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On 6/22/2019 at 11:33 AM, Orion VI said:

Is the wiki going to be updated?

Give it some time, (most) wiki editors have lives outside of the wiki

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On 8/10/2018 at 11:49 PM, 2822 said:

Is 119 and 120 still active? 

119 and 120 really still active but they in storage garage for awhile but I saw this cptdb wiki said 119 & 120 and 157 retired? I saw 157 still service yesterday because I live in Sault Ste. Marie but TTC sold 4 buses so 161 and 162 around running but 163 and 164 did not arrive Sault Ste. Marie from Toronto, I think 163 did arrived in garage but not running around yet, I am not sure what they do with 163 and 164, I think they might paint new livery so 161 and 162 still TTC livery, who know but I will find out in few days and I'll look over garage again to make sure 163 & 164 will run service or what? so my answer is 119 & 120 really still in storage garage yesterday.

On 6/22/2019 at 1:33 PM, Orion VI said:

Is the wiki going to be updated?

did it but I was busy and took long to updated so I did finished updated it.

On 7/1/2019 at 4:29 PM, leylandvictory2 said:

better yet become a wiki editor and update it yourself.

I did it, I been wiki editor on Sault Transit Service since Jan 17 2015, if you see history list, you can see SSM 2015, 50.70.0.94, SOO78, SSMTS, 70.76.229.79 but anyone become wiki editor? not easy to deal with it, like you can't put phone number or you can't put email? that why wikipedia have too many rules like wikipedia is not yellow page book so today is finished updated so anyone can put picture (not copy from anyone's picture like copyrights) like I said wikipedia have too much of rules but respect it and I did finished up but I will trying to keep updated every month with buses fleet issue.

On 7/12/2019 at 11:22 PM, Articulated said:

The photo in that article indicates the fleet numbers are 165 and 166. New livery as well - looks like it matches the new city logo.

Sighing, I live in Sault Ste. Marie, more than 60% Sault Ste Marie civilization ... they not happy with new logo and they want back to old logo, less than 40% is ... YOUNG GENERATION AND PEOPLE WHO NOT BORN IN THIS CITY, THEY WANT IT, THEY DON'T WANT OUR OLD LOGO. I don't mean to caps lock but I want to tell you how much everyone turn against each other, old people who not want change it but young people or new people who want change it, welcome to messed up world now.

I think new logo look stupid but I like new livery buses (165 and 166) because language not only English, now English, French and Ojibwe because I think Ojibwe language bring to our city would be awesome because this is our history! my daughter is half native and I am respect it because I love my ex or my daughter, no matter what! 

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Who say that fleet# 121 was paratransit? all my life in Sault Ste. Marie since 1990 and I know fleet# 121 is orion V, I always remember when Sault Ste. Marie Transit did bought new 11 bus with new 2nd paint livery because 1st livery was red & blue, 2nd livery was green & blue and 3rd livery new 2019 mostly white with few blue, green, orange and red so I do remember when I saw 1997 to 1999, fleet# 110 to 121 was orion V, 121 can't be paratransit! who said it? I can't believe that someone make wrong information on this cptdb wiki, I know 121 (original) was 1999 orion V then something happened accident or motor break down, they can't afford to fix it and they have to rid it to change (2nd) small bus just like paratransit but 121 (original) or (2nd) never service for paratransit, they was service for normal schedule route, I try to say 121 (2nd) just like 154 & 155 small buses so 154 & 155 don't service for paratransit so I ask to anyone to fix it please? I know fleet# 39 to 109 was 1st livery then 110 to 140 and 156 to 160 was 2nd livery then 165-166 was 3rd livery so 141 to 153 and 161-164 was not livery because they can't afford a paint cost! oh well, life going on anyway fleet# 121 is NOT paratransit and it's 1998 Orion V (original) or minibus (2nd or I called 121B) but I noticed fleet# 113 is missing? I saw 113 exist in my life but 113 already retired. 113 was 1997 orion V.

I will try get information from office on august 30

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I have a new update ... 2 days ago night time I did went to garage and saw 146 .... RETIRED! 146 is OFFICIAL RETIRED!

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4 hours ago, SSMTS said:

I have a new update ... 2 days ago night time I did went to garage and saw 146 .... RETIRED! 146 is OFFICIAL RETIRED!

Was the fare box, radio and plates removed? Interesting with the fleet shortage they would retire more vehicles. Especially 146 after being fixed up with parts from Guelph Transit 149 a few years back.

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Was the fare box, radio and plates removed? Interesting with the fleet shortage they would retire more vehicles. Especially 146 after being fixed up with parts from Guelph Transit 149 a few years back.

I wouldn't be surprised if its done. It broke down on the charter and we had to get a change off.

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19 hours ago, TTC 9701 said:

Was the fare box, radio and plates removed? Interesting with the fleet shortage they would retire more vehicles. Especially 146 after being fixed up with parts from Guelph Transit 149 a few years back.

146 was fixed in 5 years ago, 5 years is deserved it and 146 have to go because I saw 146 beside with 144, 150 and 151 outside field where is not paved, just dirty with grass field parking (I called them dumped), when I was there like around 3am and I was shocked when I saw it, now I know 146 is out of service for good since Aug 30

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16 hours ago, MCI Classic said:

I wouldn't be surprised if its done. It broke down on the charter and we had to get a change off.

146 is 20 years old, city told transit many times that city want to see every bus under 6 years old but mostly bus is over 10 years old, transit trying to throw many old bus to go and get new bus, not easy to deal with it since federal funds million dollars to transit like two times in 2 years? how is going? why 157 been not run? I saw 157 in garage and still there but why not run? because something damage or breakdown, they can afford to fix it? no, 157 been in garage like more than 6 months and they feel like waste time, waste money so what happened to 163 and 164? they been in garage too, only I know 163 is EX-TTC 7939 and 164 is Ex-TTC 1684 so I believed that 146 plate could be 163 but I prefer to see it again soon to see evidence if 146 plate will go to 163 plate? or what? just removed and 163 have a new plate? I really not pay attention much time and I was work janitor and I can't have free time but shocked to see 146 parking back outside with 144, 150 and 151

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I did updated on wikipedia and I did put 28 buses and 2 minibuses on wikipedia but real life, there like 32 buses and 2 minibuses in garage property,  there is only 26 buses or 25 buses and 2 minibuses on service, 2 buses or 3 buses (if 163 don't run service) in garage and can't service (like suspended) and 4 buses (retired for scrapped) in dump field because I was there and counted it.

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Does anyone know the number of the Ex. TTC Orion VII NG HEV that was sent up with 161-163?

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I want to tell everyone to know ... 163 (Ex-TTC  7939) is on service now because 163 did run today on service! but few hours from now, I will take a picture that 163 on service but I will take a picture 146 in yard of garage property in few days later

Remind to CPTDB ... I am not joke ... 146 really RETIRED!

On 9/13/2019 at 4:52 PM, Matthew TTC 4120 said:

Ex TTC 1684

Ex-1684 is 164 but still in garage and not run service yet but I think this 164 will be service very soon

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how can someone edit ... bus fleet ... 146 RETIRED and 163 on ACTIVE? I mean on https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Sault_Ste._Marie_Transit

everything is ok with all fleet but ... annoying is ... 146 still ACTIVE? ACTUALLY RETIRED! and 163 is ACTIVE! plus

Add 164 ... (ex TTC-1684) but 164 is not part of 161-163 because 161-163 is Orion 07.501 buses built in 2006 and 164 is Orion 07.501 NG HEV bus built in 2008 but still not active yet  ... that all ... who will edit it?

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1 hour ago, SSMTS said:

how can someone edit ... bus fleet ... 146 RETIRED and 163 on ACTIVE? I mean on https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/Sault_Ste._Marie_Transit

everything is ok with all fleet but ... annoying is ... 146 still ACTIVE? ACTUALLY RETIRED! and 163 is ACTIVE! plus

Add 164 ... (ex TTC-1684) but 164 is not part of 161-163 because 161-163 is Orion 07.501 buses built in 2006 and 164 is Orion 07.501 NG HEV bus built in 2008 but still not active yet  ... that all ... who will edit it?

Someone who has the time to do all of that. (Some) Members on this board of have lives outside of CPTDB, and don’t have the time to edit the wiki every single day.

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On 9/3/2019 at 4:31 AM, SSMTS said:

146 is 20 years old, city told transit many times that city want to see every bus under 6 years old but mostly bus is over 10 years old, transit trying to throw many old bus to go and get new bus, not easy to deal with it since federal funds million dollars to transit like two times in 2 years? how is going? why 157 been not run? I saw 157 in garage and still there but why not run? because something damage or breakdown, they can afford to fix it? no, 157 been in garage like more than 6 months and they feel like waste time, waste money so what happened to 163 and 164? they been in garage too, only I know 163 is EX-TTC 7939 and 164 is Ex-TTC 1684 so I believed that 146 plate could be 163 but I prefer to see it again soon to see evidence if 146 plate will go to 163 plate? or what? just removed and 163 have a new plate? I really not pay attention much time and I was work janitor and I can't have free time but shocked to see 146 parking back outside with 144, 150 and 151

has that 157 ever been in service?  Or never at all?  Is it still in Thunder Bay scheme or repainted to SSM color already?  Thank you

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23 hours ago, Cimon8000 said:

has that 157 ever been in service?  Or never at all?  Is it still in Thunder Bay scheme or repainted to SSM color already?  Thank you

157 did service from 2018 till around february 2019 something went wrong like breakdown, someone said "retired" so I asking Sault Ste. Marie Transit office if this 157 bus gonna to retired? they said no and they was trying to get something to fix it but ... they been abandoned 157 in garage for more than 7 months because motor is very damaged and they knew it that they got 157 from thunder bay and they did repainted to SSMT color and now motor is break down, I asking them again like last week ago ... one question is .. 157 really retired ... they was like not agreed with it because they said  157 still garage breakdown, waste our money and we bought 4 buses from thunder bay and they was hoping that 4 buses can service up to more than 5 years but 157 is only service for more than 1 year is wasted money, wasted money from federal funds and where money back? nothing

they did made a good point to me like more explain as clear because I am deaf with American Sign Language, I can't speak perfect english grammar but they did trying to explaining to me more clear ... I was like "I feel sorry for them" because in 1980's .. they was good business and have profit, nothing loss but 1990's ... they want paint second livery for ALL buses because they have all money from profit and they can get new buses 1997/1998 Orion 06.501 then they loss 113 and 121, 113 not service long, like few year and got big damaged, they want fix it but same cost to get new 122 and 123 and get used 124 to 130 but not just 122, 123 and 124-130 because they realized that 121 was in big trouble just like 113 so they have to throw 113 and 121 to go (both really new buses but waste cost) then they replace 121 (I called them 121B) like renumber ... new mini bus but 121B do not service for paratransit because I do remember ... 121A ... I always ride many times on Eastside or McNabb, every time I see "113" or "121" in my good memory as strong but I remember 113 and 121 gone so quick then I saw another 121 but small bus? mini bus? but 121 go service for community. I know 121 NEVER service for Paratransit because I asked Sault Ste. Marie Transit office 3 times same question and they said NO! 121A or 121B does not service for Paratransit

Now you wondering why ... they can't paint 141 to 153 and 161 to 164 ... because they are bankruptcy already ... I don't get it why they throw 146 on dirty land dump land with 144, 150 and 151 but why 157 still inside garage building? I just not get it why? but I know it's damaged and they can't fix it. now you wondering why they can't afford to repaint 141-153 or 161-164 so I asking them ... do they will repaint new 3rd livery for all buses and they was like laughing and "where funds? where money? who pay it?" then I was like wow and I knew it .... SSM Transit is 100000000% banakruptcy! but they survival and keep running around because City pay it but passenger? collapse number. North route .... one service with only 3 passenger? WASTE GAS! I hope you understand why SSM Transit have a BIG PROBLEM lately but I hopefully federal give another funds for SSM Transit because SSM Transit need a funds so badly! they need money for SSM Transit better future.

yesterday I did counted it again because my friend let me in garage again and I did counted it and I was like "wow" because I did look every buses number ... on service is 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 147, 149, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 165 and 166, suspended and hold on is 157 and 164 and dump land is 144, 146, 150 and 151.

119, 120, 145 and 152 already gone for good! scrapped it.

plus ... we might not see any new buses or re-paint for 3rd livery for 131 to 164? ... maybe NEVER till 2021 or 2022, what I think ... they seem not happy with business issue.

I know only is ... Monday to Friday ... 30 mins every service ... 17 buses on service and 13 buses inside garage included 157 and 164 but hour service would be only 9 buses on service and 21 buses inside garage included 157 and 164, I was try to say they have more time for repaint but they didn't because no money and they can't afford to fix 157, I called "breakdown" and I think 157 will go scrapped because every time I ask or talk about 157, they was like not happy to answer because it's wasted money, mean Thunder Bay Transit knew it that 157 bus was very bad motor or something very bad but they not tell and just SOLD to stupid dumb SSM Transit make SSM Transit look stupid? like I said I feel sorry for them but I can't do anything because I am not owner but City own it and City should know better, Transit should know better and I told them if ... they want get buses for 167 to future???? I suggest them to get NEW buses, not used buses like they did mistake with 157 as learned in lesson. Now why 164 not service? I heard they have something more problem. City want to see SSM Transit get 8 used buses ... but they did got 8 buses yes yes yes yes yes but only 6 buses on service and 2 buses still in garage and take so long!

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I don't recall there ever being a 113. The roster and Vehicle Identification Numbers so that 113 infact 114 and they had skipped 113 for some obvious superstition reason.

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