2822 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Articulated said: LINX route 4 already runs 7 days a week... I wonder if it could justify every 30 minutes during the summer months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmissions1 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 17 hours ago, 2822 said: I wonder if it could justify every 30 minutes during the summer months? I have been out along the Route 4 and it definitely attracts a lot of volume. Especially when people travel between this corridor and how Collingwood has a lot of residential development planned and under development. I know one friend who has a home during the summer in that area. Though I think they should be running a 40 ft bus versus 30 ft. Considering the hourly frequency can be challenging if a passenger cannot be accommodated. The demand is there. It is more of how much of a cost the county is willing to accommodate operating an additional bus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 14, 2021 Report Share Posted April 14, 2021 Bus 712 has apparently been sold to Wasaga Beach Transit and numbered 59. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 After reading a few articles recently about the transit service be coming on demand and talking with a few of the drivers. Apparently the town only owns 6 buses but they do have 7 on the roster. Did they retire 708 or do they not count it on their roster as it is only used for the Blue Mountain route. One driver did mention that 708 is owned by Blue Mountain and operated by Collingwood. I did not dismiss that thought. I have only seen it in active service a few times before 2021. I did see it sitting in the section where sidelined buses park before auction. Bus 701 was sitting at Public Works as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 It would make more sense to extend GO transit to Wasaga Beach and Collingwood with 30min frequency. This way there is a larger pool of equipment and reasources. Plus the GO equipment is better suited for suburban routes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Shaun said: It would make more sense to extend GO transit to Wasaga Beach and Collingwood with 30min frequency. This way there is a larger pool of equipment and reasources. Plus the GO equipment is better suited for suburban routes. I had been advocating for the same reason (for over a decade). I heard that the Simcoe County LINX bus offers bus service from Wasaga Beach to Collingwood - but it also runs on weekends. There's also another Simcoe County LINX bus route that runs from Wasaga Beach to Barrie - only problem is, it runs on the weekdays with no weekend/holiday service. That's one gap (and barrier) on getting to/from Blue Mountain for a weekend getaway. I actually found this video about two travellers who embarked a journey on getting to Blue Mountain (in Collingwood) by using public transit: Another thought: if Blue Mountain were to win a bid (one day) on hosting a winter sports event (like the X-Games or the Dew Tour), it would require a significant amount of investment on shuttling not only the athletes and representatives, but crowds as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTC Guy Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 I spend a good deal of time in the Blue Mountain-Collingwood area throughout the winter, as my family has a place there so I ski almost every weekend. I have strongly considered try to use public transit to get there, with exception of the debilitating LINX route 2 schedule. Another interesting service to check out if you're interested is Grey County Route (GTR) to see their route network. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 hours ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said: I had been advocating for the same reason (for over a decade). I heard that the Simcoe County LINX bus offers bus service from Wasaga Beach to Collingwood - but it also runs on weekends. There's also another Simcoe County LINX bus route that runs from Wasaga Beach to Barrie - only problem is, it runs on the weekdays with no weekend/holiday service. That's one gap (and barrier) on getting to/from Blue Mountain for a weekend getaway. I actually found this video about two travellers who embarked a journey on getting to Blue Mountain (in Collingwood) by using public transit: Another thought: if Blue Mountain were to win a bid (one day) on hosting a winter sports event (like the X-Games or the Dew Tour), it would require a significant amount of investment on shuttling not only the athletes and representatives, but crowds as well! The track bed from Barrie is still there and there are places where you can add a passing tracks. The easiest thing to do right now would be to extend GO to Owen sound along 26. Why didn't Hammond or someone else take over the Greyhound route? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulated Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Shaun said: The track bed from Barrie is still there and there are places where you can add a passing tracks. The easiest thing to do right now would be to extend GO to Owen sound along 26. Why didn't Hammond or someone else take over the Greyhound route? Because no other company decided to operate there, is the simple answer. There are also provincially-subsidized local routes already along the corridor - LINX between Barrie/Wasaga Beach/Collingwood, and GTR between Collingwood/Blue Mountain/Meaford/Owen Sound. A private company wouldn't want to compete with another service, and especially not one which can operate at a lower fare (or lower break-even point) due to the subsidies. Greyhound was only operating one trip per direction per day - that tells me it wasn't a super profitable service they had. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureHeartsJunkie Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Articulated said: Because no other company decided to operate there, is the simple answer. There are also provincially-subsidized local routes already along the corridor - LINX between Barrie/Wasaga Beach/Collingwood, and GTR between Collingwood/Blue Mountain/Meaford/Owen Sound. A private company wouldn't want to compete with another service, and especially not one which can operate at a lower fare (or lower break-even point) due to the subsidies. Greyhound was only operating one trip per direction per day - that tells me it wasn't a super profitable service they had. Ontario Northland would have been a proper candidate to run the Collingwood-Barrie-Toronto run (with more frequent service of course!). If the Simcoe County Linx Route 2 only operates during the weekdays, then people who wanted to go on a weekend would (sadly) catch a taxi/uber to Wasaga Beach - just to connect with Simcoe County Linx route 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said: Ontario Northland would have been a proper candidate to run the Collingwood-Barrie-Toronto run (with more frequent service of course!). If the Simcoe County Linx Route 2 only operates during the weekdays, then people who wanted to go on a weekend would (sadly) catch a taxi/uber to Wasaga Beach - just to connect with Simcoe County Linx route 4. 20 hours ago, FutureHeartsJunkie said: I had been advocating for the same reason (for over a decade). I heard that the Simcoe County LINX bus offers bus service from Wasaga Beach to Collingwood - but it also runs on weekends. There's also another Simcoe County LINX bus route that runs from Wasaga Beach to Barrie - only problem is, it runs on the weekdays with no weekend/holiday service. That's one gap (and barrier) on getting to/from Blue Mountain for a weekend getaway. I actually found this video about two travellers who embarked a journey on getting to Blue Mountain (in Collingwood) by using public transit: Another thought: if Blue Mountain were to win a bid (one day) on hosting a winter sports event (like the X-Games or the Dew Tour), it would require a significant amount of investment on shuttling not only the athletes and representatives, but crowds as well! Do they think that people don't need to travel on weekend's? But for the bus to run on weekends you would need more equipment since you would need more spare equipment to cycle. Not to mention funding would be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiExpress Posted March 11, 2022 Report Share Posted March 11, 2022 FIN2022-001P - Operation and Maintenance of Conventional & Specialized Transit Services in the Town of Collingwood, the Town of Wasaga Beach & the Township of Clearview This procurement is a joint procurement between Collingwood, Wasaga Beach and Clearview to obtain proposals for contracted operation of conventional and specialized transit services for an initial 5 year term beginning August 1, 2022. While the procurement is being conducted jointly by the above municipalities, it does not necessarily mean that one contractor will provide service for all three contracts, nor are the transit systems amalgamating. Each municipality's transit services are to be priced separately as outlined below. with the tender split into three contracts A, B, and C. Award will be made to either one company across all three contracts or split between a maximum of two different operators - as an example scenario, 'Company 1' could be awarded the contract for Collingwood operations while 'Company 2' could be awarded the contract for Wasaga Beach and Clearview. For conventional transit service, Collingwood will transition to a fully on demand service model with the start of this new contract. Wasaga Beach will continue to offer fixed route service at the start of the contract with the possibility of transitioning to a hybrid or fully on demand service model during the contract. Clearview's transit service will remain as is. In all three cases the existing transit fleets of the municipalities will be used. Specialized service will be introduced in Clearview and Wasaga Beach (transitioning from Red Cross) with new Dodge Promaster vans being purchased for use on specialized service. PART A - Collingwood Operations Conventional - 18,000 annual hours with fully on demand system. Service to operate Monday to Sunday using existing town buses. Specialized - 5,700 annual hours. Service to operate Monday to Sunday 7am-9pm using existing buses. PART B - Wasaga Beach Operations Conventional - 10,200 annual hours with existing fixed route system. Possibility of transition to hybrid or full on demand system during five year contract. Service to operate Monday to Sunday 7am-9pm using existing buses. Specialized - 5,100 annual hours. Service to operate Monday to Sunday 7am-9pm with new vehicles being procured. PART C - Clearview Operations Conventional - 4,900 annual hours with existing fixed route system. Service to operate Monday to Friday 6:30am-8:30pm and Saturdays 8:30am to 5:30pm using existing buses. Specialized - 5,100 annual hours. Service to operate Monday to Friday 6:30am-8:30pm and Saturdays 8:30am to 5:30pm using existing buses. There is a provisional PART D allowing for pricing for the possibility of combining specialized service across all three municipalities rather than having them as three separate contract operations, however this is just optional pricing. It applies to specialized service only, and not the conventional transit service which will be separate operations. Currently the tender is scheduled to close on April 14 with contracts to be finalized and awarded in early to mid May for the August 1, 2022 startup. FIN2022-01P Transit Services_final.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 How will people use the on demand if they don't have a phone? Can they call dispatch and order a bus to their location? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 7715 is a Blue Bird Microbird on a Ford E-450 chassis and 7716 is a 2017? Ram ProMaster. 7716 was previously used for specialized transit provided by Red Cross, unsure of the cutaway. They have been acquired as I will guess was a three way purchase by the 3 transit systems but numbered in the Collingwood numbering. It is unknown if they acquired a any other buses for the service. TransitPLUS was launched in December of 2022. More can be read here. https://www.collingwoodtoday.ca/local-news/new-accessible-transit-rolling-into-collingwood-mid-december-5998265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmissions1 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Collingwood On-Demand Transit starts June 10th starting with Phase 1 which is weekend service. There are three different phases: Phase One: Weekends (current phase) Phase Two: Weekday evenings and weekends (based on the first three months of phase one) Phase Three: Full phase in for all service periods Only the three local routes will be for on-demand transit. Blue Mountain Link will still run in the existing form. Final comments: I won't deny the negative feedback that has been shared on the Town of Collingwood's Facebook page regarding on-demand transit. Requiring a mobile device or phoning in for agent assistance on pre-booking trips. Needing a minimum of at least 30 minutes in-advance to submit a booking versus following a fixed schedule operating hourly frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said: I won't deny the negative feedback that has been shared on the Town of Collingwood's Facebook page regarding on-demand transit. Requiring a mobile device or phoning in for agent assistance on pre-booking trips. Needing a minimum of at least 30 minutes in-advance to submit a booking versus following a fixed schedule operating hourly frequency. I don't see it lasting very long. There is a lot of push back from this. Most of systems that previously did On Demand are starting to revert back to fixed service. As someone who used On demand in a number of cities. Full On Demand does not work. A hybrid system works much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdgta2008 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said: Collingwood On-Demand Transit starts June 10th starting with Phase 1 which is weekend service. There are three different phases: Phase One: Weekends (current phase) Phase Two: Weekday evenings and weekends (based on the first three months of phase one) Phase Three: Full phase in for all service periods Only the three local routes will be for on-demand transit. Blue Mountain Link will still run in the existing form. Final comments: I won't deny the negative feedback that has been shared on the Town of Collingwood's Facebook page regarding on-demand transit. Requiring a mobile device or phoning in for agent assistance on pre-booking trips. Needing a minimum of at least 30 minutes in-advance to submit a booking versus following a fixed schedule operating hourly frequency. I agree, a hybrid system would work better in Collingwood, especially on evenings and weekends. The whole system, however, needs a re-haul. People are screaming to later evening service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdgta2008 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 The Crosstown Route has been cut for weekend service and replaced with the OnDemand model: https://www.collingwood.ca/council-government/news-notices/demand-transit-update-crosstown-route-moving-fully-demand-weekends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 11:49 AM, sdgta2008 said: The Crosstown Route has been cut for weekend service and replaced with the OnDemand model: https://www.collingwood.ca/council-government/news-notices/demand-transit-update-crosstown-route-moving-fully-demand-weekends Is that beneficial? Or cost cutting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdgta2008 Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Shaun said: Is that beneficial? Or cost cutting? It could be both... It's part of the gradual move to go fully OnDemand on weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 5 hours ago, sdgta2008 said: It could be both... It's part of the gradual move to go fully OnDemand on weekends. Why don't they do that for he LINX bus that doesn't run on weekends? It makes Collingwood and Wasaga beach an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Shaun said: Is that beneficial? Or cost cutting? It was cost cutting the public did not want it. When they went to a hybrid system to run both fixed and On Demand nobody used on demand so they forced it on to the public. 25 minutes ago, Shaun said: Why don't they do that for he LINX bus that doesn't run on weekends? It makes Collingwood and Wasaga beach an island. LINX won't run On Demand. They are looking at running full weekend service in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdgta2008 Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 4:46 PM, G.A said: It was cost cutting the public did not want it. When they went to a hybrid system to run both fixed and On Demand nobody used on demand so they forced it on to the public. LINX won't run On Demand. They are looking at running full weekend service in the future. Exactly. People are screaming for LINX weekend service on routes 1, 2, 3, and 6 from what I’ve heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAmissions1 Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 hours ago, sdgta2008 said: Exactly. People are screaming for LINX weekend service on routes 1, 2, 3, and 6 from what I’ve heard. That is correct. Especially since some people would like to travel to Orillia, Wasaga Beach, Midland or Alliston on the weekends. Plus travel isn't always fixed on weekdays. Linx should also expand evening service especially since it ends pretty early at around 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM depending on route on weekdays. Which can be challenging if planning a trip to Toronto, the first afternoon trip making all stops to Barrie from Union is 1:53 PM arriving at Allandale at around 3:37 PM. After that, only 3:53 PM and 4:38 PM would connect with the Linx bus from Bradford and Allandale Go. Though the 4:38 PM departure would be cutting it very close if it is a short train or delayed trying to catch Route 2 to Wasaga Beach. Which can either make the connection or waiting 11 hours until the next departure on a weekday. Weekend, it is even worse which would be another few days or even longer if it is a long weekend like Family Day, Good Friday or Victoria Day as examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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