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New routes in March 2010 - 427 & 747

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Today on the 747, I saw: 701, 702 (haha Joseph it appears again without you being there!), 704, 707, 708, 711, 713, 717 and 718.

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Couldn't hide from me forever!

Got photos of every coach rented by the STM until they decide to rent a new one.

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On September 17, 2016 at 8:20 PM, MTL66 said:

New updated list. Ty to @novalfs26001 and @SMS for filling in some of the blanks!

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702 has a ZF ASTronic transmission. VIN 2M93JMDA75W063127. That's the only new one I have...keep getting the same buses

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19 hours ago, novalfs26001 said:

702 has a ZF ASTronic transmission. VIN 2M93JMDA75W063127. That's the only new one I have...keep getting the same buses

Interesting. Thanks for the correction and for the new VIN :)

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Here are some VINs

74-701  (2005) (Galland 456) ZF ASTronic transmission. 2M93JMDA65W062891

74-709  (2005) ZF ASTronic transmission. 2M93JMDAX5W063025

74-717 (2003) Allison Transmission. 1M83JMPA23P061959

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I rode 74-701 last Friday, good lord what a horrible jerky transmission despite the best efforts of the driver.

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STM will begin returning coaches starting next week.  6 will be going back on Monday.  The blue one (74-701) will be one of the first to go due to its unpopularity and unreliability.  74-707 is also on the list to go, it's also very often out of service.

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Here are some more VINs for those interested:

74-705 2005 with Allison Transmission 2M93JMPA35W062794

74-707 2003 with Allison Transmission 1M83JMPA23P062111

74-710 2008 with Allison Transmission 2M93JMFAX8W064547

74-711 2009 with Allison Transmission 2MG3JMFA79W065133

74-714 2001 with Allison Transmission 1M83JMPA81P061610

74-715 2004 with Allison Transmission 2M93JMPA04W062606

74-718 2003 with Allison Transmission 2M93JMPA63W062317

 

Missing: 74-708 and 74-716 (drove at beginning, didn't note VINs)

              74-703 and 74-712 (never drove these buses, at least not yet!)

 

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On 2016-11-18 at 9:48 AM, novalfs26001 said:

STM will begin returning coaches starting next week.  6 will be going back on Monday.  The blue one (74-701) will be one of the first to go due to its unpopularity and unreliability.  74-707 is also on the list to go, it's also very often out of service.

The better ones will stick around longer and get returned at a slower rate? Also, if MR is getting the new batch of hybrids again, which buses is Stinson getting to replace the coaches?

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UPDATE:  looks like 9 coaches will leave us this week-end, supposedly the most problematic ones.  A mechanic was removing the farebox in 74-707 today.  New hybrids have been (and will be) delivered to MR, MR has transferred some buses to Lasalle (25-000s if my observations are correct), and Lasalle has transferred 30-000s with one luggage rack to Stinson (we have at least 10 of them now).

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TVA Nouvelles says that the coach contract for the 747 line has been extended to January 8th 2017 for 8 or 9 coachs (half the fleet)

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74-708 was entering the 520 this early afternoon going towards Dorval.

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Here are the last 2 VINs for those interested 

74-708 - 2008 with Allison transmission 2M93JMHAX8W064741

74-712 - 2003 with Allison transmission 2M93JMPA83W062321

 

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The coach era at the STM is officially over. Last ones ran in revenue service on Wednesday. Only 2 are left in the yard with all 747 markings removed. 

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On 2017-01-06 at 9:40 PM, novalfs26001 said:

The coach era at the STM is officially over. Last ones ran in revenue service on Wednesday. Only 2 are left in the yard with all 747 markings removed. 

Too bad, it would of been a good thing for the 747 bus. I found the service ran great for the few times I used the 747 Coach Bus, there didnt seem to be any significant delays IMO.

 

Once again Thnk You @novalfs26001 for your help in obtaining the VIN numbers, many VIN collectors on Facebook were happy.

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Sorry if this has been covered, but are the 36-XXX hybrids not coming to the 747 now? If not, is the plan then for them to replace the 29/30/31-xxx 3rd gen LFS, which will then be brought into 747 service, with luggage racks? I took 31-004 the other day and it only has the 1 luggage rack - we left a bunch of people behind at YUL because we couldn't fit any more suitcases. 

Thanks for any updates you can provide :)!

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1 hour ago, Orcair said:

Sorry if this has been covered, but are the 36-XXX hybrids not coming to the 747 now? If not, is the plan then for them to replace the 29/30/31-xxx 3rd gen LFS, which will then be brought into 747 service, with luggage racks? I took 31-004 the other day and it only has the 1 luggage rack - we left a bunch of people behind at YUL because we couldn't fit any more suitcases. 

Thanks for any updates you can provide :)!

You know that the STM's management is very stupid, and what they did will make your blood boil. When Mont-Royal garage received more hybrids up to 36-050, they transferred 30-xxx to Stinson so that the latter will serve the 747 instead of the new hybrids. I mean, we pay 10$ for the 747 and because of that we deserve better buses!! Also the route only make sense with A/C buses which the hybrids have and the 30-xxx don't. The route would be much better off with coaches instead since it can hold more people and luggage; and if the REM to the airport gets built then we don't have to worry about the 747 anymore!

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10 minutes ago, anyfong said:

You know that the STM's management is very stupid, and what they did will make your blood boil. When Mont-Royal garage received more hybrids up to 36-050, they transferred 30-xxx to Stinson so that the latter will serve the 747 instead of the new hybrids. I mean, we pay 10$ for the 747 and because of that we deserve better buses!! Also the route only make sense with A/C buses which the hybrids have and the 30-xxx don't. The route would be much better off with coaches instead since it can hold more people and luggage; and if the REM to the airport gets built then we don't have to worry about the 747 anymore!

Thanks for that info - I thought that was the case (I've seen a lot of the new hybrids on the 24 now), but I was hoping I was wrong :(. As much as I like the 747, they have been increasingly off schedule for me - I've had to budget an extra bus trip, so that I don't have to pay for a cab out of stress. Can't wait for the REM!

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Actually, according to one of my STM contacts, all 107 hybrid buses from this year's order are slated to go to Stinson garage. So maybe there is hope for an air conditioned ride on the 747 after all!

On ‎2017‎-‎01‎-‎08 at 3:11 PM, anyfong said:

You know that the STM's management is very stupid, and what they did will make your blood boil. When Mont-Royal garage received more hybrids up to 36-050, they transferred 30-xxx to Stinson so that the latter will serve the 747 instead of the new hybrids. I mean, we pay 10$ for the 747 and because of that we deserve better buses!! Also the route only make sense with A/C buses which the hybrids have and the 30-xxx don't. The route would be much better off with coaches instead since it can hold more people and luggage; and if the REM to the airport gets built then we don't have to worry about the 747 anymore!

According to the latest roster that I have received, the order goes up to 36-051 for the hybrids. Mont-Royal bus garage currently accommodates 151 buses, whereas the larger Stinson can service 280 buses presently. Since this is a 747 discussion, LaSalle garage can only hold half of its designed capacity (181 buses). It will be interesting to see if LaSalle will once again take over full control of the 747 once the renovations there are done. I don't want to comment on whether the STM is mismanaged or not, but I would hope that complaints are addressed to customer service if not directly to the politicians and decision-makers faces at the monthly board meetings instead of to the poor driver! I would also like to think that the 747 can coexist with the REM since they serve different destinations directly, but this is now going off-topic.

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5 hours ago, SMS said:

Actually, according to one of my STM contacts, all 107 hybrid buses from this year's order are slated to go to Stinson garage. So maybe there is hope for an air conditioned ride on the 747 after all!

According to the latest roster that I have received, the order goes up to 36-051 for the hybrids. Mont-Royal bus garage currently accommodates 151 buses, whereas the larger Stinson can service 280 buses presently. Since this is a 747 discussion, LaSalle garage can only hold half of its designed capacity (181 buses). It will be interesting to see if LaSalle will once again take over full control of the 747 once the renovations there are done. I don't want to comment on whether the STM is mismanaged or not, but I would hope that complaints are addressed to customer service if not directly to the politicians and decision-makers faces at the monthly board meetings instead of to the poor driver! I would also like to think that the 747 can coexist with the REM since they serve different destinations directly, but this is now going off-topic.

I can confirm that the 747 has returned to LaSalle since Monday. Extras can be brought out of Stinson and St-Laurent.

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OK great! So they can run the dedicated airport shuttles with air conditioning like those early 31-000 series buses right?

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21 minutes ago, SMS said:

OK great! So they can run the dedicated airport shuttles with air conditioning like those early 31-000 series buses right?

I think they should.

Also, since the current order up to 36-051 is complete (or almost complete), when will the 2017 hybrids be delivered to Stinson?

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Lasalle theoretically has 36 buses with luggage racks (16 with 3 racks, 20 with 1 rack). Unfortunately they don't give priority to booking real 747 buses (with 3 racks) on the 747. Still waiting for news of the hybrids at Stinson.  Driver training has not even been scheduled yet!

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