M. David Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Welcome to the 1st-gen sightings thread. Please feel free to post any and all 1st-gen sightings, news, and retirements here. Current list of active 1st-gens (Last updated: September 21st, 2010 @ 18:44) Key to reading dates: (Date/Month/Year) The List 16-XXX 16-004 MR (27/08/10) 16-006 MR (08/09/10) 16-010 MR (31/08/10) 16-011 MR (01/09/10) 16-012 AN (25/05/10) 16-014 SL (02/09/10) 16-016 MR (09/09/10) 16-019 MR (30/08/10) 16-021 MR (21/07/10) 16-022 MR (01/09/10) 16-023 AN (24/08/10) 16-030 AN (12/03/10) 16-034 AN (29/07/10) 16-037 AN (18/08/10) 16-039 AN (25/02/10) 16-041 LE (09/09/10) 16-042 MR (24/08/10) 16-043 FR (18/11/09) 16-044 AN (11/08/10) 16-046 SL (20/09/10) 16-050 SL (01/09/10) 16-054 LE (03/11/09) 16-056 LE (03/08/10) 16-058 LE (15/09/10) 16-059 FR (29/07/10) 16-065 AN (05/08/10) 16-070 LE (08/03/10) 16-071 LE (14/06/10) 16-073 SL (23/02/10) 16-074 SL (14/09/10) 16-076 AN (07/09/10) 16-078 AN (20/06/10) 16-079 AN (29/07/10) 16-080 AN (25/08/10) 16-082 AN (07/09/10) 16-084 SL (07/09/10) 16-088 FR (22/07/10) 16-089 AN (03/01/10) 16-090 AN (03/05/10) 16-096 MR (28/08/10) 16-097 MR (05/08/10) 16-098 FR (01/09/10) 16-100 MR (16/08/10) 16-101 FR (28/07/10) 16-103 MR (12/08/10) 16-104 LE (11/03/10) 16-106 SL (07/07/10) 16-107 MR (26/07/10) 16-109 LE (27/07/10) 16-110 SL (23/07/10) 16-111 SL (23/06/10) 16-113 MR (20/09/10) 16-117 LE (30/08/10) 16-118 SL (01/04/10) 16-120 SL (16/02/10) 16-121 MR (26/07/10) 16-122 FR (17/08/10) 16-123 MR (15/09/10) 16-124 MR (16/06/10) 16-126 SL (14/09/10) 16-127 SL (08/03/10) 16-129 MR (08/09/10) 16-130 AN (31/08/10) 16-132 SL (30/08/10) 16-133 LA (19/02/10) 16-135 MR (22/07/10) 16-136 AN (12/05/10) 16-137 SL (14/09/10) 16-141 SL (20/07/10) 16-142 SL (03/09/10) 16-143 AN (07/04/10) 16-144 AN (30/03/10) 16-145 MR (12/09/10) 16-146 AN (25/02/10) 16-148 AN (29/07/10) 16-150 MR (07/09/10) 16-151 AN (16/06/10) 16-152 AN (22/08/10) 16-153 AN (30/03/10) 16-154 AN (25/02/10) 16-155 MR (18/08/10) 16-157 AN (28/01/10) 16-158 AN (22/02/10) 16-159 AN (16/06/10) 16-160 AN (25/08/10) 16-162 AN (20/08/10) 16-163 AN (31/08/10) 16-167 FR (31/08/10) 16-170 AN (19/11/09) 16-172 AN (30/06/10) 16-176 AN (25/08/10) 16-177 SL (26/07/10) 16-178 LE (31/08/10) 16-179 LE (16/02/10) 17-XXX 17-002 SL (30/08/10) 17-003 SL (16/09/10) 17-004 SL (02/02/10) 17-005 MR (24/08/10) 17-006 MR (08/09/10) 17-007 MR (30/08/10) 17-008 MR (10/08/10) 17-009 SL (28/06/10) 17-010 MR (30/08/10) 17-011 SL (12/06/10) 17-012 SD (05/08/10) 17-013 FR (14/09/10) 17-014 MR (09/09/10) 17-020 LE (25/02/10) 17-021 FR (29/03/10) 17-024 MR (31/08/10) 17-027 MR (12/08/10) 17-029 AN (14/06/10) 17-030 MR (14/09/10) 17-032 SL (21/04/10) 17-034 SL (20/07/10) 17-035 LE (04/03/10) 17-037 SL (08/03/10) 17-038 FR (13/09/10) 17-039 FR (28/04/10) 17-040 SL (27/07/10) 17-041 LE (09/02/10) 17-042 MR (16/11/09) 17-043 MR (09/08/10) 17-044 FR (29/07/10) 17-046 MR (05/08/10) 17-048 MR (14/09/10) 17-049 MR (21/09/10) 17-051 LE (01/09/10) 17-052 LE (17/09/10) 17-053 LE (17/06/10) 17-056 MR (30/08/10) 17-061 SL (05/04/10) 17-063 SL (08/03/10) 17-064 SL (31/05/10) 17-069 FR (14/09/10) 17-071 SD (25/07/10) 17-072 SL (27/07/10) 17-075 MR (20/09/10) 17-076 MR (14/09/10) 17-077 AN (07/09/10) 17-078 MR (01/05/10) 17-079 SD (22/08/10) 17-080 LE (03/03/10) 17-084 LE (15/02/10) 17-085 FR (07/09/10) 17-086 MR (20/09/10) 17-087 MR (25/08/10) 17-088 SD (09/06/10) 17-091 SL (21/06/10) 17-097 MR (24/08/10) 17-101 MR (28/07/10) 17-103 MR (05/08/10) 17-104 MR (24/08/10) 17-105 MR (26/08/10) 17-106 MR (27/08/10) 17-107 MR (26/03/10) 17-108 MR (28/07/10) 17-109 MR (24/08/10) 17-111 MR (02/09/10) 17-112 MR (04/03/10) 17-113 MR (05/01/10) 17-114 MR (22/07/10) 17-115 MR (31/08/10) 17-116 MR (12/08/10) 17-119 LE (06/07/10) 17-120 AN (11/03/10) 17-121 FR (10/08/10) 17-125 FR (12/08/10) 17-127 FR (31/08/10) 17-128 FR (17/09/10) 17-129 AN (29/07/10) 17-130 SL (20/07/10) 17-131 FR (28/07/10) 17-132 FR (20/06/10) 17-133 FR (25/08/10) 17-134 FR (29/07/10) 17-135 FR (07/09/10) 17-136 MR (31/08/10) 17-137 FR (09/09/10) 17-138 LE (16/09/10) 17-139 FR (02/05/10) 17-140 FR (07/09/10) 17-141 MR (28/07/10) 17-143 LE (07/09/10) 17-144 SL (27/07/10) 17-145 FR (23/06/10) 17-146 SD (29/07/10) 17-147 FR (28/01/10) 17-148 FR (09/09/10) 17-149 FR (07/09/10) 17-150 FR (19/02/10) 17-151 FR (03/06/10) 17-152 FR (08/03/10) 17-154 FR (08/03/10) 17-155 MR (08/03/10) 17-156 FR (30/06/10) 17-157 SL (20/07/10) 17-158 SL (05/03/10) 17-159 SL (27/07/10) 17-160 SL (21/09/10) 17-161 FR (07/09/10) 17-162 LE (24/03/10) 17-163 LE (03/06/10) 17-164 SD (17/09/10) 17-165 FR (29/07/10) 17-167 FR (03/09/10) 17-168 FR (07/09/10) 17-169 SL (20/07/10) 17-170 SL (12/07/10) 17-171 FR (01/09/10) 17-174 MR (14/09/10) 17-176 MR (16/09/10) 17-177 MR (22/06/10) 17-178 MR (07/09/10) 17-180 MR (30/08/10) 18-0XX 18-002 FR (08/04/10) 18-003 FR (18/08/10) 18-004 FR (09/08/10) 18-006 FR (14/09/10) 18-007 FR (02/05/10) 18-009 FR (08/07/10) 18-011 AN (31/08/10) 18-013 MR (19/07/10) 18-014 FR (09/09/10) 18-016 MR (31/08/10) 18-017 MR (21/09/10) 18-020 MR (25/08/10) 18-021 MR (01/09/10) 18-022 SL (16/03/10) 18-023 MR (16/09/10) 18-025 SD (29/07/10) 18-026 SL (26/07/10) 18-027 SD (21/04/10) 18-028 MR (14/09/10) 18-029 MR (01/03/10) 18-030 AN (09/09/10) 18-033 MR (01/09/10) 18-034 SD (06/09/10) 18-035 FR (27/08/10) 18-036 MR (01/09/10) 18-037 MR (24/02/10) 18-039 SL (05/03/10) 18-040 MR (16/07/10) 18-042 FR (07/09/10) 18-044 MR (14/09/10) 18-045 MR (29/07/10) 18-046 AN (02/05/10) 18-047 FR (30/06/10) 18-049 FR (25/02/10) 18-050 AN (23/02/10) 18-052 FR (14/09/10) 18-053 MR (08/12/09) 18-054 MR (25/05/10) 18-055 MR (16/09/10) 18-057 MR (29/07/10) 18-058 MR (07/09/10) 18-059 FR (14/09/10) 18-061 SL (16/06/10) 18-062 SL (17/09/10) 18-063 SL (07/06/10) 18-064 MR (22/07/10) 18-066 SL (16/09/10) 18-068 MR (29/07/10) 18-070 SL (15/09/10) 18-071 SL (27/08/10) 18-072 SL (15/09/10) 18-073 AN (22/08/10) 18-074 AN (07/09/10) 18-075 AN (07/06/10) 18-076 AN (10/08/10) 18-077 SD (26/07/10) 18-078 SL (27/07/10) 18-079 SD (10/08/10) 18-080 LE (27/07/10) 18-083 SD (07/07/10) 18-084 AN (17/09/10) 18-085 SD (27/07/10) 18-086 SD (23/05/10) 18-087 SD (09/09/10) 18-089 AN (15/09/10) 18-090 AN (06/05/10) 18-092 AN (30/03/10) 18-093 AN (05/11/09) 18-094 AN (16/11/09) Total: 249 (As of July 30th, 2010) Note: All garage allocations are taken from the STM Wiki, and are subject to change. 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Mystic Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 Uh, Mystic, 16-137 was rebuilt after an accident. It's still alive, and running with St. Laurent. It was never at Youville. Just thought I'd let you know . And Simon, I saw 16s 089 & 150 on Tuesday, so you may want to change the dates on your list . It was a long search just to find those few sightings, so I should probably just wait now for the official list to be released. There are so many pics I haven't sorted through you that they get outdated and aren't very good for statistical purposes any longer. 16-137 was rebuilt? Not at Youville? Pfft. I suppose they fixed this one up just like they're rebuilding those other 1st gens at the new Legendre garage. Can't figure why though if they plan on dumping them off to Novabus shortly. One thing I've noticed though, it's very rare now, I find, to see a 1st gen in Lasalle! It used to be the opposite before. I still see a lot of Classics, but most days now it's either a 27-5, 28 or 3rd gen 29 that's in service. Nothing much older and very rare a 1st gen. I see more Classics than 1st gens in Lasalle now! Anyways, here's a few sightings from the last few days (still in the camera): 16-100 - 430 on Rene-Levesque 16-168 - 430 at Centre-Bell 17-084 - 535 at Guy 17-088 - 535 on Rene-Levesque 17-161 - 535 at Guy 18-023 - 535 on Rene-Levesque 17-171 - 106 at Angrignon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Share Posted September 25, 2009 If you are planning on adding a section for retired 1st gens, here's a short list of ones that we saw at Youville last fall:16-015 16-026 16-055 16-085 16-137 16-140 17-001 (Fire) 17-019 (Fire) 17-098 (Fire) 17-122 (Fire) 17-153 18-008 About the retired first-gens, I did an updated list, that I posted in the thread "Retirement of STM 16, 17, 18-xxx". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellergraham Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 17-064 was my smartass home last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 17-064 was my smartass home last night Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Demers Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 16-088 was doing the 139 last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Classic 9401, I posted the full list of retired 16, 17 and 18 series buses in the 1st gen retirement thread. Every other bus that I did not list is active. So now you can update a full list of active 1st gens here based on what I listed retired as per an official STM roster as good as of yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Classic 9401, I posted the full list of retired 16, 17 and 18 series buses in the 1st gen retirement thread. Every other bus that I did not list is active. So now you can update a full list of active 1st gens here based on what I listed retired as per an official STM roster as good as of yesterday. Okay, since the roster is as good as of yesterday, i'll list the active buses as of September, 26th. It will now be easier to follow. The list is not complete yet, but I've done a part it. It's gonna be complete tomorrow since I don't have time to do it all tonight. Meanwhile, you guys keep reporting yours first-gens sightings, so I can update the various dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Demers Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 18-023 on 535 18-021 on 55 17-133 on 505 St. Laurent's 17-160 on 139 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristan Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Sept 28, 2009 16-027 on 185 at 15h39 at Sherbrooke and Radisson going east 16-045 as Chauffeur Eleve at 15h47 at Sherbrooke and Des Groseilliers going west 16-080 as Hors-Service at 15h48 at Sherbrooke and Des Groseilliers going west 16-148 on 44 at 15h47 at Metro Radisson 18-090 on 77 at 18h28 at Metro Radisson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks for the sightings --- So the list has been updated, as you can see, according to the Roster that Steve provided. Now you can post your first-gens sightings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. David Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 1st-Gen Watch 09 / 29 / 09 18-045 signed up as the 430 at the Elmhurst loop. Hey Steve, isn't this bus supposed to be dead? If so, we have ourselves a zombie bus . Got photo evidence too. 16-135 on the 105. 16-133 on the 162. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks, for the sightings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 1st-Gen Watch09 / 29 / 09 18-045 signed up as the 430 at the Elmhurst loop. Hey Steve, isn't this bus supposed to be dead? If so, we have ourselves a zombie bus . Got photo evidence too. I never listed it as retired in the roster list I posted 2 days ago. It's still active out of MR garage, but it was briefly at LA garage during the summer. I got pics of it on the 113 in July 2009. In July it was in the repair line behind LA garage, but never retired yet. Sorry, if I had mentioned it in the retired buses back in July. FYI, 17-027 which was one of the buses next to 18-045 back in July 09 in the repair line behind LA garage is still in the repair line same spot at LA garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. David Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 So 18-045 is still active, then. I remember this one having problems with its rear door a few years ago. I think it was originally a LA bus, but LA transferred it to MR. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 So 18-045 is still active, then. I remember this one having problems with its rear door a few years ago. I think it was originally a LA bus, but LA transferred it to MR. Good riddance. Back in July 2009, Lasalle only had 27 1st gens left! The lowest amount out of any other garage! WALALALA These were the units: 16-043 16-098 16-101 16-102 16-113 16-115 16-122 16-133 16-139 16-142 17-013 17-021 17-027 17-034 17-049 17-168 17-169 17-171 17-173 18-037 18-038 18-040 18-045 18-046 18-047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. David Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Back in July 2009, Lasalle only had 27 1st gens left! The lowest amount out of any other garage! WALALALAThese were the units: 16-043 16-098 16-101 16-102 16-113 16-115 16-122 16-133 16-139 16-142 17-013 17-021 17-027 17-034 17-049 17-168 17-169 17-171 17-173 18-037 18-038 18-040 18-045 18-046 18-047 Yay! That means MR & FR have the most of these things, I believe. From this list, you can strike off 17-027 & 16-102, since they've apparently been canned. Also, 16-135 appears to be a LA bus too. Saw it today on the 162. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Yay! That means MR & FR have the most of these things, I believe. From this list, you can strike off 17-027 & 16-102, since they've apparently been canned. Also, 16-135 appears to be a LA bus too. Saw it today on the 162. 17-027 as I mentioned it parked out back of LA garage in the repair line. As for 16-102, it's sitting retired in the front of the garage to the far right side with another 2 LFS's and 2 or 3 classics. Recent additions to the 1st gens now currently as LA garage are: 16-014 16-135 16-140 17-161 18-036 18-071 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 17-027 as I mentioned it parked out back of LA garage in the repair line. As for 16-102, it's sitting retired in the front of the garage to the far right side with another 2 LFS's and 2 or 3 classics.Recent additions to the 1st gens now currently as LA garage are: 16-014 16-135 16-140 17-161 18-036 18-071 Thanks for the clearing up things. What about #16-142 now? About #16-140 we all know that it's impossible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks for the clearing up things.What about #16-142 now? About #16-140 we all know that it's impossible... 16-142 is one of the LFS's retired out front of Lasalle garage, but it's still listed on the active roster. I'm pretty sure this bus will never see service again and is just waiting to be towed to Youville. The buses out front are guarenteed retired I was told, plus 16-142 is missing many parts already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic 9401 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 16-142 is one of the LFS's retired out front of Lasalle garage, but it's still listed on the active roster. I'm pretty sure this bus will never see service again and is just waiting to be towed to Youville. The buses out front are guarenteed retired I was told, plus 16-142 is missing many parts already. Thanks, for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. David Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Steve, I'm not sure how you get all of this insider info, but it's greatly appreciated! I think you should totally work for the STM in some capacity someday, should the opportunity ever arise ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I think you should totally work for the STM in some capacity someday, should the opportunity ever arise ! That's already in the works my friend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. David Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Awesome! Well, I hope that works out for you, regardless of what position you end up taking with them . -- 1st-Gen Watch 09 / 30 / 09 17-088 on the 161. 18-038 on the 103. 16-014 on the 162. I guess this one must really bus a LaSalle bus now. Last time I saw it, it was in Old Montreal, working route 14 ! 17-173 on the 105. This one has awesome smartassness potential . 17s 177 & 176 on the 51. 18-006 on the 15. 18-023 on the 165. I think I now hold the dubious honour of being the forum's best 1st-gen spotter. Um, yay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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