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On 11/14/2021 at 4:45 PM, MiExpress said:

Sault Ste Marie will be getting 3 Nova LFS next year using the Metrolinx Transit Procurement Initiative. Due to the fact that pricing came in higher than budgeted, the procurement of one parabus will be deferred.

https://saultstemarie.ca/Cityweb/media/City-Clerk/Council-Agendas/2021/2021_10_25_Agenda.pdf?ext=.pdf (pages 96 and 97)

Update on the 2022 bus orders for Sault Ste Marie:

  • 3 Nova LFS: $592,307 + HST (as mentioned above)
  • 1 New Flyer XD35: $573,640 + HST
  • 2 ARBOC Freedom (parabus): $172,790 + HST
  • 1 ARBOC Freedom (community bus): $182,444 + HST

https://saultstemarie.ca/Cityweb/media/City-Clerk/Council-Agendas/2022/2022_02_22_Agenda.pdf?ext=.pdf (pages 65-69)

 

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On 2/18/2022 at 5:18 PM, MiExpress said:

Update on the 2022 bus orders for Sault Ste Marie:

  • 3 Nova LFS: $592,307 + HST (as mentioned above)
  • 1 New Flyer XD35: $573,640 + HST
  • 2 ARBOC Freedom (parabus): $172,790 + HST
  • 1 ARBOC Freedom (community bus): $182,444 + HST

https://saultstemarie.ca/Cityweb/media/City-Clerk/Council-Agendas/2022/2022_02_22_Agenda.pdf?ext=.pdf (pages 65-69)

 

Will the Novas/XD35 replace the ex TTC Orions?

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On 3/2/2022 at 10:12 PM, Tom1122 said:

Will the Novas/XD35 replace the ex TTC Orions?

I believe they want rid 131-132 and 159-164 since they did rid all ex-OC Transpo (141-153) gone, I don't see any 141-153 ex-OC Transpo anymore, all ex-OC Transpo buses already gone but I noticed 131 or 158 been not run around since month or 2 months, I am not sure but I see 132, 159 and 160 still running then I thinking they are on work to get rid 131-132 and 158-164 quick like 8 bus since 131, 132, 161, 162 and 163 (5 fleet) like 18 years old, 131-132 or 161-163 is 2004 but 158-160 (ex-Thunder Bay Transit) was like 2006, been 16 years, I know they want keep 133-140 for 5-10 years because 133-134 is 2010, 135-139 is 2011, 140 is 2013, 156 is 2016, 165-166 is 2019 then 167-176 is 2021 whatever answer is yes, we will see ex-TTC gone soon like 1-2 years from now, ex-TTC won't be alone, we already know that ex-OC Transpo already gone but we will know that 131-132, ex-Thunder Bay (158-160) and ex-TTC (161-164) will be gone in 2023-2025 around for sure so we will know that 133-140, 156 and 165-176, 177-178 (Mini Bus) and add new 179-182 on ordered, what fantasy! I forgot to say about 164, 164 is worthless to this Transit company since they not happy with this 164 because of high cost of maintenance, blah blah blah because one of my friend work at bus garage, they really want 164 to go soon since 164 been parking in garage like almost 2 years like a ghost abandoned bus!!!!! my last time saw 164 running in street was June 2019

If anyone care about new livery paint bus? I have update for anyone to know about new livery paint, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171 and 172 already paint new livery, 173 with Arby's livery and 175 with GFL livery, 174 or 176 still white bus non-paint but 177-178 mini bus already have new livery paint long time ago, we have 8 bus with new livery and we have 3 mini bus with new livery 

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176 New Flyer XD40 did add new paint "21 Century" then 174 should be already paint but what is it? I'll find out if is new livery or what? since all 4 XD35 (167-170) already new livery paint but 2 XD40 (171-172) already new livery paint then 173, 175 and 176 just use business ad just like 156 did with EXIT paint, same idea 173 with Arby's, 175 with GFL and 176 with 21 Century, one left is 174 and if anyone know what 174 got new paint? or still non-paint running around?

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1 hour ago, Sooguy2022 said:

176 New Flyer XD40 did add new paint "21 Century" then 174 should be already paint but what is it? I'll find out if is new livery or what? since all 4 XD35 (167-170) already new livery paint but 2 XD40 (171-172) already new livery paint then 173, 175 and 176 just use business ad just like 156 did with EXIT paint, same idea 173 with Arby's, 175 with GFL and 176 with 21 Century, one left is 174 and if anyone know what 174 got new paint? or still non-paint running around?

Not paint they are decals. It seems the buses are being wrapped up for advertising.

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2 hours ago, G.A said:

Not paint they are decals. It seems the buses are being wrapped up for advertising.

It’s a wrap or decals. Only thing that gets painted these days is the base colour. It’s all in what the company(that’s on the ad) wants to spend. A wrap is way more expensive than just a ad sign. 

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2 hours ago, PHATMATT51 said:

It’s a wrap or decals. Only thing that gets painted these days is the base colour. It’s all in what the company(that’s on the ad) wants to spend. A wrap is way more expensive than just a ad sign. 

Then they want 173-176 to be as sign just like 156 did? then 174 still unavailable because I did saw 174 running like 2 days ago and it's was non-paint, still unknown and I know 174 is last bus left with non-paint

Today, my first time to see 176 with new paint is 21 Century (ad sign) but soon I'll take a picture of all 167-176 (each fleet) 

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On 4/7/2022 at 5:24 AM, Sooguy2022 said:

I believe they want rid 131-132 and 159-164 since they did rid all ex-OC Transpo (141-153) gone, I don't see any 141-153 ex-OC Transpo anymore, all ex-OC Transpo buses already gone but I noticed 131 or 158 been not run around since month or 2 months, I am not sure but I see 132, 159 and 160 still running then I thinking they are on work to get rid 131-132 and 158-164 quick like 8 bus since 131, 132, 161, 162 and 163 (5 fleet) like 18 years old, 131-132 or 161-163 is 2004 but 158-160 (ex-Thunder Bay Transit) was like 2006, been 16 years, I know they want keep 133-140 for 5-10 years because 133-134 is 2010, 135-139 is 2011, 140 is 2013, 156 is 2016, 165-166 is 2019 then 167-176 is 2021 whatever answer is yes, we will see ex-TTC gone soon like 1-2 years from now, ex-TTC won't be alone, we already know that ex-OC Transpo already gone but we will know that 131-132, ex-Thunder Bay (158-160) and ex-TTC (161-164) will be gone in 2023-2025 around for sure so we will know that 133-140, 156 and 165-176, 177-178 (Mini Bus) and add new 179-182 on ordered, what fantasy! I forgot to say about 164, 164 is worthless to this Transit company since they not happy with this 164 because of high cost of maintenance, blah blah blah because one of my friend work at bus garage, they really want 164 to go soon since 164 been parking in garage like almost 2 years like a ghost abandoned bus!!!!! my last time saw 164 running in street was June 2019

If anyone care about new livery paint bus? I have update for anyone to know about new livery paint, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171 and 172 already paint new livery, 173 with Arby's livery and 175 with GFL livery, 174 or 176 still white bus non-paint but 177-178 mini bus already have new livery paint long time ago, we have 8 bus with new livery and we have 3 mini bus with new livery 

They’re really not in a position to complain about 164, it was practically donated to them for scrap value- as a body part donor for their other NG units.
 

The fact that it actually turned a wheel is simply a surprising bonus.

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22 minutes ago, DiltonPlayz said:

So 153 is retired?! There goes the last Orion VIs in Canada..

They were retired last year. Cornwall is the last one how to operate the VI in Canada unless they are retired.

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I just got news today when I was downtown that one of our Novabus LFS Diesel Units that we ordered has arrived equipped with a REAR DISPLAY Marking it as our First Bus To Be Equipped With a Functional Rear Display

2 minutes ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

I just got news today when I was downtown that one of our Novabus LFS Diesel Units that we ordered has arrived equipped with a REAR DISPLAY Marking it as our First Bus To Be Equipped With a Functional Rear Display

my guess the Novabus LFS  179-181 The XD35 Will be numbered 182 And the Community bus Numbered 183.

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On 4/25/2022 at 2:35 PM, SaultTransitBuses said:

I just got news today when I was downtown that one of our Novabus LFS Diesel Units that we ordered has arrived equipped with a REAR DISPLAY Marking it as our First Bus To Be Equipped With a Functional Rear Display

my guess the Novabus LFS  179-181 The XD35 Will be numbered 182 And the Community bus Numbered 183.

DSC02858.thumb.JPG.75bbb6e255f939e55ea551cb872c5f53.JPGDSC02859.thumb.JPG.3cf33107eff7330dabce8291f525c3e3.JPGJust spotted 180 On Route 7 Tonight. this marks our first bus with rear displays and our first nova buses with the Curtesy exterior lights

On 4/10/2022 at 4:27 PM, Bus_Medic said:

They’re really not in a position to complain about 164, it was practically donated to them for scrap value- as a body part donor for their other NG units.
 

The fact that it actually turned a wheel is simply a surprising bonus.

They have been mostly retired and i think will be finished off with this novabus order that we just Received 

The LFS's are also very similar to MiWay Spec LFS's

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On 4/10/2022 at 4:27 PM, Bus_Medic said:

They’re really not in a position to complain about 164, it was practically donated to them for scrap value- as a body part donor for their other NG units.
 

The fact that it actually turned a wheel is simply a surprising bonus.

Only about money issue, I know 164 still in garage and maybe this summer, will be gone who know since I saw new 179-181 2022 Nova LFS now, I saw them running now, garage will get full, 164 will be gone for sure

On 4/9/2022 at 3:14 PM, G.A said:

Not paint they are decals. It seems the buses are being wrapped up for advertising.

For 156 (EXIT), 173 (Arby's), 175 (GFL) and 176 (21st Century) ...of course they are wrapped but rest new livery of 3rd SSM Transit Service is real paint whatever 174 is new SSM Transit Livery then 9 Big Buses already with real new Livery of 3rd SSM Transit Service and 3 Mini Buses already with real new Livery of 3rd SSM Transit Service because I been in Sault Ste Marie since 1990, I do remember I saw bus was first livery Blue/Red then 2nd livery was green/white then Now new livery is white/red/orange/blue/green, that why I called 3rd Livery whatever thank you for let me know about business AD was wrapped and oh yeah I should know that 👍

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On 4/25/2022 at 2:35 PM, SaultTransitBuses said:

I just got news today when I was downtown that one of our Novabus LFS Diesel Units that we ordered has arrived equipped with a REAR DISPLAY Marking it as our First Bus To Be Equipped With a Functional Rear Display

my guess the Novabus LFS  179-181 The XD35 Will be numbered 182 And the Community bus Numbered 183.

sound like 160-164 will be gone? you did correct about 179-181 and 182 but I didn't know about 183 then they gonna to have 3 mini buses like 177-178 and now 183? my first time to see "3rd Mini bus" wow

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7 hours ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

I do believe that 164 Will Probably Retire within this year to make room for the XD35 We ordered Probably.

I still think Sault Transit  should apply for Green Intitive funding

164 really abandoned mean this number really retired, 164 will never on the road ever again because my friend work at garage

 

132 is official to retired, I think 159 & 160 probably or already retired because 158 already retired, I think when 182 & 183 arrive and look like 161-163 will go too because they want keep 133-140 for few years, I say 2 years (2024-2025) from now 133-134 will replace 184-185 then 2027-2028, 135-140 will be replace to 186-190 or 186-191 but 156 won't replace until after 2030

 

My friend told me that 167-176, 179-181 and 182 was replace for 131, 132, 141-153 (not all, it's was only 6 fleet left in 141-153 fleet) and 158-164 like they did ruined 15 fleet to new 14 fleet, that all what I know

 

 

7 hours ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

I do believe that 164 Will Probably Retire within this year to make room for the XD35 We ordered Probably.

I still think Sault Transit  should apply for Green Intitive funding

to make room in garage? you really very funny because I already seen it, this garage can capacity is 48 buses, we have like 28 fleet is large buses and 15 fleet is mini buses so there like 14 empty spot for large buses but why would they put few trucks in garage? what is joke! trucks is not transit bus, lol

 

 

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7 hours ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

I do believe that 164 Will Probably Retire within this year to make room for the XD35 We ordered Probably.

I still think Sault Transit  should apply for Green Intitive funding

They did building garage to make 48 capacity buses because Sault Ste Marie population was reached 86,000 in 1988, Transit thought they have a dream become more route, more buses but after 1990's to 2010's, population was collapsed to 75,000 population but I am honest with you, garage really biggest for only 28 large buses and 15 mini buses, you can see there have more rooms, only city did put few trucks in this garage like cheat lol

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Okay, let's put some of this rumour-mill and misinformation going on in this thread to rest...

The 2022 Street Side Guide (which was based on an official roster from SSM) lists 131, 157-158, 164, and the remainder of the ex-OC Orion VIs as retired, likely all replaced by the 10 Xcelsior buses received in 2021. Cutaways 154-155 were also replaced by 177-178.

At this point, it'll only be speculation as to what gets retired from the buses due to arrive this year. I would suspect that 131 and the remaining TBay Orion VIIs (159-160) are first up. While the TTC units weren't repainted, I think they're likely in better shape than the others, and will last longer as a result.

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image.thumb.jpeg.d99a10ea9548aed07f8e23d41b72966f.jpegImage Caught 179 In Service On Route 3 Outbound and 181 On Transee yesterday. Marking the end of our 2022 Novabus LFS Diesel Order.

11 minutes ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

image.thumb.jpeg.d99a10ea9548aed07f8e23d41b72966f.jpegImage Caught 179 In Service On Route 3 Outbound and 181 On Transee yesterday. Marking the end of our 2022 Novabus LFS Diesel Order.

I also think these have voith transmissions because of all of the LFS's ive rode on these do not sound like our typical B400R

11 minutes ago, SaultTransitBuses said:

image.thumb.jpeg.d99a10ea9548aed07f8e23d41b72966f.jpegImage Caught 179 In Service On Route 3 Outbound and 181 On Transee yesterday. Marking the end of our 2022 Novabus LFS Diesel Order.

I also think these have voith transmissions because of all of the LFS's ive rode on these do not sound like our typical B400R

But I could be wrong. 

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On 4/13/2022 at 1:48 PM, G.A said:

They were retired last year. Cornwall is the last one how to operate the VI in Canada unless they are retired.

I rode 153 on a private tour just for me. Got to record it, back in July of 2021. I loved it! Got to see the new XD35s and the XD40s when they still were getting set up too.. honestly, their garage is pretty small, but... it IS a small town. I even saw the NG Hybrid sitting there in the repair bay. Suprising how when IT turned a wheel, it just gave out completely. I mean, the NG Hybrid WAS in bad condition...

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