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  1. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    Yes and TTC kept Bowls for way over 20 years and you don't see them keeping Orion VIIs for 20 years.. And regarding 7901, please see this: To be quite honest, I agree with you in that I'd love to see them make it a few more years, but beyond personal liking for a bus, I just don't see a justification to keep them running. Those Classics have had their time and then some; everything has to retire, and those Classics, even the ex-Calgary ones, look wayyy past their prime lmao.
  2. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    Well if this does happen, peg retirement with the december 2018-january 2019 order. Though i can't imagine why they'd want to keep a handful of (non-museum) 23-27 year old buses longer than they need to...
  3. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    Yes, the numbers aren't working out so well (11 classics vs. 10 novas), but that's the idea. Just as well, the 1801-1817s didn't do 1-for-1 replacement so unless they know something I don't know, they could probably afford to retire everything despite the 1 bus defecit (Hell I'm surprised they kept 9512 and 9519 but I suppose that despite their lower build quality, the frames are "new" enough to not have deteriorated too much. Unless STO has a severe bus shortage, plans to create a route or increase service on (a) route(s), it doesn't make sense to order 17 buses and retire nothing, especially when there's a fleet of aging buses that should be on the retirement block anyway (from a personal and economic perspective)
  4. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    Makes sense. 1801-1817 have to have retired something.
  5. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    Yikes... I was kind of worried that the lack of reports meant that they retired a few/all Classics... At least there are a few left.
  6. RIPTA (Rhode Island)

    Does RIPTA still have the 2004 Orion Vs in service?
  7. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    How do you know if they have GPS units? Are they trackable?
  8. STO 7901 Spottings (2018)

    17 in Jan-Feb. more later this year.
  9. STO 89xx-95xx Classic Spottings/Retirement Watch

    That said though, why would STO bother to keep a small subfleet of ancient buses? I don't know how it works in Canada that well, but in whatever way you cut the cake, they're still old, maintenance-heavy, fuel-inefficient, high floor buses that are inferior in terms of economics and passenger comfort to a fresh new LFS. Unless STO is doing some sort of service expansion, there's no need for them to keep a few past the complete delivery of this upcoming order. Unless they have a 7901-esque service life planned for one. To be quite honest, I really hope you're right. But I don't really know how realistic it'd be.
  10. STO bus spottings

    Ah crap... Is it undergoing some burn-in testing or is everything just gonna quickly stream in over the next few days? How will it take for them to get delivered?
  11. MTA NYCT Subway/Bus discussion

    Sad news: It seems 9674 will be the last of the 9350-9699 (1997-1998 RTS order) to run. 9457 and 9667 are reportedly sitting OOS without fareboxes at Grand Avenue and are very likely to be scrapped... The end is likely near..
  12. STO 7901 Spottings (2018)

    Besides the one listed on the cptdb wiki [111 Rue Jean-Proulx, Gatineau, QC J8Z 1T4], where's the other one located? Crap I'm used to systems where drivers just keep on driving since they're not allowed to get out of the bus en route... Oh well lol. Bad I assume? -- Sorry about the crapton of questions; I'm trying to figure out how to pull off a day-trip fanning OC Transpo/STO (With emphasis on the Classics...). Thank you guys for all your help so far.
  13. STO 7901 Spottings (2018)

    Yeah I may just settle for a few Classics lol. That's a step I'm not willing to take for a bowl. I guess kind of building off of this, is STO friendly with busfans? Like if I camp out near their garage entrance, will they (likely) take issue to that or can I just chill there and be left alone? Thank you.
  14. Who's buying buses?

    I know I'm replying very late and you probably have figured it out by now, but just in case you still didn't know, ART confirmed getting XN40s. There are photos of them from mid January.
  15. MTA NYCT Subway/Bus discussion

    Further fleet changes: 3 more 2003 Orion VII CNGs have been scrapped (7642, 7669, 7679), bringing the total number of active 2003s down to 11 (12 total Gen Is including 2002, #7560), 1 2002 D60HF was scrapped (5528) bring down the total number of active 2002s to 30. 9539 and 9690 are now both scrapped from the storage line. 2 2004 VII CNGs have been scrapped (7743, 7776), which is rather interesting considering that these are among the first to be scrapped for reasons other than being oddballs (7691 and 7746 scrapped for having Doosan engines + Allison transmissions). The only other "normal" one that has been scrapped was 7692.. And no new CNG buses have been delivered to West Farms lately either to retire these. There have been some D60s and LFS-As moved in but they either just retire (other) D60s or send a D60 or LFS-A elsewhere. 5456 has been delivered to Quill, bringing up the total 2017 LFS-A at the MTA/Quill to 9. -- In other news, on Saturday, an XE40 finally ran on a route other than the M42, the M50.