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On 9/13/2018 at 1:56 PM, martin607 said:

Thanks. I remember those Flyer trolleybuses when they were relatively new during visits way back when. No electronics, just traditional resistor control. Boy were they fast (but jerky). I remember kids on the bus praising the fast "take off".

And who doesn't love a PCC car?

IKR! The PCCs are amazing. The E800s haul major ass. I could not believe how fast they are.

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I plan on coming down next year for the 2019 heritage weekend... I'm just curious as to far far in advance details start coming up so I can book trains/flights down & have accommodation in the Bay Area over that weekend arranged.

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On 9/15/2018 at 5:09 PM, UpLift Vancouver said:

I plan on coming down next year for the 2019 heritage weekend... I'm just curious as to far far in advance details start coming up so I can book trains/flights down & have accommodation in the Bay Area over that weekend arranged.

Ya man! 2019 might be a better year. This year was not very good because we didn’t have all the buses out which made it a little boring. Overall, it was fun.

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On 10/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, UpDownAcross38 said:

Here are three Neoplan AN460s sitting at Islais Creek.

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Is this one sold to lacmta 

This photo goes to Kevin Lo. 

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On 10/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, UpDownAcross38 said:

Here are three Neoplan AN460s sitting at Islais Creek.

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Are these lacmta specs 

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2 hours ago, martin607 said:

@UpDownAcross38 Which routes are the new XT40 trolleybuses mostly on? I've heard about the 6 because of a detour, but otherwise are the new arrivals going to particular routes or are they spread out, with a few XT40s on each route?

I personally have no idea, but in due time the Xcelsiors will fully replace the high-floor fleet in accordance with ADA. That is unquestionably true.

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14 hours ago, martin607 said:

@UpDownAcross38 Which routes are the new XT40 trolleybuses mostly on? I've heard about the 6 because of a detour, but otherwise are the new arrivals going to particular routes or are they spread out, with a few XT40s on each route?

41 Union,, 2/3 has a couple. And they run on a variety of routes.

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Shots of 5577. Unfortunately, there are an abundance of these retiring. It's crazy to see how many there were last year. Now, there going as fast as TTC Orion VII OGs with the Series 50s!   

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13 hours ago, UpDownAcross38 said:

Shots of 5577. Unfortunately, there are an abundance of these retiring. It's crazy to see how many there were last year. Now, there going as fast as TTC Orion VII OGs with the Series 50s!   

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Sad to see them go. How many are left in service? Do they still form the majority of buses on the 40 ft. trolleybus routes like the 1, 3, 24 etc?

Interesting facts: The motors are very powerful - 275 kW for a 40ft bus is quite a lot. The motors on the XT40s are slightly less powerful: 250kW.

Even more interesting is that the ETI/Skoda motors are DC motors. Back around 2000 when new trolleybuses elsewhere were getting AC induction motors. SF Muni deliberately decided to have traditional DC motors. I believe they felt that DC traction motors have the highest torque when starting (compared to the AC motor), which would be good for very hilly routes like the 1 or 24.

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On 11/29/2018 at 6:27 AM, martin607 said:

Sad to see them go. How many are left in service? Do they still form the majority of buses on the 40 ft. trolleybus routes like the 1, 3, 24 etc?

Interesting facts: The motors are very powerful - 275 kW for a 40ft bus is quite a lot. The motors on the XT40s are slightly less powerful: 250kW.

Even more interesting is that the ETI/Skoda motors are DC motors. Back around 2000 when new trolleybuses elsewhere were getting AC induction motors. SF Muni deliberately decided to have traditional DC motors. I believe they felt that DC traction motors have the highest torque when starting (compared to the AC motor), which would be good for very hilly routes like the 1 or 24.

 

 

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Crappy shot of 5562 retired at Presidio. According to a friend of mine, it got into a minor collision on the 45. At this point, they're just getting rid of them due to the XT40s coming in crazy fast... IMG_6821.thumb.jpg.3252beddbe70bd2800732c18403719c6.jpg

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I rode 8353 today on the 38AX! There were a lot of reserve fleets getting some fresh air due to the T line.

Cummins ISM
Allison B500R

Division: Islais Creek

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5573 on the 1

Kiepe/Skoda

Division: Presidio

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On ‎11‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 7:58 PM, UpDownAcross38 said:

Shots of 5577. Unfortunately, there are an abundance of these retiring. It's crazy to see how many there were last year. Now, there going as fast as TTC Orion VII OGs with the Series 50s!   

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Or MTA NYC bus Orion VII OG CNGs in general....

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