G.A Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 19 hours ago, Wonka said: I can't imagine how they're fitting all these expansion buses into the already overcrowded mountain garage. Like most places probably making space outside or there are plans to expand the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT Invero Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 do they not normally run the novas on sundays? last few times in hamilton on a sunday i saw all flyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 15 hours ago, BT Invero said: do they not normally run the novas on sundays? last few times in hamilton on a sunday i saw all flyers They should be out, pretty sure I saw a few last Sunday. The Flyers will still kinda dominate the fleet until the next 30 Nova's arrive later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. DeLarge Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hamilton flashback: delivery of some brand new HSR Flyer E800's from the 7800-series via CN flatcar: http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=24953 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generator Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 7 hours ago, D. DeLarge said: Hamilton flashback: delivery of some brand new HSR Flyer E800's from the 7800-series via CN flatcar: http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=24953 Classic picture. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wonka Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Is it just me or is the air conditioning on the new Nova's very weak compared to the newer orders of Flyers? It seems to be especially weak or almost non-existent in the rear section, to the point that you can't even feel it blowing down on you from anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 07/06/2016 at 8:40 PM, BT Invero said: do they not normally run the novas on sundays? last few times in hamilton on a sunday i saw all flyers Every Nova i've been on so far has either had non-working A/C(in the case of 1504 a few weeks ago), or it hasn't been on(in the case of 1501 yesterday morning). I'm not a fan of the Nova's. I see why they ordered them, but I was hoping for more Xcelsior's(XN40?). Most operators i've talked to don't like the Nova's, either. Hopefully, the consortium goes back to NFI, or HSR abandons it and orders their own buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I like the styling of the Nova's over the Flyer's and the interior seems to be wider and more accessible but the build quality seems to be really inferior. They ride incredibly rough and rattly, I can only imagine how they'll sound after they're 10 years old. The '97s were absolutely terrible for that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Wonka said: I like the styling of the Nova's over the Flyer's and the interior seems to be wider and more accessible but the build quality seems to be really inferior. They ride incredibly rough and rattly, I can only imagine how they'll sound after they're 10 years old. The '97s were absolutely terrible for that as well. I know! Take a look at some of the seats as well. The side panels on them are starting to come off already, and I am sure that is a result of the build quality and the fact they rattle a lot. If I had to choose I would choose XN40 over LFS. Also, I would love to see them replace the Arbocs with the Vicinity model, or, if NFI still has a 30-foot model, with those. They could also be used on low ridership routes, or routes that don't get many people at night, such as the 33. Are the Arboc's still doing well? Are the due for replacement anytime soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishap Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 3 hours ago, JRM1000 said: Also, I would love to see them replace the Arbocs with the Vicinity model, or, if NFI still has a 30-foot model, with those. They could also be used on low ridership routes, or routes that don't get many people at night, such as the 33. Maybe for low-ridership routes, but not to change out at night. Any cost benefits that might come from a smaller bus would be largely negated by the extra mileage and manpower required to swap buses in the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lip Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I've said this before (in terms of the TTC's own fleet of Nova's) but the NovaBus' are just an oddly designed bus and there's only so much that can be done with them. The seating works for the HSR since they stick with the perimeter arrangement with the odd rear wheelchair ramp placement; but to be honest in the long term, Volvo should really come up with something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid0920 Posted July 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2016 1601-1607 are on the property. They are identical to the 15's inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 On June 30, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Hybrid0920 said: 1601-1607 are on the property. They are identical to the 15's inside and out. Do you know if they've fixed the A/C issue? I was told HSR is aware of it and they made Nova aware of it as well. I was also told they are working on a fix, and a test bus should be done in about a month. Also, any word on when to expect them in service? Are they going to hang around until Sept like the Xcelsiors did? I was also told that these new Nova's mean the end of the 0300's and the worst of the 04/0500's(because both were bought in the same year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Glad to see that the A/C issue wasn't just in my head. I've noticed drivers opening the windows in the rear of the Nova's even with the A/C on because it basically does nothing back there. Get on a Nova from an Xcelsior with the A/C on and you'll notice a huge difference throughout the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Something I noticed with the Nova's. There is an alarm that goes off in the driver's area if they don't put on their seatbelt. Is this an HSR requested thing, or are all Nova's like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted July 13, 2016 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Its an option by HSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishap Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 4 hours ago, 7400 said: Its an option by HSR. Interesting. Not a bad thing, but I didn't think that they could get that specific with options when ordering buses. Otherwise, I would have expected them to also request that the 4-ways not flash when the doors are open, something they have disabled on all previous models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin ORION Posted July 14, 2016 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Mishap said: Interesting. Not a bad thing, but I didn't think that they could get that specific with options when ordering buses. Otherwise, I would have expected them to also request that the 4-ways not flash when the doors are open, something they have disabled on all previous models. When you buy a vehicle worth over half a million dollars you would want all options you can get. Everything can be reprogrammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 I have also noticed a clear film on the back windows. None have, or seem to be getting, the window film with the route numbers. Is that a Nova thing as well, or did they finally decide to replace the route number window film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I certainly hope so. I can't stand those blue filmed windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I am also not a fan of the front door on the Nova's(2/3 option). I am not sure why they went with that, or why they couldn't have gone with the same set up as Oakville. However, all in all, if they can get the A/C issue fixed, they are ok buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Councillor wants 'ugly' blue HSR bus window wraps removed Aidan Johnson says dark covering on bus windows detracts from experience of riding on public transit By Adam Carter, CBC NewsJul 20, 2016 Ward 1 Coun. Aidan Johnson is sick of the "ugly blue film" affixed to the windows of many of Hamilton's city buses — and so he is attempting to get rid of it once and for all. Johnson will move a motion at the Aug. 12 city council meeting to remove the blue wrap from HSR's fleet of buses. While originally conceived as a vandalism deterrent, the dark blue window-covering film makes it almost impossible to see out of the back windows of a bus. "I ride the HSR bus every day, and I always have a sinking feeling in my heart when I realize the only spots available are in the back," Johnson said. "We should be encouraging people to ride the bus, and I think this will help." In his motion, Johnson says the city's transit department is in the process of removing the film from "a number of buses" right now, and has started a pilot project using a clear anti-vandalism film on about 25 per cent of HSR's fleet of buses. Should the motion pass, staff would be directed to remove all remaining blue film from all bus windows, continue the pilot project with the clear film, and monitor the impacts of using the clear film, or none at all. Johnson says he has "asked about the cost" of the project, and is waiting to hear back. He says his "assumption is that it won't be cost-prohibitive." "We need to encourage more people to ride the HSR, and not create a disincentive," Johnson said. "Looking out the window is one of the pleasures of riding the bus. "My motion aims to bring that pleasure back." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/hsr-blue-bus-wraps-1.3687714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM1000 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Councillor wants 'ugly' blue HSR bus window wraps removed Aidan Johnson says dark covering on bus windows detracts from experience of riding on public transit By Adam Carter, CBC NewsJul 20, 2016 Ward 1 Coun. Aidan Johnson is sick of the "ugly blue film" affixed to the windows of many of Hamilton's city buses — and so he is attempting to get rid of it once and for all. Johnson will move a motion at the Aug. 12 city council meeting to remove the blue wrap from HSR's fleet of buses. While originally conceived as a vandalism deterrent, the dark blue window-covering film makes it almost impossible to see out of the back windows of a bus. "I ride the HSR bus every day, and I always have a sinking feeling in my heart when I realize the only spots available are in the back," Johnson said. "We should be encouraging people to ride the bus, and I think this will help." In his motion, Johnson says the city's transit department is in the process of removing the film from "a number of buses" right now, and has started a pilot project using a clear anti-vandalism film on about 25 per cent of HSR's fleet of buses. Should the motion pass, staff would be directed to remove all remaining blue film from all bus windows, continue the pilot project with the clear film, and monitor the impacts of using the clear film, or none at all. Johnson says he has "asked about the cost" of the project, and is waiting to hear back. He says his "assumption is that it won't be cost-prohibitive." "We need to encourage more people to ride the HSR, and not create a disincentive," Johnson said. "Looking out the window is one of the pleasures of riding the bus. "My motion aims to bring that pleasure back." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/hsr-blue-bus-wraps-1.3687714 The Nova's are the only buses i've seen the clear film applied to. I have not yet seen any others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busdriver385 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just curious if anyone knows how many 1600 Novas were purchased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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