stm_5307N Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I can't remember which system had the GM Hybrid Orion V for testing. I think it was Los Angeles... No it wasn't the LACMTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 No it wasn't the LACMTA. I'm almost certain it was Foothill Transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted September 23, 2006 Root Admin Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 I'm almost certain it was Foothill Transit. Thats it... my bad. Thanks Adrian. I rememebr seeing shots of it, but for some reason, though it was LA..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Boston has 2 1999 Orion VIs in storage, they had Lockheed Hybrid Drive systems. they also have 2 2001 Nova LFS shells that were tobe built into Magnetic Induction Battery Buses pending a decision on completing the project. All of the Hybrid VI are stored because of parts availability. Torrance Transit in California do have 2 Orion VI Hybrid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted September 23, 2006 Root Admin Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Boston has 2 1999 Orion VIs in storage, they had Lockheed Hybrid Drive systems. Yeah, that was the old technology. The 3 door hybrid demo uses Lockheed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2044 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Thats it... my bad. Thanks Adrian. I rememebr seeing shots of it, but for some reason, though it was LA..... No problem. Foothill Transit does serve parts of LA, so it's pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 MUNI AN440LF CNG 9211 I have pictures of those from BWI Airport (Baltimore-Washington). About VIs, are those triple door hybrid demo(s) in Mississauga? If not then what is the white VI with the old Orion logo on the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 25, 2006 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 No, Mississauga only has diesel 2 door VIs as far as I know. The 3 door one was a demo, not sure where it is now. Torrance Transit has a hybrid VI, but it might only have 2 doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 No, Mississauga only has diesel 2 door VIs as far as I know. The 3 door one was a demo, not sure where it is now. Torrance Transit has a hybrid VI, but it might only have 2 doors. No one in any other transit system who has Orion VI have 3 door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 The 3 door one was a demo, not sure where it is now. This 3 door demo... How many were there? Or was it just one? I assume that the pic we have on Barp is a diesel... was this one later converted to a hybrid, or was it a different bus altogether? http://www.barp.ca/bus/ontario/oc-transpo/demo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm_5307N Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 This 3 door demo... How many were there? Here's the pic of it. Sorry, its low quality though: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Here's the pic of it. Sorry, its low quality though: OK... I think it's safe to say they are different buses! Thanks for posting that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Admin A. Wong Posted September 25, 2006 Board Admin Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I dug up these pics too. Not sure if they are the same bus or what though. (The purple is probably the same as the one Martin posted.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted September 25, 2006 Root Admin Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 No, Mississauga only has diesel 2 door VIs as far as I know. The 3 door one was a demo, not sure where it is now. Torrance Transit has a hybrid VI, but it might only have 2 doors. Orion (Mississauga) only has one diesel demo now. The other was sold to St. John. The 3 door hybrid demo, is a 1997, and is numbered #6001. Its still at the Mississauga plant, parked at the back. The first Orion VII prototype is also back there, along with some older demo buses... The Orion VII hybrid demo #1043 with the original Orion VII design WAS at the back about a month ago. I did see it roaming around Mississauga just recently, so I dont know where it is now, because I didn't see it today at Orion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VIII Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 No, Mississauga only has diesel 2 door VIs as far as I know. The 3 door one was a demo, not sure where it is now. Torrance Transit has a hybrid VI, but it might only have 2 doors. I know our VIs are 2 door, right at the back, I was asking if the VIs at Orion in Mississauga are the demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYANBRT Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I cannot believe you people are talking about Orion 6s. I thought you all hated those buses. Muni has one of the most diverse systems in term of mode. Buse, Trolleybus, Light Rail, Streetcar(F-line), AND Cable Car!! Muni is where I rode my first electric trolleybus, and where I fell in love with trolleys. I have seen trolleys in Toronto, obviously but never had a chance to ride one. Really cool buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I cannot believe you people are talking about Orion 6s. I thought you all hated those buses. Muni has one of the most diverse systems in term of mode. Buse, Trolleybus, Light Rail, Streetcar(F-line), AND Cable Car!! Muni is where I rode my first electric trolleybus, and where I fell in love with trolleys. I have seen trolleys in Toronto, obviously but never had a chance to ride one. Really cool buses. I think many of us don't mind the Orion VI, especially later versions. There's just a few members who just REALLY hate Orion VI's. Trolleys... yep best things around Still get to ride them in Edmonton for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimminsMike Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Oh lol so that explains these VIs with middle doors... I thought hamilton had the rear door versons? In Timmins we have mid body back doors and ours are diesel. I haven't heard of too many systems with mid body door Orion VIs that are diesel either. We are one of the few that do have diesels. I'll attach some images once I get home from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 In Timmins we have mid body back doors and ours are diesel. I haven't heard of too many systems with mid body door Orion VIs that are diesel either. We are one of the few that do have diesels. I'll attach some images once I get home from work. The reason Timmins ordered mid-rear door on the VI is because of high snow banks and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlo86 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 The reason Timmins ordered mid-rear door on the VI is because of high snow banks and safety. And other cities in Ontario don't have high snow banks? I don't see how that is a valid reason. A snow bank would get in the way regardless of mid or rear door. Also what exactly are these saftey issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Timmins is WAY up north and gets way more snow then any other place in Ontario with crappy 6's. Thank you. The same goes for Thunder Bay for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlo86 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Okay fair enough, I was not aware of the geography/climate. However, I still do not understand what snow banks have anything to do with door position. Nor do I understand what door position has to do with saftey in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimminsMike Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Okay fair enough, I was not aware of the geography/climate. However, I still do not understand what snow banks have anything to do with door position. Nor do I understand what door position has to do with saftey in this case. I admit our snow banks can get high, but they are not any higher than anywhere else. In fact places in the snow belt (Barrie, Orillia, etc...) get much more snow than we do. It's like any other option that you can get on a bus. Timmins just opted out to get the mid-body back door. I am unaware of any specific reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general682002 Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 I admit our snow banks can get high, but they are not any higher than anywhere else. In fact places in the snow belt (Barrie, Orillia, etc...) get much more snow than we do. It's like any other option that you can get on a bus. Timmins just opted out to get the mid-body back door. I am unaware of any specific reason. The reason because once you've packed into a snow bank and it sits for few days with cold weather and sunny just to partial melt the snow, this would become very harden. And yes, it does the damage onto vehicles and one of the Oakville Orion VI had the rear door pushed in. Otherwise, another thing is it would have to be safety issues for drivers to see much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlo86 Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 The reason because once you've packed into a snow bank and it sits for few days with cold weather and sunny just to partial melt the snow, this would become very harden. And yes, it does the damage onto vehicles and one of the Oakville Orion VI had the rear door pushed in. Otherwise, another thing is it would have to be safety issues for drivers to see much easier. You don't seem to understand what I am saying. I realize buses hitting snow banks can cause damage to the bus. Thats not what I am questioning here. I am questioning the validity of the claim that a rear door position will be more prone to damage/saftey hazards. That is what you were saying in the first place, is it not? Also I'm not sure what exactly there is to see better as you claim. Point is, regardless of where the door is, the driver still has to pay attention as to not run into any snowbanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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