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On 5/7/2018 at 1:13 PM, SMS said:

The RTCS wiki page is hopelessly out of date. It is hoped that a wiki editor can do a cleanup. As an example, TUM-14 is still marked as active. Also, there is no evidence of TUM-18 (ex-RTL C9-802). It deserves to be said that this is the only ex-RTL bus currently active in Shawinigan. Also, it is worth noting that the bus is still running with the RTL logo! There is also an ex-Coach Canada bus there (49XX series from the ADMTL employees / econoparc shuttles) exx-NYU as made evident by the speedometer gauge in MPH.

I made the requested changes to the wiki, except for the ex-Coach Can as some infos are missing. If anyone has an ex-Coach Can fleet number to provide, please post it here.

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4 hours ago, webfil said:

I made the requested changes to the wiki, except for the ex-Coach Can as some infos are missing. If anyone has an ex-Coach Can fleet number to provide, please post it here.

TUM-17 is a 2004 NovaBus LFS that is ex-Autocar des Chutes 04-69, exx-Coach Canada 4976, new to Coach USA (NJ). It was acquired in 2016.

One more change ... TUM-16 is a 1996 NovaBus LFS that is ex-Réseau de transport de la Capitale (RTC) 9632, acquired 2016. I do not know if it is still active or not.

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Thanks for the corrections, and according to driver Simon, TUM-16 is indeed active.

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On 5/11/2018 at 1:14 PM, Seashore_518203 said:

TUM-17 is a 2004 NovaBus LFS that is ex-Autocar des Chutes 04-69, exx-Coach Canada 4976, new to Coach USA (NJ). It was acquired in 2016.

4976 would have been née Transport of Rockland, according to the Wiki. Are we speaking of the same vehicle?

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On 4/25/2018 at 1:20 PM, tomsbuspage said:

It looks as if Saguenay, Sherbrooke and Trois-Rivières will be adopting the Multi card based on the technology developed by the STO.  Trois-Rivière's card has not been rolled out yet, but Saguenay's and Sherbrooke's have:

https://sts.saguenay.ca/infos-pratiques/carte-acces

https://www.sts.qc.ca/affichage.php?id=124

The STTR's Multi Card now has a name: La carte Cité

https://sttr.qc.ca/tarifs-et-depositaires/carte-cite/

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La carte Cité est la nouvelle carte à puce de la Société de transport de Trois-Rivières. De façon simple et rapide, elle vous permettra de vous procurer votre titre de transport mensuel ou d’en faire un PME (porte-monnaie électronique). La nouvelle carte Cité remplacera l’inter-passe mensuel cartonné actuel qui ne sera plus disponible à partir du 2 octobre 2018. La carte Cité permettra de réduire un nombre considérable de papier, donc plus écologique!

Votre carte CITÉ est gratuite jusqu’au 1e octobre 2018 inclusivement à l’achat d’un titre mensuel ou d’un PME d’une valeur de plus de 10$.

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On 5/13/2018 at 9:13 AM, webfil said:

4976 would have been née Transport of Rockland, according to the Wiki. Are we speaking of the same vehicle?

Coach USA operated Rockland contract at the time

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2 hours ago, TheAverageJoe said:

Coach USA operated Rockland contract at the time

Thanks. I just fixed the redundant reference redundancy in the collaborative wiki.

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There will be some change in Shawinigan, Autobus Fleur-de-Lys has won a 10 years  contract to operate the service in replacement of the current operator Transport Urbain de la Mauricie (TUM). They plan to use hybrid bus for the new service. Change will happen July 1st

 

News report in french   https://www.lhebdodustmaurice.com/un-nouveau-transporteur-a-shawinigan/

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15 hours ago, eclair14 said:

There will be some change in Shawinigan, Autobus Fleur-de-Lys has won a 10 years  contract to operate the service in replacement of the current operator Transport Urbain de la Mauricie (TUM). They plan to use hybrid bus for the new service. Change will happen July 1st

I checked the Fleur-de-Lys website and their current fleet appears to consist of cutaways and coaches.  I really hope Shawinigan doesn't get a cutaway-only bus fleet. :(

https://www.autobusfleurdelys.com/fr/nos-autobus

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5 hours ago, tomsbuspage said:

I checked the Fleur-de-Lys website and their current fleet appears to consist of cutaways and coaches.  I really hope Shawinigan doesn't get a cutaway-only bus fleet. :(

https://www.autobusfleurdelys.com/fr/nos-autobus

Nope, it's specified in the tender that then want intermediate (Vicinity, Ez-rider, Alexander Dennis) or full size (LFS / Xclisor)

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That would be the second day of YUL Bus Charter 2019 Weekend!

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The STTR finally release the new system map for the July new network, let's look at the new network https://sttr.qc.ca/app/uploads/2019/05/sttr_cartegenerale_7.pdf

Route 2: Service in the lower part of Cap de la Madelaine like the current 2 but it will no longer loop, it will also service the eastern tip done now by route 10, western terminus at downtown terminal, service north of there is mostly picked up by route 25

Route 4: Still does Des Forges top to bottom, but will do so milk run around the CEGEP and Univeristy

Route 5: Serves mostly the same areas as current but will also cover some location no longer served by route 1, service ends at UQTR.

Route 6: It's the west part of the route that is kept, from Trois-Rivières Ouest mall to UQTR instead of Les Rivières. East part is mostly done by new route 60

Route 8 : Still serves the center part of Cap-de-la-Madelaine, but it's a really weird route going north-south a lot, after passing at Fusey terminal, it will also use Du Passage like the old 7 bus to end at Galeries du Cap. Part north of Galeries du Cap will be picked up by route 12

Route 9: Simplified in Pointe-du-Lac, more service in the village but most service on Notre-Dame is dropped

Route 10: Major changes on that route, instead of leaving from Fusey, it will left from Downtown terminal then EXPRESS to Galeries du Cap Terminal, from there, bus will circulate in residential areas north of A-40 (current route 6) then doing the north part of Sainte-Marthe, service in the south part will be picked up by route 2

Route 11: Very few change, route remains the same but will enter the new commercial development near A-55 instead of going further north along Mauricien Blvd.

Route 12: Some route changes in Cap-de-la-Madelaine to compensate loss of route 8 in that part of town, then up to St-Louis-de-France, northbound service will end further south then now as buses will no longer travel to Place Jourdain, route is extended to Fusey via du Passage

Route 13: Mix of route 1 and 3, from downtown, same route as the current 3  the same until Blvd. Rigaud, then route takes a north east route to go serve areas north of Rigaud Blvd. currently served by route 1

Route 16: Kinda new route, from the commercial area in developpement near A-55, it will travel north, serving residential areas west of A-40/A-55, then it will travel on Cherbourg (same as the 6) and Rigaud to end at UQTR

Route 25: From downtown, mostly following the old route 2 alignement, north of UQTR, picks up area left by the realignement of route 5, then it will go to Papineau like now but will serve the neighbourhood diferently

Route 60: East part of the route 6 is picked by this route, start from UQTR then the CEGEP to Galeries du Cap, then it does a shorter loop around Cap-de-la-Madelaine north part, some of the customers will use route 10 instead

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Was there any public consultation prior to these changes? I think we all know the answer to this: no.

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I was in trois-rivière on Sunday and i noticed that service ended at around 7pm is there a specific reason? Is it going to change with the system? 

Also a picture that I took from my instagram of STTR 1901

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Service demand is very low on Sunday night, so they take the night off, one exception is if the Monday is holiday,  then service is extended to midnight.

STTR is not alone doing that, STSaguenay and STLevis also does that

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Very likely going to be retired and decommissioned. According to a friend that drives there as a side line, those buses are kaput. No sense keeping them.

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Went to Trois-Rivières last week to witness the new network, and sadly the result is confusion and service problems.

Confusion was a bit to be expected, the decades old system that same bus stays on the same route and bus waiting for transfers at the same time each and every day is gone, now buses do interlines, transfer are not guaranteed between all routes at terminals. People also need to adapt to new routes, find new itinerary (i've personally helped a few of them), persons getting off the bus just to embark the same right bus they come off since it's changes routes. The learning curve is steep.

However, the STTR does a good job of creating frustration and confusion. Two stunning exemple

- Route #2 in the Cap de la Madelaine area is one of the busiest of the network, yet when planning they did not spot a humongous service gap, there is a two hours service gap towards downtown between 6:15pm and 8:15pm !

- During the night, some routes have changes to reduce walking time, STTR traditions dictate that they add the 8 number in front of them. However, ONLY the destination sign is program with the 8 in front (ex: 860), all others information, Transit App, Bus Stop, Paper Schedule, System map) have no information whatsoever about that !. Two exceptions are 86 and 89 has those was already planned to have night time variation

Also learned that some riches NIMBY have succeed in court to have the route 9 modified so they don't serve their street

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