so many lines (to the point where you can't see all routes at the same time.....) , so if anyone (vid, since I know from SSP that he has the software) wants to take my idea and improve it, go right ahead! Red - Main Route Green - Feeder Blue - Crosstown Yellow- Express/Rush Hour service Route 1: Porcupine - Covers Arthur and Victoria. - Provides service to "Porcupine" area Route 2: Walsh/Airport - Covers high school, Airport, key transfer route Route 3: Valhalla - Covers the Valhalla hotel, "Arthur Street Marketplace", West Fort William Route 4: Edward/Balmoral - Key transfer route - Covers Lakehead University and Confederation College Route 5: Redwood - Feeder for "Redwood" area. Route 6: Redwood Express - Covers the mall, Redwood area, Transit Garage, north-central Thunder Bay Route 7: Pacific - Covers Pacific neighborhood Route 8: Lakehead Express - Covers both Confederation College and Lakehead University Route 9: Simpson - Covers mall and Simpson St. Route 10: MAINLINE! - Replaces former Route 3 service Route 11: Alloy - Transfer between Route 4 and mall Route 12: William (Winnipeg much?) - Covers Redwood area and the mall Route 13: Oliver - Covers the garage, Oliver, Hospital, "Sunrise" area and John Street. (continually adding onto post, saving before-hand incase PC crashes...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As for fleet expansion (to remove interlining once and for all, mwa-ha-ha-ha), I suggest: - 20 buses, 40ft (Nova?) and for the feeders, - 12 Arbocs (roughly $150,000 isn't it?) That or get some NFI XD30s/D30LFRs...
vid Posted June 5, 2012 Report Posted June 5, 2012 Except for express rush hour service, what you described is what we have, and what we will get. The new layout is just tweaked to reflect current commuter dynamics. Thunder Bay is small enough that unlike Winnipeg, when we change a route in a newly developing area, we have to change all of the routes.
armorand Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 Except for express rush hour service, what you described is what we have, and what we will get. The new layout is just tweaked to reflect current commuter dynamics. Thunder Bay is small enough that unlike Winnipeg, when we change a route in a newly developing area, we have to change all of the routes. Express rush hour service could do well for the suburbs and Industrial areas! The 49 in Winnipeg is usually full of standees leaving Downtown. As for Thunder Bay though, no idea. Please tell me they're axeing Route 4. That seems like such a waste of a needed bus... or if Thunder Bay is going to buy Arbocs to cover such routes if they want to keep it. What are the major employment centres in Thunder Bay? Or the highest frequency routes? Maybe I can spend today coming up with another map
tbaytransit Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 Proposed route network concept map:https://www.dropbox....t_MAP_PRINT.pdf Here's the proposed route network. What's your feedback?
vid Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 I'd like to give input but I have no time. Going on vacation to Winnipeg in a few days. If anyone wants transit maps or something from Winnipeg let me know and I'll try and get some.
armorand Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 I'd like to give input but I have no time. Going on vacation to Winnipeg in a few days. If anyone wants transit maps or something from Winnipeg let me know and I'll try and get some. 1ajs gave us alot of time to prepare for this! and I'd be down to show you where to get them, along with where the garage is, etc etc
vid Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 A lot of time? You guys are planning all this stuff for me to do and I haven't even started packing yet. Apparently we're going swimming somewhere. Anyway, the biggest issue I can see with your map is that you're applying Winnipeg's size to your logic. Thunder Bay isn't big enough for a little loop route in a neighbourhood that doesn't really go anywhere and just brings people to another route for them to transfer to. In Winnipeg there are more major destinations for them. Route five, for example, doesn't go to any of our five main transfer areas, even though it gets very close to one.
armorand Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 A lot of time? You guys are planning all this stuff for me to do and I haven't even started packing yet. Apparently we're going swimming somewhere. Anyway, the biggest issue I can see with your map is that you're applying Winnipeg's size to your logic. Thunder Bay isn't big enough for a little loop route in a neighbourhood that doesn't really go anywhere and just brings people to another route for them to transfer to. In Winnipeg there are more major destinations for them. Route five, for example, doesn't go to any of our five main transfer areas, even though it gets very close to one. Mostly, its the other guys doing the planning. I have no idea what plans they have in store other than the SSP meeting at some sort of tavern, Kings Head i think. I'm too poor to plan anything lmao Oh okay, so my map in Thunder Bay is in need of pretty much routes to the two "downtowns" then? Along with Lakehead, Confederation and for-sure Intercily SC.
dj.surf.lfs Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Posted June 7, 2012 Via Facebook: Transit will continue servicing the East End on Sundays until further notice. The route will start on regular route through East End, then north on Simpson to Intercity Shopping Centre, south on Simpson to City Hall Terminal, and return to the East End. Service will arrive every 20 minutes between 9AM and 6PM. A schedule will be published to the Transit website shortly. http://www.thunderbay.ca/Assets/Living/Transit/Schedules/East+End+Sunday+Schedule+and+Map.pdf
dj.surf.lfs Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Posted June 12, 2012 Transit Master Plan is up. I hope they add a PDF version as it seems the online reader does not allow downloading.
tbaytransit Posted June 14, 2012 Report Posted June 14, 2012 Transit Master Plan is up. I hope they add a PDF version as it seems the online reader does not allow downloading. There's a link on the ISSUU Page below the doc: http://issuu.com/tbtransit/docs/transit_master_plan/7#download
dj.surf.lfs Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Posted June 15, 2012 There's a link on the ISSUU Page below the doc: http://issuu.com/tbt...plan/7#download Thanks. New stop flags are up on all southbound Simpson stops and at City Hall.
vid Posted June 15, 2012 Report Posted June 15, 2012 Cool. I'll have to check them out when I get home. Because they're in front of my apartment and I don't really have a choice, I'll see them anyway.
dj.surf.lfs Posted June 23, 2012 Author Report Posted June 23, 2012 Stop numbers up to 1235 (Edward & Redwood southbound) now have the new signs.
KWICbill Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 Saw 214 on a wrecker this morning with a trail of oil down the street. Hopefully it's terminal.
vid Posted July 8, 2012 Report Posted July 8, 2012 I saw that too, pulling into the transit garage. I am guessing that is why there is an oil spill at Red River and Court in front of the BMO? Considering the bus is 14 years old now, I doubt they would fix it even if it was repairable, because Red River and Court is a mess and 214 has been having problems for years now.
KWICbill Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 Red River and Algoma was where it was but the oil went all the way back to Court.
vid Posted July 9, 2012 Report Posted July 9, 2012 Wow. If it was that bad then I seriously doubt it's ever going into service again.
vid Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Unit 20-214 is officially a Zombie Bus. It's like a possum, playing dead so that it doesn't get eaten.
dj.surf.lfs Posted July 20, 2012 Author Report Posted July 20, 2012 Contract for the new buses is expected to be awarded to Nova Bus on Monday.
vid Posted July 21, 2012 Report Posted July 21, 2012 THUMBS Down to Thunder Bay Transit’s “eco-friendly green bus stop signs. It might have seemed like a good idea in winter, but summer’s green foliage makes them incredibly difficult to see. Unless you know for certain where the stops are, it’s easy to walk past them and not notice them at all. Give me back the old blue ones anytime. They might not have been beautiful but at least you could recognize them for what they were.” Aww.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now