TDE Posted June 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Excellent. OK, next question, somewhat railroad related. I came across a wiki for a former airline company, Canadian Pacific Airlines. It had a similiar logo to CP Rail back in the day with the semi-circle and triangle. It doesn't list in wikipedia of any relation to CP Rail, but was there any affiliation at all? Or under some higher consortium umbrella for the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghYHZ Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I came across a wiki for a former airline company, Canadian Pacific Airlines. It had a similiar logo to CP Rail back in the day with the semi-circle and triangle. It doesn't list in wikipedia of any relation to CP Rail, but was there any affiliation at all? Or under some higher consortium umbrella for the two? Canadian Pacific was once known as the "Worlds Most Complete Transportation System".....Trains, Planes, Ships, Hotels, Transport, Express, and Telecommunications. You could cross Canada or reach five Continents on a Canadian Pacific Ticket. http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?showtopic=30169 Canadian Pacific Airlines was bought by Pacific Western to form Canadian Airlines which was then taken over by Air Canada. http://cpair.blogspot.com/2007/03/airline_8573.html CP also operated Trans-Pacific and Trans-Atlantic Ocean Liners……The famous White Empresses were in service until around 1970. http://iancoombe.tripod.com/id6.html And Canadian Pacific Hotels became Fairmont. A couple of the famous hotels included the Royal York in Toronto and the castle like Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City and Banff Springs in Alberta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 And Canadian Pacific Hotels became Fairmont. A couple of the famous hotels included the Royal York in Toronto and the castle like Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City and Banff Springs in Alberta. CP still owns Fairmont, although it is kept at arms-length from the parent company. As well, CP also owned a coal company, which it spun off into Fording Coal. They were later bought out by Teck Resources. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghYHZ Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 CP still owns Fairmont, although it is kept at arms-length from the parent company. Fairmont Hotels is now owned by Kingdom. A holding company controlled by a Saudi Prince.........and another piece of Canadian history has passed to a foreign company. When CP originally bought the Fairmont chain, they rebranded all their Hotels to the Fairmont name for better world-wide recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbdb Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 CP Limited spun off all the subsidiaries (Fording Coal, Pan Canadian Petroleum/EnCana, Fairmont, CP Ships and CP Rail) about 5 years ago. Prior to spinning them off, CP Limited owned about 90% of Pan Canadian which merged with Alberta Energy Company Ltd. to become EnCana). CP Limited owned the other subsidiaries in their entirety. Shareholders of CP Limited were given shares in each of the new companies and CP Limited ceased to exist. The rationale for the split was that the market value of the whole conglomerate grossly undervalued the parts which pretty much held true, the value of all the x-subsidiaries increased quickly after the spin off. Most doubled in value in a short time with no fundamental changes in their business operations. Because of it's diversity, the performance of CP Limited was a considered good indicator for the performance of the Canadian economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Anyone know why 4 EX CP RDC's would be pulled by an F unit from MBTA? http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...503&nseq=47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Anyone know why 4 EX CP RDC's would be pulled by an F unit from MBTA?http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...503&nseq=47 To transport people to their destinations? In all seriousness... I believe they had been de-engined and just basically used as coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. DeLarge Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Anyone know why 4 EX CP RDC's would be pulled by an F unit from MBTA?http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...503&nseq=47 MBTA acquired 4 ex-CPR RDC's in the 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 What are those bars for on the front windows? I'm assuming to protect against branches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. DeLarge Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 What are those bars for on the front windows? I'm assuming to protect against branches? Probably against rocks, bricks, etc...it's a rougher neighbourhood down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallspy Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 What are those bars for on the front windows? I'm assuming to protect against branches? Colloquially known as "ghetto grills". At one point in the early 1970s, some neanderthal strung a cinderblock on a rope from an underpass in the Boston area. It struck the trailing dome of one of their TurboTrains, and killed someone inside. Soon after, virtually all Amtrak units operating in the North East Corridor, and especially units based out of Boston, and all MBTA units had them outfitted. Their use directly resulted in the FRA's 49 CFR (Part 223) that mandated the particular "bullet-proof" safety glass now used in all mainline units in the U.S. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Here is something you dont see everyday! http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...740&nseq=69 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...741&nseq=68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageJoe Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Here is something you dont see everyday!http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...740&nseq=69 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...741&nseq=68 They had been power short lately due to failures of some units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDE Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 In terms and comparisons of cost, reliability, ease of use etc... how does the EMD SD50F and the GE C44-9W, Dash 9-44CW measure up? And to each other? I saw one photo of a CN EMD, and apparently he told the photographer as he banged on the side that it was a "shitbox" Here's that photo. ---> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...0663&nseq=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusRider Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Canadian Pacific was once known as the "Worlds Most Complete Transportation System".....Trains, Planes, Ships, Hotels, Transport, Express, and Telecommunications. You could cross Canada or reach five Continents on a Canadian Pacific Ticket. http://discuss.amtraktrains.com/index.php?showtopic=30169 Canadian Pacific Airlines was bought by Pacific Western to form Canadian Airlines which was then taken over by Air Canada. http://cpair.blogspot.com/2007/03/airline_8573.html CP also operated Trans-Pacific and Trans-Atlantic Ocean Liners……The famous White Empresses were in service until around 1970. http://iancoombe.tripod.com/id6.html And Canadian Pacific Hotels became Fairmont. A couple of the famous hotels included the Royal York in Toronto and the castle like Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City and Banff Springs in Alberta. Holy crap! I didn't know that! That's pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CN7066 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 I saw one photo of a CN EMD, and apparently he told the photographer as he banged on the side that it was a "shitbox"Here's that photo. ---> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...0663&nseq=1 Those SD50's were the worst, rolling pieces of garbage. I never had one that ran right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40LF Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 In terms and comparisons of cost, reliability, ease of use etc... how does the EMD SD50F and the GE C44-9W, Dash 9-44CW measure up? And to each other?I saw one photo of a CN EMD, and apparently he told the photographer as he banged on the side that it was a "shitbox" Here's that photo. ---> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?...0663&nseq=1 Interesting photo. Looks like there was nothing to stop a car from driving onto the tracks there back then. Notice the one overhanging onto the platform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersar Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Saw an interesting train going east from Calgary this afternoon. CP train, 2 locomotives at the start, 1 about a third back, 1 two thirds back and another at the end. All sounded like they were running, and it was quite a bit longer than most trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40LF Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Saw an interesting train going east from Calgary this afternoon. CP train, 2 locomotives at the start, 1 about a third back, 1 two thirds back and another at the end. All sounded like they were running, and it was quite a bit longer than most trains. Yep thats DPU. Finally got to see a CN one passing through Kingston, ON a week ago, although in this case a single Dash9 upfront and SD70M-2 8905 was in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersar Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 We get trains with locomotives in the middle or end all the time, just never this many. Rough estimate from my girlfriends dad who lives right near where we saw this particular train was 150+ cars, as it seemed to be going normal speed for a train through that area (just a couple miles east of the CP intermodal yard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D40LF Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 We get trains with locomotives in the middle or end all the time, just never this many. Rough estimate from my girlfriends dad who lives right near where we saw this particular train was 150+ cars, as it seemed to be going normal speed for a train through that area (just a couple miles east of the CP intermodal yard) Back in the 80s was on Amtrak heading west from Denver, some of the D&RGW consists were spectacular, with 3-4 engines upfront, 2-3 in the middle, and 3-4 on the rear. Of course they were running through the Rockies so needed the extra power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 The other day, while I took the GO train to Toronto, I saw one CN management RDC (or something like that). I have no idea what make and model of that RDC car is. Could it be a former RDC from another operator, re-purposed for rail maintenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlarocque2005 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 The other day, while I took the GO train to Toronto, I saw one CN management RDC (or something like that). I have no idea what make and model of that RDC car is. Could it be a former RDC from another operator, re-purposed for rail maintenance? that would be the car that was seen in Hamilton a few days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 When I was at Exhibition GO station - just west of the station platforms, I heard that there are installing some new LED signals (well European-style signals or something like that) to replace the incandescent signals. Any idea on what I'm talking about? Would it be feasible to have in-cab signaling on the GO trains - like the ones used in Europe (i.e. France)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainmaster_1 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 http://www.safetran.com/product/Signal/pdf...SIG%20C-1-1.pdf These are the ones your talking about, if you go look at the Kingston Sub between Cherry St and Guildwood, Halton Sub between Halwest and Norval and the Oakville Sub between Burlington West to Bayview they are littered with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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