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^^ Sweet! Thanks for the update. Were the Novas delivered when the 2003 New Flyers retired before the Pan Am Games back in July??

I didn't see the Novas in August or on Thanksgiving, but I might have missed them on Thanksgiving. It's possible 734 and 735 were retired befre the Novas arrived since there is a reduced service to the college/university in the summer. When the last high floors were retired they were only used on College/University runs, and NBT didn't use them after April but hung onto them until new buses arrived.

I realize that I have not actually confirmed that 784 is in service. I've only seen 785, but I swear that I have seen enough Novas that one of them must have been 784.

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No North Bay Transit buses are equipped with racks. Racks can be added after the fact, although the integration isn't ususally as nice as those that are installed when the bus is in productions and the bumper has the cutouts or mounting system built in. The costs I have heard in the past is approximately $500 per bus, but this ovbiously depends on a number of factors including the mounting option.

It doesn't matter if it's nice or not when bike raks are installed. It's just that how many people do actually using it. Sadly the City doesn't have any support or sponsors to have people using transit with cyclist fans around!

It's also that the public works people love their package tape to tape things for information and news while it looks sloppy!

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It doesn't matter if it's nice or not when bike raks are installed. It's just that how many people do actually using it. Sadly the City doesn't have any support or sponsors to have people using transit with cyclist fans around!

It's also that the public works people love their package tape to tape things for information and news while it looks sloppy!

If you build it, they will come.

As someone ho used to live in Callander, I used to bike to the Pinewood and hop the bus, taking the bike with me - YEAR ROUND. Start putting them on the buses that have the most ridership. Eventually, they will be used.

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I noticed the Wiki was updated to indicate that North Bay had leased Orion VII demonstrator PT2 from MTB. I found an article on this recently:

https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/one-bus-in-one-bus-out-991092

The article indicates that the vehicle was converted to straight diesel, and was purchased outright, not leased.

In addition, bus 766 is retired form service, but remains on site at the public works yard awaiting disposal.

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A few updates from North Bay:

There are now six D40LF buses sitting in the boneyard area of the public works yard. I can't confirm numbers, but assuming they are the oldest units in the fleet, they could be 765 and 766, which are confirmed retired on the wiki, and 764, 767, 768 and 769, which are listed as active on the wiki. That would leave 22 active buses, while NBT has confirmed they are aiming for a 21 vehicle fleet, so my fleet number guesses could be off.

North Bay's Para Bus has a new operator. For over a decade and as long as I can recall, this service was operated by PHARA, the Physically Handicapped Adults' Rehabilitation Association. PHARA indicated that they would not continue their agreement in April, and it expired July 31st, 2018. PHARA was responsible for operations only, with maintenance and ownership remaining with the city.

https://www.nugget.ca/2018/05/18/city-seeking-new-parabus-operator/

As a new contractor was not ready in time, Stock Transportation assumed operations of the system using school bus drivers until a new contract was awarded. The winning bid was Voyago. From the city's website:

"REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL # 2018-37

Request For Proposals For Operation of Specialized Transit Services

Awarded to Voyago of 573 Admiral Court London, ON N5V 4L3 for the amount of 2,681,611.88 on September 5, 2018
HST extra"

https://www.nugget.ca/news/local-news/para-bus-contract-awarded

The Para buses now have "Operated by Voyago" decals on them.

In addition, Para Bus now has two new low-floor Ram Promaster based vans, as mentioned in the first article linked above. Solar powered bus shelters, mentioned in the first article above have also been installed. Finally, the conventional fleet is being equipped with SEON CCTV cameras, purchased through the Metrolinx TPI and funded by PTIF funds.

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I decided to check out what the transit system was like in North Bay. I got a few photos of 770 (2008 D40LF) and I went for a ride on two of the XD40’s from the transit terminal to Northgate Shopping Centre. There will be a video uploaded to my YouTube channel sometime tonight. 

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7 minutes ago, BlueBirdVision said:

I decided to check out what the transit system was like in North Bay. I got a few photos of 770 (2008 D40LF) and I went for a ride on two of the XD40’s from the transit terminal to Northgate Shopping Centre. There will be a video uploaded to my YouTube channel sometime tonight. 

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Did you see the Orion VII in service?

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I was in North Bay over the holidays and noticed a few changes.

Buses 792 and 793 are in service. These are Nova LFS units like their other recent purchases, I assume from the Metrolinx Transit Purchasing Initiative. They have the new design for the fan on the drivers side of the engine compartment, like OC Transpo's newest units. These new buses also feature multi-colour destination signs and rear destination signs, both firsts for the North Bay fleet.

Units 772 and 773 have been retired, and are confirmed to be sitting in the city "boneyard" with plates removed.

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I was talking to an operator the other day, apparently the Orion VII has been in and out of the shop constantly due to engine problems. I also asked about North Bay still having raised floor buses, and apparently the last one left the city a decade ago. So the odds that we still have a fishbowl bus are impossible.

And for all those interested in knowing when they order buses, it's normally 2 in the spring, 2 in the summer and 2 in the fall. But they will sometimes not get any depending on the condition of the older buses. But from the looks of it, 770 and 774 might be next to go. Since I have seen multiple instances on 770 where the led light for front won't illuminate. It may have been refurbished but it still needs repair quite often. And for 774, the back door has had multiple instances of the back door not opening.

 

I hope you guys find this information useful.

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2 hours ago, SyphixTV said:

I also asked about North Bay still having raised floor buses, and apparently the last one left the city a decade ago. So the odds that we still have a fishbowl bus are impossible.

All their high floor buses have been gone for about 8 years or more.

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On 2/16/2020 at 12:40 AM, SyphixTV said:

I was talking to an operator the other day, apparently the Orion VII has been in and out of the shop constantly due to engine problems. I also asked about North Bay still having raised floor buses, and apparently the last one left the city a decade ago. So the odds that we still have a fishbowl bus are impossible.

And for all those interested in knowing when they order buses, it's normally 2 in the spring, 2 in the summer and 2 in the fall. But they will sometimes not get any depending on the condition of the older buses. But from the looks of it, 770 and 774 might be next to go. Since I have seen multiple instances on 770 where the led light for front won't illuminate. It may have been refurbished but it still needs repair quite often. And for 774, the back door has had multiple instances of the back door not opening.

 

I hope you guys find this information useful.

Well the Orion is an odd beast, being converted from a Hybrid.

NBT almost always orders 2 buses a year. Some years they skip and end up with 4 the next year, and some years they only replace 1, but they average 2 a year pretty consistently over more then a decade. It's been a long time since they replaced 6 buses in one year. They are also almost always replaced in order - the lowest numbers are the most likely to go at any time.

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On 2/19/2020 at 12:47 AM, Flalex72 said:

Well the Orion is an odd beast, being converted from a Hybrid.

NBT almost always orders 2 buses a year. Some years they skip and end up with 4 the next year, and some years they only replace 1, but they average 2 a year pretty consistently over more then a decade. It's been a long time since they replaced 6 buses in one year. They are also almost always replaced in order - the lowest numbers are the most likely to go at any time.

The Orion just returned to Toronto for more repairs, most likely won't be back until late spring. I'm also trying to gain access to boneyard to get some photos of 772 and 773. Haven't gotten a response from the public works supervisor yet. 770 is still operating, it was refurbished which is why it might still be in service but I could be wrong.

 

If anyone has questions let me know as ride North Bay transit everyday.

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On 9/26/2018 at 2:24 PM, 8792 said:

Spotted these two new Novas 788 and 789 this morning cutting through downtown Ottawa on their way to North Bay: 

 

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Why wouldn't newer buses be marked Out Of Service when being transported to the city they will be operating in? Is it just laziness? (3rd photo shows 1S Marshall)

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1 hour ago, SyphixTV said:

Why wouldn't newer buses be marked Out Of Service when being transported to the city they will be operating in? Is it just laziness? (3rd photo shows 1S Marshall)

Sometimes the drivers that are hired to transport buses from the factory to the agency like to put up random destination signs for a bit of fun. I've seen plenty of pics of TTC buses being driven down the 401 sporting subway shuttle signs.

Doesn't really matter as it's not like anyone is going to be trying to flag down a bus on the highway.

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I promise this is my last question, what is the rear destination sign (digital number sign) used for and why is it becoming such a necessity for transit companies to have them?

If a passenger is running for a bus and makes it without realizing it’s the wrong route it can cause a problem. Also other operators appreciate knowing what bus is on what route so they can determine, especially at rush hour if the bus is almost full wether they have to stop or not. There are several other reasons for these to appear, but I’m sure you can get the idea. 

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Due to the COVID-19 outbreak the following things will be happening on North Bay Transit in the next few days...

As of today, transit fares are free and you have to enter through the backdoor, if you need the bus to kneel to board you can request that

As of Saturday, March 21st buses will be running Saturday service (hourly) Sunday service stays the same

I am pretty sure other transit companies in Ontario are doing that, correct me if I'm wrong

 

Heres an article (I love the fact that they used a photo of one of the recently retired buses):

https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/use-the-rear-door-north-bay-transit-2183216

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On 2/21/2020 at 8:58 PM, SyphixTV said:

The Orion just returned to Toronto for more repairs, most likely won't be back until late spring. I'm also trying to gain access to boneyard to get some photos of 772 and 773. Haven't gotten a response from the public works supervisor yet. 770 is still operating, it was refurbished which is why it might still be in service but I could be wrong.

 

If anyone has questions let me know as ride North Bay transit everyday.

Ladies and gentlemen after being out of service for over a month, North Bay Transit #791 (Orion VII) is back in service. I wasn't able to get a front end shot but I'll try my best.

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The last bus that has the old lights/fixtures in it (Now retired) #772 along with #773. Can someone tell me what that huge thing is in the middle if the bus is? Looks like the engine but why would they take it out if it is? Wouldn't they want to sell it?

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