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18 hours ago, Shaun said:

Could they transfer the 3 Colorado cars to the ocean and use the extra skylines on the Canadian? Wouldn't those be easier to make bi-directional?

The three Panorama Domes are usually used on the Skeena, which requires two trainsets. So there isn't exactly any spares available.

I haven't been inside a Panorama Dome car, so I can't confirm whether the seats reverse; if one assumes they are set up like the rest of the fleet, it means using them on the Ocean wouldn't solve any of the problems currently faced by using a Skyline.

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1 hour ago, lifty4ever said:

I believe that rumor was because original diagrams of the Ocean's consist did include a skyline car in it. It was omitted due to the then situation with covid. I feel they're definitely going to try modifying a couple at some point as the Renaissance cars will be retired sometime this decade, leaving only budd cars left and unless VIA is going to convert some of the reassigned corridor budds to suit other purposes, they'd have no choice but to use a skyline car so as to have a lounge space and a cafe. Im just not sure if they're going to do that any time soon because the ren lounges already fulfill this role only lacking the panorama dome.

The remaining Renaissance cars have had a lot of work done to them during the COVID layoff. They're going to be around for a while still.

 

Especially in light of the fact that there are not enough Budd cars to equip all of the Canadian, Skeena, northern Manitoba and Quebec, AND the Ocean.


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4 hours ago, smallspy said:

The remaining Renaissance cars have had a lot of work done to them during the COVID layoff. They're going to be around for a while still.

 

Especially in light of the fact that there are not enough Budd cars to equip all of the Canadian, Skeena, northern Manitoba and Quebec, AND the Ocean.


Dan

While that is true, they have already exceeded their life span and their condition wasn't helped by operating in weather conditions they weren't designed for. Though no official confirmation was made, all signs point to the Renaissance fleet (Corridor and Ocean sets) to be all retired by 2025-2026 and replaced by budds which there would be a lot more to use because budds currently assigned to the corridor would be reassigned to the long distance and regional services. It's just unknown if any of these cars would be converted to suit other needs or remain all coaches (which i find incredibly unlikely). VIA is in the process of putting out an order for long distance cars but who knows when that order will be A: Made and B: delivered. As i said, im sure we'll find out soon enough what their plan for the Skyline cars on the Ocean are when they answer questions during the annual public meeting later this month. Tbh im more interested in finding out what will happen to the corridor budds and what, if any conversions will be made to have them better suitable for long distance and regional trains. 

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23 minutes ago, lifty4ever said:

While that is true, they have already exceeded their life span and their condition wasn't helped by operating in weather conditions they weren't designed for. Though no official confirmation was made, all signs point to the Renaissance fleet (Corridor and Ocean sets) to be all retired by 2025-2026 and replaced by budds which there would be a lot more to use because budds currently assigned to the corridor would be reassigned to the long distance and regional services. It's just unknown if any of these cars would be converted to suit other needs or remain all coaches (which i find incredibly unlikely). VIA is in the process of putting out an order for long distance cars but who knows when that order will be A: Made and B: delivered. As i said, im sure we'll find out soon enough what their plan for the Skyline cars on the Ocean are when they answer questions during the annual public meeting later this month. Tbh im more interested in finding out what will happen to the corridor budds and what, if any conversions will be made to have them better suitable for long distance and regional trains. 

I believe the intention behind rebuilding the HEPII cars was to ensure that they can be used out side of the corridor once the new fleet arrives. But that's only 10 first class cars, plus 43 economy cars. It's better than nothing I guess. 

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13 hours ago, lifty4ever said:

While that is true, they have already exceeded their life span and their condition wasn't helped by operating in weather conditions they weren't designed for. Though no official confirmation was made, all signs point to the Renaissance fleet (Corridor and Ocean sets) to be all retired by 2025-2026 and replaced by budds which there would be a lot more to use because budds currently assigned to the corridor would be reassigned to the long distance and regional services. It's just unknown if any of these cars would be converted to suit other needs or remain all coaches (which i find incredibly unlikely). VIA is in the process of putting out an order for long distance cars but who knows when that order will be A: Made and B: delivered. As i said, im sure we'll find out soon enough what their plan for the Skyline cars on the Ocean are when they answer questions during the annual public meeting later this month. Tbh im more interested in finding out what will happen to the corridor budds and what, if any conversions will be made to have them better suitable for long distance and regional trains. 

The Budd coaches aren't the problem, and have never been the problem. The extra 17 ex-US cars made sure of that.

 

There aren't enough other cars to go around, however.

 

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For those unaware. There is a looming strike that will affect Via Rail Service ( including the Maple Leaf?) 
VIA Rail strike deadline extended

 

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MONTREAL, July 10, 2022 /CNW/ - A strike deadline for VIA Rail workers, set for July 11 at 12:01 a.m. has been extended to July 11 at 4:00 p.m. eastern.

"We remain hopeful that a deal can be reached," said Lana Payne, Unifor National Secretary-Treasurer. "Our bargaining committees have been steadfast in wanting to achieve a deal that respects and values their work."

 
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A strike deadline for July 11, 2022 was announced last Thursday, in an effort to give the public ample notice and an opportunity to make alternative arrangements for travel. Rail services will continue Monday.

Unifor represents more than 2,000 maintenance workers, on-board service personnel, chefs, sales agents and customer service staff at VIA Rail.

Unifor is Canada's largest union in the private sector, representing 315,000 workers in every major area of the economy. The union advocates for all working people and their rights, fights for equality and social justice in Canada and abroad, and strives to create progressive change for a better future.

SOURCE Unifor

 

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12 hours ago, Oc4526 said:

For those unaware. There is a looming strike that will affect Via Rail Service ( including the Maple Leaf?) 
VIA Rail strike deadline extended

 

 

I hope it doesn't last too long. Im traveling to Truro on the 10th of August. Im sure it'll be resolved well before then but i can't help but feel nervous. 

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The strike in 2009 lasted 2 days. The Canadian was cancelled at Winnipeg, leaving two trainsets parked at the station. Good to hear the deadline this time was extended. I thought that was the case as there were no trainsets parked at the station. The only sign that something was amiss was the fact that the Winnipeg Maintenance Centre had one of the Hudson Bay consists complete with Park Car. Usually there wouldn't be any trainset there on a Monday.

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On 7/11/2022 at 12:27 AM, Oc4526 said:

For those unaware. There is a looming strike that will affect Via Rail Service ( including the Maple Leaf?) 
VIA Rail strike deadline extended

 

 

 

15 hours ago, lifty4ever said:

I hope it doesn't last too long. Im traveling to Truro on the 10th of August. Im sure it'll be resolved well before then but i can't help but feel nervous. 

 

5 hours ago, Viafreak said:

The strike in 2009 lasted 2 days. The Canadian was cancelled at Winnipeg, leaving two trainsets parked at the station. Good to hear the deadline this time was extended. I thought that was the case as there were no trainsets parked at the station. The only sign that something was amiss was the fact that the Winnipeg Maintenance Centre had one of the Hudson Bay consists complete with Park Car. Usually there wouldn't be any trainset there on a Monday.

From Via Rails Facebook page. 

 

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STRIKE AVOIDED: VIA Rail reaches agreement in principle with Unifor We regret any uncertainties this situation may have caused to our passengers. Pending ratification, our trains will run as planned. More info at https://media.viarail.ca/fr/communiques/2022/greve-evitee-rail-conclut-ententes-principe

 

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On 8/3/2022 at 10:23 PM, Oc4526 said:

Trainset #2? Was spotted on a Virtual Railfan cam this morning.

 

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Trainset #2, with loco #3. It was delivered to the MMC early yesterday morning.

 

In other Siemens trainset news, trainset #1 will be undergoing a simulated one week cycle of service. It started on Thursday, and will run to this Wednesday. Times and locations can be found online.

 

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2 hours ago, smallspy said:

In other Siemens trainset news, trainset #1 will be undergoing a simulated one week cycle of service. It started on Thursday, and will run to this Wednesday. Times and locations can be found online.

 

Dan

For those who may be interested in catching it, Could you please post a link to this info. Thanks. (Nothing can be found on Via's website or social media channels) 

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8 hours ago, Oc4526 said:

For those who may be interested in catching it, Could you please post a link to this info. Thanks. (Nothing can be found on Via's website or social media channels) 

There are more complete times available on the various online groups that follow this kind of thing.

 

The times I have are Toronto-centric:

Tuesday August 9th, 2022

VIA 649 – Ottawa to Union (22.48)

 E649 – Union (22.48) to TMC (00.18)

 

Wednesday August 10th, 2022

VIA 677 – TMC West (11.20) to London (13.37)

 

Thursday August 11th, 2022

VIA 688 – London (6.54) to Union (10.38)

VIA 656 – Union (10.47) to MMC

 

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3 hours ago, Oc4526 said:

From my memory it’s only on the Fallowfield-Ottawa-Montréal-Quebéc train. (The numbers escape me at the moment) 

Prior to March 17, 2020, the Renaissance cars were deployed on the following trains:

Monday-Friday:

20MQ-37QMF & 24FMQ-29QM

Saturday: 

34OM-639MO

Sunday:

622MQ-637QMO & 624OMQ-29QM


The current Accessible schedules show “Baggage Check-In” for trains 20/622MQ and 29QM, which suggests a similar deployment…

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3 hours ago, Shaun said:

Why did they change the 600/604 schedule to overnight? Now you cant see the scenery because it travels in darkness. 

 

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/810629/

It’s most probably because of heat orders, which impose severe speed restrictions once temperatures exceed certain thresholds and which would make it impossible for the crew to reach their destination within their 12 hour limits…

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11 hours ago, Urban Sky said:

It’s most probably because of heat orders, which impose severe speed restrictions once temperatures exceed certain thresholds and which would make it impossible for the crew to reach their destination within their 12 hour limits…

So in the winter it will return to its normal schedule?

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On 9/5/2022 at 12:48 PM, Urban Sky said:

Prior to March 17, 2020, the Renaissance cars were deployed on the following trains:

Monday-Friday:

20MQ-37QMF & 24FMQ-29QM

Saturday: 

34OM-639MO

Sunday:

622MQ-637QMO & 624OMQ-29QM


The current Accessible schedules show “Baggage Check-In” for trains 20/622MQ and 29QM, which suggests a similar deployment…

Does anyone have the updated schedule? I will be In Quebec in a few weeks and want to take the opportunity to ride one on my way back to Toronto.

 

I have been hearing they are slowly pulling them off the corridor and there’s only one that operates with ren coaches from Quebec to Montreal. 

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