AlexLy Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 Timmins has 3rd gens.? Any photos? And don't forget: Disney Transport will get new LFS this year.
dj.surf.lfs Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Posted September 11, 2009 Timmins has 3rd gens.? Any photos? And don't forget: Disney Transport will get new LFS this year. Photo: http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php?s=&showt...st&p=315509
Guest GRT Kid Posted September 11, 2009 Report Posted September 11, 2009 Grand River Transit has 13 for the iXpress.
translink Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 There's about 3-9 buses on order for West Van, and that's not slated for delivery till December. Bryan "goggles" Gal
G.A Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Since there is a thread about Orion VII NGs, I thought I'd start a thread about 3rd gen. Novas I am currently keeping track of all 3rd gen deliveries across Canada. So far: Currently being delivered: STM (Montreal) - (410 buses, approx. 50 buses already being delivered/in service) TransLink - (141 buses + options for 110 more) BC Transit - (115 buses) Strathcona County Transit ?? Peterborough Transit ?? Delivered/In service: STO (Gatineau) STS (Saguenay) Grand River Transit - (13, iXpress service) Timmins Transit - (2) Codiac Transit - (2, owned by City of Dieppe) Awaiting delivery: Lethbridge Transit Fredericton Transit Metrobus (St John's) Guelph Transit Belleville Transit Greater Sudbury Transit Niagara Transit - (4) Thunder Bay Transit - (3) Brantford Transit Regina Transit West Vancouver Municipal Transit - (3 to 8, delivery in Dec 2009) Disney Transport - (10) Please feel free to post any corrections, updates and sightings of any 3rd gen. deliveries. Also if anyone can provide the # of buses on order for each TA that would be greatly appreciated. I wasnt sure if Guelph was going to get any 3rd Gens They would be #ered 221-2xx.
Classic 9401 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Since there is a thread about Orion VII NGs, I thought I'd start a thread about 3rd gen. Novas I am currently keeping track of all 3rd gen deliveries across Canada. So far: Currently being delivered: STM (Montreal) - (410 buses, approx. 50 buses already being delivered/in service) TransLink - (141 buses + options for 110 more) BC Transit - (115 buses) Strathcona County Transit ?? Peterborough Transit ?? Delivered/In service: STO (Gatineau) STS (Saguenay) Grand River Transit - (13, iXpress service) Timmins Transit - (2) Codiac Transit - (2, owned by City of Dieppe) Awaiting delivery: Lethbridge Transit Fredericton Transit Metrobus (St John's) Guelph Transit Belleville Transit Greater Sudbury Transit Niagara Transit - (4) Thunder Bay Transit - (3) Brantford Transit Regina Transit West Vancouver Municipal Transit - (3 to 8, delivery in Dec 2009) Disney Transport - (10) Please feel free to post any corrections, updates and sightings of any 3rd gen. deliveries. Also if anyone can provide the # of buses on order for each TA that would be greatly appreciated. STS Saguenay received 4 Novabus LFS 3rd gens, #2901 to #2904. Can you add, on the "Awaiting delivery" list, that STL Levis will be receiving 13 Novabus LFS 3rd gen, in October-November, #0901 to #0913. The R.T.C. will be receiving 15 Novabus LFS 3rd gen, sometimes in October-November as well, #0922 to #0936.
M. Parsons Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Will this list include artics? If so, you can add Saskatoon with 3 units on order.
vivablue5215 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Grand River Transit has 13 for the iXpress. Yeah, except they're on routes OTHER than iXpress .
dj.surf.lfs Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Posted September 12, 2009 List updated!! (Now includes LFS Artic orders as well)
general682002 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Niagara is receiving in Oct.
M.Wright Posted September 12, 2009 Report Posted September 12, 2009 Delivered/In service: STO (Gatineau) STO has 15.
Andru Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Don't forget the 3rd generation NovaBUS demos who will probably wind up in various operators fleets. So far, I know of: 2007 LFS Artic #unknown (VIN 73000289 2007/09) last seen CUTA 2007/11, status unknown 2008 LFS Artic #40881 (VIN 83000011 2007/12) sold to MTA NYCT #0054 2008 LFS Artic #40882 (VIN 83000050 2008/?) last seen STM 2008/10, status unknown 2008 LFS HEV #unknown (VIN 83000151 2008/?) BC Transit demo, status unknown 2008 LFS #356-1 (VIN unknown 2008/03) last seen APTA 2008/10, status unknown 2008 LFS #356-2 (VIN unknown 2008/?) currently demo for TARC (Louisville KY) 2009/07 2008 LFX Artic #unknown (VIN 83000289 2008/06) currently demo SWT (Minneapolis MN) 2009/09 2009 LFS #358-1 (VIN 93000001 2008/?) last seen RTC 2008/11, status unknown 2009 LFS #432-1 (VIN unknown 2009/?) last seen OTE 2009/04 Plus, the first three buses built in Plattsburgh circa 2009/08 were slated to become LFS demos as well - status unknown!
D40LF Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 Don't forget the 3rd generation NovaBUS demos who will probably wind up in various operators fleets. So far, I know of:2007 LFS Artic #unknown (VIN 73000289 2007/09) last seen CUTA 2007/11, status unknown 2008 LFS Artic #40881 (VIN 83000011 2007/12) sold to MTA NYCT #0054 2008 LFS Artic #40882 (VIN 83000050 2008/?) last seen STM 2008/10, status unknown 2008 LFS HEV #unknown (VIN 83000151 2008/?) BC Transit demo, status unknown 2008 LFS #356-1 (VIN unknown 2008/03) last seen APTA 2008/10, status unknown 2008 LFS #356-2 (VIN unknown 2008/?) currently demo for TARC (Louisville KY) 2009/07 2008 LFX Artic #unknown (VIN 83000289 2008/06) currently demo SWT (Minneapolis MN) 2009/09 2009 LFS #358-1 (VIN 93000001 2008/?) last seen RTC 2008/11, status unknown 2009 LFS #432-1 (VIN unknown 2009/?) last seen OTE 2009/04 Plus, the first three buses built in Plattsburgh circa 2009/08 were slated to become LFS demos as well - status unknown! Given Belleville's purchase of former demos I wonder if some of these will end up there.
dj.surf.lfs Posted September 15, 2009 Author Report Posted September 15, 2009 2008 LFS #356-2 (VIN unknown 2008/?) currently demo for TARC (Louisville KY) 2009/07 Now that's an interesting info... Looks like more TAs in the US are considering buying Novas in the future! Here's more info: TARC to Host 2010 Emissions ProjectKCFC member TARC (Transit Authority of River City) has teamed with Cummins, Inc and Nova Bus to provide actual performance data of 2010 emissions compliant transit equipment in Louisville. The NOVA LFS unit is equipped with an ISL 280 hp engine that employs Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) technology. Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) consists of a Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) dosing system, a decomposition reactor, an SCR catalyst and electronic controls. As exhaust passes from the Cummins Particulate Filter into the SCR system, it is sprayed with a fine mist of DEF. This fluid works to transform NOx into harmless nitrogen gas and water vapor. There is a DEF tank and a dash lamp to indicate when the DEF fluid gets low provided by the OEM. The system is designed to work via the ECM with no driver interaction (other than monitoring the DEF fluid levels, much the same as monitoring fuel levels). The Electronic Control Module (ECM) will monitor the emissions output and signal for injection of the DEF fluid whenever necessary to keep the Nox levels at the appropriate levels. Although Cummins operates this system in longer range applications, stop and go transit data TARC can provide is needed. Cummins estimates a December 2009 data gathering completion.
dj.surf.lfs Posted September 25, 2009 Author Report Posted September 25, 2009 Updated the list today, Saint John Transit now has 2 Nova artics. (possibly ex-demo)
Andru Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 Updated the list today, Saint John Transit now has 2 Nova artics. (possibly ex-demo) Indeed, both appear to be ex-demos: http://cts11.century21.ca/rivervalleyrealt...pton_Quispamsis
dj.surf.lfs Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Posted September 28, 2009 updated list again... This time, 45 Nova Artics for Metro Transit (Halifax)!!
M. David Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 Not sure how many we have here in Montreal. It's got to be at least 50 so far, with more on the way. We have 29s 072 - 121 in service this far, minus 29s 087 & 098. Also, 29s 117 and up all have new specs, which include digital run boxes, full-length side displays, new seats, and PA systems. Has anyone else has spotted 3rd gens with these new specs running with other transit systems? Also, 29-804 was the first Nova Artic to enter service yesterday. It was running on route 69 Gouin all day.
vivablue5215 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 I rode a GRT 3rd gen yesterday, and I must say, I don't see what's so good about them. The engine on the 3rd gens, at least in the GRT ones, are MUCH louder than the 2nd gens (not sure about the *cringe* 1st gens, as I've avoided them for now). Not to mention, sitting at the back taking a video of the ride, I had to plug my ears for most of the video, as it was just too loud. Also, the rear door clicking noise (interlock?) is MUCH louder on the 3rd gens than the 2nd gens. While the 2nd gens sound like a simple click sound, the 3rd gens sound like a *BANG* sound when the bus accelerates (and comes to a stop). I found it okay at first, but as the ride progressed (I was on the bus for about 45 minutes), I got very annoyed. Overall, I'd stick to the 2nd gens anyday (except the 24xx). The only good thing I like about the 3rd gens, perhaps, are those InSight seats at the rear (I can't stand Aries seats as I have back problems).
Andru Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 Not sure how many we have here in Montreal. It's got to be at least 50 so far, with more on the way. We have 29s 072 - 121 in service this far, minus 29s 087 & 098. Also, 29s 117 and up all have new specs, which include digital run boxes, full-length side displays, new seats, and PA systems. Has anyone else has spotted 3rd gens with these new specs running with other transit systems?Also, 29-804 was the first Nova Artic to enter service yesterday. It was running on route 69 Gouin all day. According to STM figures, there could be as many as 231 40-footers delivered in 2009, of which 160 should be 3rd gen (29-072 to 29-231?). Plus the 58 artics of which 4 have been delivered already.
Classic 9401 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 Would it be possible to update the list, since the 3rd Gens 40 ft. Novabus L.F.S. from the R.T.C., #0922 to #0936 are currently being delivered. A few of them are now at Prevost Car in Saint-Nicolas.
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