Broward County Transit Bus Update

[The Floridian]

18 hours ago, MDT_5185 said:

BCTs begun to put BRTs out on weekends to help build mileage on them so they can retire them. As of today currently, 1200 is on the 34, and yesterday 1172 and 1209 ran the 12 all day. The lowest mileage unit I seen was 1161 with 100k miles. I’m guessing they’re trying to ramp all of their mileage up to around 500k miles. The only unit I’ve seen that has reached that point already is 1205 as of now.

Isnt that irrelevant since they have all surpassed 12 years and are eligible for retirement regardless of mileage.

[BCT Bus 1123]

On 6/23/2025 at 5:28 AM, TrainsspotterFTL said:

1123 is probably a temporary bus until they get something new(I said probably,so I wouldn't know too much lol)

 

1123 is not temporary. Why would they put all that work into it for several months. And only have it as a temporary use. 1123 is going to be around for a long time. And ain't going anywhere anytime soon. I believe the reason why 1123 was kept. Probably cause it was durable and dependable then the rest. And they probably was planning on keeping one Gen-2 in the fleet. And i believe the other few 1100's was options to pick to. But they probably did not meet their requirements. Meaning no engine issues break downs and other maintenance problems won't acure. And that's has to be the reason why the other few 1100's was not activated. Cause to many maintenance problems. So they see that 1123 does not give a hole line of maintenance issues. So they decided to reactivate it. And plan to keep it for several more years. Due to it's durability reliability and dependability. 

[The Floridian]

8 hours ago, BCT Bus 1123 said:

1123 is not temporary. Why would they put all that work into it for several months. And only have it as a temporary use. 1123 is going to be around for a long time. And ain't going anywhere anytime soon. I believe the reason why 1123 was kept. Probably cause it was durable and dependable then the rest. And they probably was planning on keeping one Gen-2 in the fleet. And i believe the other few 1100's was options to pick to. But they probably did not meet their requirements. Meaning no engine issues break downs and other maintenance problems won't acure. And that's has to be the reason why the other few 1100's was not activated. Cause to many maintenance problems. So they see that 1123 does not give a hole line of maintenance issues. So they decided to reactivate it. And plan to keep it for several more years. Due to it's durability reliability and dependability. 

It feels like its in the shop every other week. There have been countless stretches where it has gone weeks without running so I dont think its as dependent as they would have hoped.

[TrainsspotterFTL]

I saw 1433 on 47th Ave what does that mean(it wasn't in service so it was weird)

[BCT Bus 1123]

Probably the unit was not in service due to some mechanical issues with it. And the driver probably was on his or her way to take it into the garage. That's the best explanation i could give. Right as of now.

I always did wonder why non of the 2007's never had the black mask along with the breeze livery. like the 2005's one was silver and one white with the black mask. And a few 2002's and 2003's had a black mask. Majority silver and a few white paint 2003's. I just don't understand why the 2007's didn't have it. It could of been a few silver and white 2007's with black mask. they had 48 of them total.

And i don't want anyone to misunderstand what i'm saying. I not putting it like the ain't had no silver 2002-2003 or 2005 2007's.

Cause they did, Im just saying why the 2007's that was painted silver, couldn't have a black mask with the livery. With a few white paint ones to like that. 

[HR2012TPA]

On 6/26/2025 at 3:43 PM, The Floridian said:

It feels like its in the shop every other week. There have been countless stretches where it has gone weeks without running so I dont think its as dependent as they would have hoped.

And when it does run, it's usually ONLY during weekday rush periods.

1123 is out on the 60 this morning per TransSee, but I will not be surprised if it gets replaced by a 20xxx by noon.

[BCT Bus 1123]

I see that there are majority of 18's running the route 18 today 

Still hoping that what was said about the proterras receiving new parts is accurate and they are being worked on. And likely to come back into service soon. And i wanted to share this news a found out on the ZX5's, they are now being manufactured and is in production by another EV company, PhoenixEV, if others aren't aware of this. 

Here's the site in the what i found out on the product page. 

[HR2012TPA]

Phoenix Motors is the company that took over Proterra's EV assets.

[The Floridian]

Just saw one if the 1300s, I think 1320 at Young Circle with the new colors. Blue back and all unlike the 1419 design.

[BCT Bus 1123]

I've been thinking about this for a while now. I can understand why the proterras aren't running. But what i don't understand is why the Electric MCI's are the same don't run. I've never read up on anything concerning from any other transit agencies or coach agencies complaining about mechanical problems with MCI electric coaches. So i don't get what's the problem with BCT electric coaches. Now With Proterra they was slammed with constant problems and the anxiety operators had with their products constantly complaining to the manufacturer about their faulty system and parts batteries and excetra. So what i trying to find out what is the reason for the 2 electric MCI coaches not running. So every time BCT makes an order for electric transit buses or commuter coach buses the same thing's going to happen?. They run for 2-4 months probably then uh ow! now theirs something wrong with them they can't run in just sit in the lot parked for months to 2 years. I hope everyone get the point im trying to make. Every time they get electric buses it's always a problem with them. If thats the case start back ordering diesel buses and hybrids buses and if they want to try out something new order some CNG buses. I wouldn't even give them the idea to try out hydrogen fuel cell electric buses like NFI XHE40 cause they might find a way and claim it's something wrong with them and then they get held and parked at the garage for months to a year or so. I think the best options for BCT is diesel hybrid or CNG. don't know about electric since they claim they always having problems with electric buses. 

[Florida-Transit-Fan]

1320 is in the new livery

[The Floridian]

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[TrainsspotterFTL]

That looks nice in the new livery

On 7/18/2025 at 2:32 PM, Florida-Transit-Fan said:

1320 is in the new livery

 

[HR2012TPA]

On 7/18/2025 at 1:38 PM, BCT Bus 1123 said:

I've been thinking about this for a while now. I can understand why the proterras aren't running. But what i don't understand is why the Electric MCI's are the same don't run. I've never read up on anything concerning from any other transit agencies or coach agencies complaining about mechanical problems with MCI electric coaches. So i don't get what's the problem with BCT electric coaches. Now With Proterra they was slammed with constant problems and the anxiety operators had with their products constantly complaining to the manufacturer about their faulty system and parts batteries and excetra. So what i trying to find out what is the reason for the 2 electric MCI coaches not running. So every time BCT makes an order for electric transit buses or commuter coach buses the same thing's going to happen?. They run for 2-4 months probably then uh ow! now theirs something wrong with them they can't run in just sit in the lot parked for months to 2 years. I hope everyone get the point im trying to make. Every time they get electric buses it's always a problem with them. If thats the case start back ordering diesel buses and hybrids buses and if they want to try out something new order some CNG buses. I wouldn't even give them the idea to try out hydrogen fuel cell electric buses like NFI XHE40 cause they might find a way and claim it's something wrong with them and then they get held and parked at the garage for months to a year or so. I think the best options for BCT is diesel hybrid or CNG. don't know about electric since they claim they always having problems with electric buses. 

Honestly, I don't see Broward going hybrid. Either they'll order subsequent diesel buses or go CNG. I feel that the only FL agencies that will retain hybrids for the long term are Gainesville & PSTA.

Idk why the MCI electrics are apparently having issues. I've heard a couple other agencies with small batches of MCI electrics also having issues.

[TrainsspotterFTL]

Honestly Diesel is the best option for them

6 hours ago, HR2012TPA said:

Honestly, I don't see Broward going hybrid. Either they'll order subsequent diesel buses or go CNG. I feel that the only FL agencies that will retain hybrids for the long term are Gainesville & PSTA.

Idk why the MCI electrics are apparently having issues. I've heard a couple other agencies with small batches of MCI electrics also having issues.

Let's just hope we hear some news from BCT this year for future stuff fleet wise

[The Floridian]

15 hours ago, TrainsspotterFTL said:

Honestly Diesel is the best option for them

Let's just hope we hear some news from BCT this year for future stuff fleet wise

While I agree that diesel buses perform the best down here, but it will likely set off a political firestorm if the revert to diesels after touting a full electric switchover for years. Perhaps they will demo some electric gilligs and see how that plays out.

[BCT Bus 1123]

I don't understand whats up with these electric buses. the only option i can give BCT is going back to BYD NFI or Gillig for electric bus options. If it's still their main priority goal to becoming an all electric fleet by whatever of the coming years they mentioned.

On 7/19/2025 at 10:56 PM, TrainsspotterFTL said:

That looks nice in the new livery

 

Edited July 21 by BCT Bus 1123

[BCT Bus 1123]

3 hours ago, BCT Bus 1123 said:

I don't understand whats up with these electric buses. the only option i can give BCT is going back to BYD NFI or Gillig for electric bus options. If it's still their main priority goal to becoming an all electric fleet by whatever of the coming years they mentioned.

Will that makes 3 NABI's with the new livery now 1123 1320 and 1419 wonder if they'll do 1203 1200 or 1209 out of them 3 options.

[BCT Bus 1123]

Will i'm guessing as well the 60-BRT's or parked?, at the lot. or is done?, and are retired. Haven't tracked any on transee for almost 2-3 months i believe. non running the 72 19 or 441 breeze. the last one i known to run was 2 months ago during the afternoon was 1154 running the 10. after that haven't seen or heard of any others out running the articulated routes. 

[The Floridian]

21 hours ago, BCT Bus 1123 said:

Will i'm guessing as well the 60-BRT's or parked?, at the lot. or is done?, and are retired. Haven't tracked any on transee for almost 2-3 months i believe. non running the 72 19 or 441 breeze. the last one i known to run was 2 months ago during the afternoon was 1154 running the 10. after that haven't seen or heard of any others out running the articulated routes. 

Likely done. The pre 2013 buses really havent been doing well and often dont make it through their trips. 1209 got replaced with a gillig today on the 11 after presumably breaking down.

[BCT Bus 1123]

Can anyone explain if the black above the windows and around the front of the 42-BRT's is removable?. Or it's permanent painted like the silver. 

[The Floridian]

7 hours ago, BCT Bus 1123 said:

Can anyone explain if the black above the windows and around the front of the 42-BRT's is removable?. Or it's permanent painted like the silver. 

Either way they could just paint over it with another color if they wanted to.

[BCT Bus 1123]

On 6/9/2025 at 4:47 PM, The Floridian said:

Hybrids evidently dont do well at BCT so I would wonder why they didnt retire all the pre 2013 hybrids and kept the Gen 2 Diesels and ordered more artics in 2023.

I'm just going back and reviewing this, likely the reason why they never retired non of the 2013 hybrids is likely because they don't really give that much issues (break downs), can't say how they run now, but im guessing they was pretty much dependable back in 2023. I honestly don't hear as much of the 2013 diesels or hybrids breaking down, like them 2011 brt's regularly do. Me honestly i don't hear drivers complaining about the 2013. They seem to drive them with joy, so i believe the 2013's area reliability to BCT. If i am correct. 

17 hours ago, The Floridian said:

Either way they could just paint over it with another color if they wanted to.

Thanks cause i was just wondering about a 2011 or 2012 brt getting the new livery. With all that black to the top windows and around the front of the brt. How would it look like that. But if they was clver, if they did do one of them, paint over it silver, for  it wont look odd. 

[BCT Bus 1123]

On 5/18/2025 at 1:35 AM, TrainsspotterFTL said:

That's really unfortunate..... hopefully it gets fixed soon

 

 

Also just to warn you 1414 sounds absolutely terrible right now if you see it one of these days you'll see. When I rode it on the 36 it sounded actually bad

Forgot to ask about this unit when i first saw this statement, anyways im just curious about it, as of now. Anyone knows how 1414 doing as of now?. with the engine. Or transmission?. 

[BCT Bus 1123]

On 7/22/2025 at 4:36 PM, The Floridian said:

Likely done. The pre 2013 buses really havent been doing well and often dont make it through their trips. 1209 got replaced with a gillig today on the 11 after presumably breaking down.

Well to me personally that seems like an issue with the articulated routes. Like 72 the busiest around afternoon to evening times. And the 19 busiest during afternoon. So since it's officially confirmed that the 60-BRT's, are likely done. So what does this mean for replacements. Are they going to replace them with a order of new artics?. But with the proterras, it's highly clear that a replacement order for the 2011 artic brts, will be overlooked. In favor for options to for the proterras, if they don't come back. So likey the focus is ordering  buses for the shortage. And also as well i heard statements saying as if, they are trying to retired all the 42-BRT's as fast as the can. So im thinking, the 2021 pros, and the 2023 pros done. Along with all the NABI BRT's. They are highly likey going to have to make 3 or so orders of new buses. Or a better option just make one big order of buses, like they did in 2020. To resolve this situation here.