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Apparently Via has a train stranded up there now, too? If that is the case that's an awkward position. Wonder what the solution will be - barge out of Churchill maybe?

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On 2017-06-09 at 0:04 PM, benz.citaro.fan said:

I know they weren't in service but if the train is longer than the typical consist you know at least some are deadheading. Heck, I have even seen some VIA trains with 3 consists deadheading to the yard.

That doesn't mean anything. I've caught 14 car long corridor sets where not one piece of equipment was deadheading. There have been plenty of instances with cars that are normally used on the Canadian - diners, skylines, Park cars - where they have been in service rather than deadheading. The length of the train has very little bearing on how much of it is in service.

 

On 2017-06-11 at 0:10 AM, eclair14 said:

Also remember that Renaissance cars needs absolutely two cars to operate in passenger service, they need either a luggage car / transition car AND a service car .

If they deadhead, they still need either the luggage or transition car since knukle are not the same as the rest of the VIA fleet

 

Not a baggage or transition, but just a baggage car. The transition car is configured differently, and can't be used in quite the same way.

 

But yes, to make an operable trainset, they need at the very least a baggage car and a service car. Because this equipment was just to be used for training and not revenue service there was no requirement to include the service car.

 

23 hours ago, skyfirenet said:

The coupler adapter can be attached to any ren car. It's just that VIA has doubts over the crash worthiness of the cars when in service which is why they have the baggage or transition car.

 

There is a 10 or 15mph restriction on using the emergency adaptor coupler. For obvious reasons, they can't use it on a revenue trainset.

 

And for the record, it's not that VIA Rail has "....doubts over the crash worthiness..." - they don't. They feel that the cars are more than safe enough as it is. It is Transport Canada who has concerns, although they've also had most of those concerns allayed by VIA.

 

Dan

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On 12/06/2017 at 3:23 AM, Dane said:

Apparently Via has a train stranded up there now, too? If that is the case that's an awkward position. Wonder what the solution will be - barge out of Churchill maybe?

2 locomotives and some coaches, according to Global. Apparently barging is not off the table but I think VIA want to be sure the line can't/won't be fixed before they risk that. That said, I've been saying for years VIA should be operating a train from North Bay to Toronto and if they barge the stranded stock over to Moosonee we might see it happen :lol:

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On 6/12/2017 at 3:23 AM, Dane said:

Apparently Via has a train stranded up there now, too? If that is the case that's an awkward position. Wonder what the solution will be - barge out of Churchill maybe?

I am sure they would rather risk waiting to the rail line is reopened or they would truck it out during the winter road season.

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4 hours ago, dowlingm said:

That said, I've been saying for years VIA should be operating a train from North Bay to Toronto and if they barge the stranded stock over to Moosonee we might see it happen :lol:

But probably only one-way: Moosonee-Cochrane-North Bay-TMC! 

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Any idea how they're doing with the LRC rebuilds? Is that still ongoing?

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via 6432 screams by with a set of lrc cars just east of oshawa

 

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This was posted by Transport Action today:

 

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Omnitrax won't fix the line to Churchill 
Calls the railway a public utility
Winnipeg Free Press: Omnitrax estimates it will cost between $20 million and $60 million to repair the line and can be done in 60 days. But Omnitrax senior executive Peter Touesnard said "Because we have determined the rail line lacks commercial viability and now (faced) with millions of dollars of damage... we can't justify the resources necessary to repair the line," he said at a lengthy press conference this morning.
Full story: 
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/…/omnitrax-wont-fix-rail-l…
Winnipeg Free Press
Posted: 07/18/2017 1:10 PM

See also
CBC News, ”It [the rail line] is not commercially viable, so we believe it's a public utility," said Peter Touesnard, chief commercial officer for Omnitrax.
http://www.cbc.ca/…/manitoba-churchill-omnitrax-rail-1.4210…
CBC News, Updated: Jul 18, 2017 1:19 PM CT

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/…/omnitrax-wont-fix-rail-l…

 

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16 hours ago, Allandale25 said:

This was posted by Transport Action today:

 

 

Time for the Feds/Province to buy the line

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On 10/07/2017 at 5:46 PM, KMB_BUS said:

via 6432 screams by with a set of lrc cars just east of oshawa

 

Would it have been so expensive to wrap all of the old blue and yellow cars with the Canada 150 stuff so that there were only two livery types in a consist, not three?

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Hey everyone,

Now before I start, I know that Via has not released many details about the whole High Frequency Rail thing, however, I was wondering if anyone knew about any plans about double tracking the Beachburg Sub through Ottawa. You would think they would have to if they are planning on having 2 trains per hour along the line, but I'm just not sure if they would go cheap and not double track it or not.

-Charlie

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/new-via-rail-plan-would-increase-train-frequency-through-barrhaven

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17 hours ago, TTC T6H-5307N 2252 said:

And rebuilding the CP Havelock Sub back into live service I guess?

The problem i see with this idea is that it misses all of the populated cities on the southern route.  Unless they plan to have a southern and northern route. 

The Southern route could still serve existing stations and the northern route would be the faster route used for more direct service to Montreal through Ottawa?

The EA for service to Peterborough is already been completed by Metrolinx so that portion is already done. 

I would have thought the CP Belleville Sub would have been a better candidate.

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4 hours ago, Shaun said:

The problem i see with this idea is that it misses all of the populated cities on the southern route.  Unless they plan to have a southern and northern route. 

The Southern route could still serve existing stations and the northern route would be the faster route used for more direct service to Montreal through Ottawa?

The EA for service to Peterborough is already been completed by Metrolinx so that portion is already done. 

I would have thought the CP Belleville Sub would have been a better candidate.

Chances are, they will have trains that will go north(ish) to Peterborough and Tweed and Sharbot Lake and along Lake Ontario to all the towns along there as if you look in the article tombuspage posted, the map shows the VIA owned track down to brockville. The benefit to the north(ish) line is that it will be Via that owns it, so freight trains would not have to be given priority. It would only really make sense for people to use that line if they are going to one of the new stations or direct from Toronto to Ottawa and Montreal or vice versa  (it looks like).

-Charlie 

http://www.intelligencer.ca/2017/07/20/tweed-among-stops-on-proposed-via-line

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Here is a question,  I always wondered before VIA Rail, how was passenger service divided between CN and CP? I do know that CP operated the commuter service in Montreal. But did CN have the majority if the East Coast and CP had the west coast? CN I assume had the Windsor-Quebec City corridor, hence the VIA/CN program. There was never a CP/Via program. Odd question, a railway enthusiest like me should know but I never really thought about it until now, and I know I can get the best answers here.  

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