Jova42R

On 8/20/2020 at 12:07 AM, KenrichYT said:

Banned for having "Future" in your name.

Banned for favoring D40LFs over E40LFRs.

On 1/10/2020 at 12:24 PM, TTC Guy said:

Banned for having an underscore in your name

Banned for having a space in your name (L O L)

On 9/16/2020 at 11:50 AM, Jova42R said:

On 9/15/2020 at 10:06 PM, Orion6025 said:

The only place they legally cannot stop you from taking photos at is the street. Parking lot is UCAT property as well and they have every right to kick people out from there as well

Ah ok - did not know!

I've been tracking UCAT recently, it appears it is mostly International cutaways (numbered up to 78, i think) and a few NGs and Gilligs. OGs appear to be done for. In addition, it appears that two new buses have appeared, numbered in the 90xx and 91xx series, pretty sure they are ex-Kingston Citibus Gilligs.

On 3/30/2020 at 6:12 PM, DCTransitFilms said:

Never knew that. It also said on CPTDB Wiki that 17064 and 17068 are owned by Matador Tours and the rest are unknown. And 18118 and 18119 are back with NJ Transit I assume. 

 

Imo NJ transit can give 17063-1770 to DeCamp Bus Lines or Coach USA

Sorry for the old post bump, but is there any additional info on Matador Tours? I've seen an older (2005ish) Prevost LeMirage XL-III operating around Manhattan with a sign that says that it is an NYP shuttle bus. (Also, I saw a van numbered 02 that said the same thing, oddly). Does anyone have any info about Matador?

On 6/17/2020 at 6:08 PM, Orion6025 said:

https://njtplans.com/downloads/capital-project-sheets/separated/NJ_Transit_Bus_Fleet.pdf

So...where are the 21xxx MCI's going to? IIRC, most garages that have the D4000s can't get 45-footers. Any insight?

Also, I'm assuming NABI Suburban replacement will be NFI XD40 suburbans? Because the transits are almost guaranteed to be NFI after the contract for the XD60s. Also, what will replace the 31-LFWs? Would baby Gilligs do the job, or would NJT buy Alexander Dennis (to keep with NFI Group?) Is any of this known yet?

On 9/26/2020 at 5:28 PM, PCC Guy said:

On 9/26/2020 at 1:29 PM, Wayside Observer said:

COVID-19 Causing Stress, Depression and Obsessive Behaviour In Alberta Survey

 

On 9/26/2020 at 1:29 PM, Wayside Observer said:

COVID-19 Causing Stress, Depression and Obsessive Behaviour In Alberta Survey

It definitely is causing stress. I am also very wary around people who don't have masks (and usually carry an extra supply of them to give people when they don't have any). This is for two reasons:

1. I actually had COVID-19 (back in April) - I recovered, and it was a mild case, but it was still extremely stressful and unpleasant
2. My mother also had COVID-19, also a mild case, and she also recovered, but she is still in the high-risk group.
3. These people are risking killing everyone around them
   1. So essentially they are selfish idiotic subhuman brats

So for that reason, I have been avoiding certain areas that have low mask compliance. Oddly enough, Staten Island, the place that has the lowest mask compliance, also appears to be where people care if they are fined $50. So, most people have shut up about it, and worn masks.

On 9/24/2020 at 7:37 PM, metrolinecoach111 said:

It's partially Columbia who has a say in seating capacity and also which terminal is doing what job, as the CX35's used there are only based out of Hoboken.  The C2045's on the route, from your observation mean that they're out of town drivers.  They generally would want to keep them on a relatively easier route vs. the Brooklyn which requires a lot of knowledge of Manhattan streets.  

Looks like they are slowly putting more and more CX35s on the shuttles. Also, J4500s have started appearing en masse. Seen below are to pics of 1618.

Seen here are two pictures of 2020 Motor Coach Industries J4500 #1618 operating on the Columbia University Brooklyn Commuter Route. Launced in September 2020, Columbia's commuter system operates Academy coach buses from Hoboken and Leonardo Garages. All four routes branch out from Columbia's three campuses, with one going to Citi Field in Queens and Riverdale in The Bronx, one going to Tillary Street in Brooklyn, one going to Penn Station - 34 Street on the west side of Manhattan, and one going to Stuyvesant Square - 14 Street on the east side of Manhattan.

On 9/1/2020 at 6:09 AM, Orion6025 said:

 

Ok just heard from a friend that 6728 is at WF...I have no clue why (or HOW) this happened, but it apparently has.

Also, 6692 is now at Quill.

2 minutes ago, Doppelkupplung said:

I'm pretty sure you could put a 4 cylinder ISB in a hybrid artic if you wanted- main thing is longevity and fuel economy. In a series hybrid artic, you could tune a 6.7 to the same power rating as an L9, but the 6.7 will have to work harder to deal with the load/electrical demand on it than the L9 will to keep the batteries charged. That means it'll have to use more fuel to operate at that higher rpm, something the ISB likely hasn't been optimized for. If you're running that 6.7 harder than the L9 every day for say, 12 years, chances are it won't last as long as the L9 hence why its hard to come across ISB artics. In parallels its the same case, especially since the diesel motor is directly connected to the wheels. 

Would an IS/B6.7 tuned up produce the same emissions as an L9 or would it be lower?

On 9/24/2020 at 7:37 PM, metrolinecoach111 said:

It's partially Columbia who has a say in seating capacity and also which terminal is doing what job, as the CX35's used there are only based out of Hoboken.  The C2045's on the route, from your observation mean that they're out of town drivers.  They generally would want to keep them on a relatively easier route vs. the Brooklyn which requires a lot of knowledge of Manhattan streets.  

The Yankee Stadium route has been discountinued (finally), and replaced with an East Manhattan route (yay!)

So, I'd say more likely than not, this'll get all 45-fters, because UWS-LES is a 2-3 transfer deal in most cases, so people will ride this.

Theoretically, could you use a smaller engine (B6.7-size) in an artic with a beefed up hybrid system? Would this make any sense?

Also, why does Allison dominate in the heavy duty hybrid market with the H 50 EP? Why don't more transit agencies use the BAE HDS 300?

Hi all!

I'm from NYC (and hence know almost nothing about TTC), and I was looking over the roster, but i noticed something odd. TTC only has XE40s, no other Xcelsior models. Is there any reason for this?

Best,

Jova42R

The Brooklyn Navy Yard operates two shuttle routes to/from the Navy Yard, one to DUMBO-High Street, the other to Atlantic Terminal and Fort Greene.

Their fleet is as follows:

81xx series - 2017 Grande West Vicinity buses, 8178-8182, 8192 (buses track without the "81" prefix.)

82xx series - 2017 Grande West Vicinity buses - ex-Grande West demo, 8209 and 8210. These buses were bought to replace spare buses #101 and #102, which are Freightliner cutaways. These buses HAVE NOT entered service yet.

1xx series - 2011 Freightliner cutaways - 101 and 102. Spare buses, painted in a red scheme.

Former fleet:

#1, 2015 Arboc Spirit of Liberty

#2, 2015 Starcraft Bus Allstar XL cutaway

Both were replaced by the 81xx series.

The buses track at bny.transloc.com.

Also, the wiki here: https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Brooklyn_Navy_Yard_Shuttle, needs to be updated with the above info.

Update on the MTA's order of electric buses:

The 5 XE40s at Quill are doing well, running mainly on the M42 and M50. Some drivers I talked to criticized the top-heaviness of the bus, especially when doing the M50 route.

The 15 XE60s at Quill are all delivered, with 4956 and 4961 being the last to be delivered.

The 5 Proterras at GA are doing well, running a lot recently. They may order more Proterras, it is unclear as of yet.

Seen above is a side-by-side pic from a few weeks ago, when 4961 was brand-new, with 4959, both on the M86-SBS.

Update on Columbia's XE40s:

2991-2992 have been reliably running every day for months now.

2993 had some battery issues in May, these have since been fixed.

2994 is currently out of service due to battery issues.

2995 has been reliably running every day for months now.

2996 was in a major crash, this has since been fixed.

Because of a bus shortage of 1 bus, and 2994 being OOS, two of the old Novas have been reactivated - usually it is 2118 and 2115, but occasionally 2117 and 2116 also fill in. 2114 appears to be retired.

ALSO: Columbia may be testing Proterras, according to a driver I talked to, as they are not huge fans of the XE40s - they have been having problems.

We will see.

Anyway, that's an update on NFI's electric buses in NYC

17 hours ago, r142a_7795 said:

The Bx12 runs are only during the summer so no.

The Bx1, 2, 9, and 15 are all fair game. Each of those routes see quite a few standard 40-ft buses during the AM and PM rush hours.

It got moved to LGA now for some reason, so we'll see. Personally, I'd like to see it test in three phases - one in Manhattan (MHV or MJQ), one in Brooklyn (FP or ENY), and one in Staten Island (YU or CA) to test how the newer hybrids did there. The NG HEVs didn't do so well, but the LFS HEVs might. Also, maybe testing on the S89 for the highway portion.

EDIT: There is a chance that the TA might send some to the BX as a test, but I would say probably, at least the first batch, won't go there. Also, what is replacing MTAB's 2004-05 OGs? XDE40s? And when it comes time for the 2007 OGs (68xx, 37xx) to retire, what will replace those?

0022 is at KB.

@Orion6025 is there any chance it will test on KB's artic routes? (Bx1, Bx2, Bx9, Bx15, some Bx12 trips)

For NYU: There is just a blank link at the LFS page - I think this was one of @Orion6025's former pictures.

https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/New_York_University

Anyhow, here is 2144.

Also, the routes can be found on the wikipedia page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYU_Transportation

For MTA: There is no picture for the XE40 - here is 0011 on the M50. https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Metropolitan_Transportation_Authority

Please feel free to add these pictures!

53 minutes ago, metrolinecoach111 said:

Great pictures!

The equipment used for these shuttles each day may shift, specifically with the Manhattan and Brooklyn services based on the terminal working the job.  If it's Hoboken, NJ, they can send anything from Prevost H3-45's (they've used them) to the CX35s and 45s you've mentioned.  The J45's are from Leonardo and the C2045's are from other terminals.

 

Thanks!

I know that a few of the CX45s are at Leonardo, but its good to know the J4500s are there. The prevosts do occasionally come out. IMO, they should be running exclusivley 35-ft buses on the Queens-Riverdale route because it has pathetically low ridership. Then send the J4500s to the other three shuttles, and the CX45s can go to charter duties.

(Not putting the link for obvious reasons)

I opened up this tracker, and ends up you can do all this stuff...

Considering that the link is directly online on a very public webpage, I was wondering if any of you had seen this before, and if yes, how I should deal with it.

Columbia Transportation has started new "Commuter" shuttle routes, for people commuting to campus. These are "express"-style services and operate Academy coach buses. To track these buses, go to columbia.passiogo.com.

The routes are:

• Manhattan Commuter
  • Penn Station-Columbus Cir-Upper West Side-Morningside-CUIMC
  • Usually operates CX45s and J4500s.
    • One CX35 tested for one day, but it appears they are now running exclusivley CX45s and J4500s.
• Brooklyn Commuter
  • Brooklyn-14 St-Penn Station-Morningside-CUIMC
  • Usually operates CX45s and J4500s.
• Yankee Stadium Commuter
  • Yankee Stadium-CUIMC-Morningside
  • Usually operates C2045s
• Queens-Riverdale Commuter
  • Citi Field-Astoria-Morningside-CUIMC-Inwood-Riverdale
  • Usually operates CX45s, with one C2045, and one CX35.

Here are some pics:

2020 Van Hool CX45 #6851 on the Brooklyn Route

2013 Van Hool C2045 #6659 on the Manhattan Route

2015 MCI J4500 #1611 on the Manhattan Route

2017 Van Hool CX45 #3516 on the Manhattan Route.

Rest In Peace.

Could we have a memorial somewhere? Every forum needs one, as this is very far-reaching.

18 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

If by a while you mean that they won't be retired immediately, then that's probable. But they'll still be retired fairly soon.

Ok.

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About the future electric bus order:

Recently, I was out fanning proterras, and I met a dispatcher and decided to ask about new buses.

The MTA will get:

• Proterra ZX5s
• New Flyer XE40s
• BYD K9M
  • may be a test fleet
• Nova LFSe+
  • unclear, may be a single test bus

In addition, the MTA may get BYD K11Ms, because one was ghosting routes in the Bronx, according to this dispatcher.

According to him, UP is also testing a 2020 MCI D4500CT (diesel). It is as of yet unnumbered and untrackable, although it will probably be numbered either 0024 or somewhere in the 005x series. This could mean D4500CTHs in the future, although I'm not sure.

He also said that when/if the MTA gets electric coaches, they will PROBABLY be MCI and/or VanHool.

11 hours ago, MVTArider said:

It still has the classic Protato look despite a little tweaking in the design. Glad to read this new model has improved suspension. Though it wasn't terrible, that buckboard ride was one downside to the Catalyst models.

I'd be interested to see how the additional front charging port works with a bike rack option, or if that would be a 'one or the other' thing.

Personally, I really liked the look of the Catalyst, but the ZX5 is definitely more mainstream. As you said, it still is obviously a Protato, I still like the styling.

https://www.proterra.com/press-release/proterra-launches-zx5-electric-bus/

Out with the Catalyst, In with the ZX5.

14 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

hey're supposed to retire Charleston's D4500CLs.

oh ok.

14 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

I'm not sure what's going on with the 2001-02 MCI retirement micromanaging but that's not how they retire buses. If there is a mechanically sound 2001-02 and a 2005-2007 that's a shop queen who just recently shit the bed, the 05-07 is going before the 01-02.

ah so flipdots could stay around for a while?

13 hours ago, Orion6025 said:

The only place they legally cannot stop you from taking photos at is the street. Parking lot is UCAT property as well and they have every right to kick people out from there as well

Ah ok - did not know!