Miscellaneous TTC Discussion & Questions

[Doggosareamazing]

On 3/26/2021 at 8:21 PM, PCC Guy said:

Yes, it was 7666 that was renumbered. But 7794 became 7882.

IIRC the reason why this happened was that the families of the buses involved requested that the TTC renumber the buses so that they wouldn't have to see the units that killed their loved ones around town. Had the accident not happened, 7666 would have finished her life as such.

I know initially before the rebuild, I did see 7794's number decal adhesive backing remains or the outline of with 7882 plastered on it and same goes for 7666 I think. (BEFORE the rebuilds) 

[AnalogPentium]

Spotted this on Twitter; there's a second NSS design in testing which looks FAR nicer.

https://twitter.com/Aaron853Chen/status/1378823089698570242/

[Xtrazsteve]

4 minutes ago, AnalogPentium said:

Spotted this on Twitter; there's a second NSS design in testing which looks FAR nicer.

https://twitter.com/Aaron853Chen/status/1378823089698570242/

I never understand why they can't just keep a clock in the top right corner. 

[Wayside Observer]

I found this blowing down the street after work the other night well down the road, surprisingly far down the road from Spadina.  Was the whole Spadina line bussed in the 8th?  I totally missed that but I guess that temporary sign lasted long enough before it blew away and I found it.  There’s a dusty tire track on it too so apparently it didn’t just get blown away, someone drove over it as well so I’d say it held up pretty well all things considered.

Anyways, should I donate it to HCRR?

[GTAmissions1]

18 hours ago, Wayside Observer said:

I found this blowing down the street after work the other night well down the road, surprisingly far down the road from Spadina.  Was the whole Spadina line bussed in the 8th?  I totally missed that but I guess that temporary sign lasted long enough before it blew away and I found it.  There’s a dusty tire track on it too so apparently it didn’t just get blown away, someone drove over it as well so I’d say it held up pretty well all things considered.

Anyways, should I donate it to HCRR?

Only between Queens Quay and Spadina Station for the 510. This is due to tunnel inspection work at the Spadina Tunnel. Streetcars ran from Union Station to Queens Quay.

Next closure is April 22nd and 23rd between midnight and 4:30 AM (two separate days) for the same reason. Except this time, streetcars will run between Charlotte Loop (Spadina/King) to Union Station. Buses replace north of King and loop around to the bus platform at Spadina. 

[MK78]

On 4/8/2021 at 12:09 AM, Xtrazsteve said:

I never understand why they can't just keep a clock in the top right corner. 

Or the STOP REQUEST indicator instead of scrolling it along with the stop name, time, operator ID, etc...

Maybe that newer (gray design) would have that, I hope they improve it since the 3100+ buses don't have the old separate red STOP REQUEST indicators.

[Xtrazsteve]

4 hours ago, MK78 said:

Or the STOP REQUEST indicator instead of scrolling it along with the stop name, time, operator ID, etc...

Maybe that newer (gray design) would have that, I hope they improve it since the 3100+ buses don't have the old separate red STOP REQUEST indicators.

If the TTC thinks the operator ID is important. Just have it scroll through once every minute. There’s no need for it to show less important messages every 10 seconds.

 The same goes for those LED displays at bus stops and terminals. It spends 1/5 actually showing the next arrival. Then they believe it’s important to show led sign ID, Bus stop location, visit TTC.ca for info, etc. If they can’t fix it themselves, it’s an issue they should work with nextbus. 

[PCC Guy]

Does anyone happen to remember what happened to H6 car 5857 after its derailment at Kennedy station in February 2008? I was browsing through some old posts where someone mentioned that they would be surprised if the car ever saw service again based on the damage that happened to it, and I've found no subsequent reference to the car anywhere (no retirement date for it on the wiki, either) but I don't remember ever hearing about an H6 retiring prematurely. Can anyone weigh in?

[Wayside Observer]

20 hours ago, GTAmissions1 said:

Only between Queens Quay and Spadina Station for the 510. This is due to tunnel inspection work at the Spadina Tunnel. Streetcars ran from Union Station to Queens Quay.

Next closure is April 22nd and 23rd between midnight and 4:30 AM (two separate days) for the same reason. Except this time, streetcars will run between Charlotte Loop (Spadina/King) to Union Station. Buses replace north of King and loop around to the bus platform at Spadina. 

Ah ok.  I'll have to watch for the notifications for the next closure.

Messages were exchanged and that sign that was blowing around closer to Bathurst St. is going to go to HCRR eventually when I can get it to someone who goes there.  Well, maybe I can go up there and drop it off.  It's been a while since I've seen someone sit brakes off and let a PCC car roll backwards.  Brings back memorie of one of my SEPTA friends that passed away who used to chew people up for doing that.  Whatever.  In the meantime, it's sitting in my back vestibule.

[TTC7447]

There had seemed to be a lot of concern and debate around Mount Dennis' Orion VII OG & NG Hybrids operating on the 927 Highway 27 Express prior to March 28.  I was wondering how that route was fairing since the switch?

[Wayside Observer]

2 hours ago, TTC7447 said:

There had seemed to be a lot of concern and debate around Mount Dennis' Orion VII OG & NG Hybrids operating on the 927 Highway 27 Express prior to March 28.  I was wondering how that route was fairing since the switch?

What was the concern?  They used to run Orion 7 bash'n'crash buses, both diesel and hybrid, on that route to replace RTSs that had problems with things like the doors flying open during the high speed runs on the 427 section of the line among other problems.  The Orion 7s at the time were seen as a necessary safety improvement.

[TTC7447]

33 minutes ago, Wayside Observer said:

What was the concern?  They used to run Orion 7 bash'n'crash buses, both diesel and hybrid, on that route to replace RTSs that had problems with things like the doors flying open during the high speed runs on the 427 section of the line among other problems.  The Orion 7s at the time were seen as a necessary safety improvement.

I had no concerns, but just wanted to follow up on others' concerns about their reliability on the highway.  The concern was dismissed by another user before movements occurred, so I was wondering if someone so invested in the matter was keeping track.  No biggie if not, I was just curious.

[BusFanForever]

10 hours ago, TTC7447 said:

I had no concerns, but just wanted to follow up on others' concerns about their reliability on the highway.  The concern was dismissed by another user before movements occurred, so I was wondering if someone so invested in the matter was keeping track.  No biggie if not, I was just curious.

The Hybrids have been doing fine so far on the highway. A little slow but they get the job done. We had a few buses with issues that would only show up on the highway but they have now been repaired. 

[Cityflyer]

Victoria Park Stn before renovations.

Does anyone remember the covered parking directly beneath the old bus terminal and what its use was? I saw some old pics of this area with cars parked inside from Transit Toronto but there is already a surface parking lot directly south of it.

How did cars entered this old covered parking lot? Google streetview 2007 (still shows the old terminal) doesn't show an actual entrance to this covered parking lot.

[Oc4526]

18 minutes ago, Cityflyer said:

Victoria Park Stn before renovations.

Does anyone remember the covered parking directly beneath the old bus terminal and what its use was? I saw some old pics of this area with cars parked inside from Transit Toronto but there is already a surface parking lot directly south of it.

How did cars entered this old covered parking lot? Google streetview 2007 (still shows the old terminal) doesn't show an actual entrance to this covered parking lot.

Judging from This image, there appears to be an access point for the covered lot (under the silver car that's up in the bus loop.)

[Ultimate]

The bus stop at Celeste Drive / Kingston Rd states following May 9th the stop will be moved 55 meters south. 55 Meters south would be inside of Guildwood GO Station. Is this a mistake in wording or will they be servicing inside Guildwood GO Station now?

[wil9402]

1 hour ago, Ultimate said:

The bus stop at Celeste Drive / Kingston Rd states following May 9th the stop will be moved 55 meters south. 55 Meters south would be inside of Guildwood GO Station. Is this a mistake in wording or will they be servicing inside Guildwood GO Station now?

I'm pretty sure it means they are moving it to the farside of the intersection. It can be confusing cause Kingston Rd runs diagonally. Better wording would have been southwest. I was wondering when this would happen. I noticed a few months ago after the RapidTO lanes were installed that they put in large 60-80ft  bus stop pads on the farside of a number of stops along the lanes.

[bus_7246]

The worker probably meant to use imperial measurements instead of metric (ft vs m). That department also seems to have directional issues. When construction was going on at the westbound stop at Eglinton Ave W & Ronald Ave, the temporary stop was located 3 pole east. But on the bottom of the post that states where the stop is relocated, it was written as 3 poles west... smh

[MRD10]

On 4/23/2021 at 10:40 PM, Ultimate said:

The bus stop at Celeste Drive / Kingston Rd states following May 9th the stop will be moved 55 meters south. 55 Meters south would be inside of Guildwood GO Station. Is this a mistake in wording or will they be servicing inside Guildwood GO Station now?

Another stop at SouthWest Eglinton and Midland will be moving some meters to the east following the date as well. They say it's to improve the RapidTO service, but I'm not sure how it would.

It would be really nice to see service right next to the Guildwood GO station, but it would probably never happen due to the tight intersection. Does the proposed Egli East LRT have an undergrounds/enclosed weather tunnel for commuters to use between the two?

[MK78]

2 hours ago, MRD10 said:

It would be really nice to see service right next to the Guildwood GO station, but it would probably never happen due to the tight intersection. Does the proposed Egli East LRT have an undergrounds/enclosed weather tunnel for commuters to use between the two?

I think that would really slow down the service, I live just up the road past the train bridge, and really have not see many people coming from the go station and get on buses. They mostly walk to the homes nearby.

[TTC7447]

Chester Station's second exit opened 3 days ago on April 23, 2021.  Picture included in the link below for anyone interested.

http://ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Construction/ChesterStationSecond.jsp

[wil9402]

On 4/25/2021 at 6:25 PM, MRD10 said:

Another stop at SouthWest Eglinton and Midland will be moving some meters to the east following the date as well. They say it's to improve the RapidTO service, but I'm not sure how it would.

Farside stops speed up service as it reduces the dwell time at the stop. The bus can take off as soon as they finish servicing the stop. They don't have to wait for the traffic signal to change as they would if they were servicing a nearside stop like they are now. In addition, with transit priority signaling they can hold green lights to make it across the intersection. These two things combined allow service to run faster. Most surface transit with dedicated lanes use this layout for most of their stops (all the TTC streetcar ROWs, VIVA Rapidways, etc).

21 hours ago, MK78 said:

I think that would really slow down the service, I live just up the road past the train bridge, and really have not see many people coming from the go station and get on buses. They mostly walk to the homes nearby.

A lot of drivers like other GO stations. In all the times I've used Guildwood GO over the years I've only seen a handful of people transfer between it and the buses on Kingston Rd.

[smallspy]

14 hours ago, wil9402 said:

Farside stops speed up service as it reduces the dwell time at the stop. The bus can take off as soon as they finish servicing the stop. They don't have to wait for the traffic signal to change as they would if they were servicing a nearside stop like they are now. In addition, with transit priority signaling they can hold green lights to make it across the intersection. These two things combined allow service to run faster. Most surface transit with dedicated lanes use this layout for most of their stops (all the TTC streetcar ROWs, VIVA Rapidways, etc).

That only works, however, in concert with functional signal priority.

 

If there is no signal priority, than there no difference in having near-side or far-side stops. The location of the stop doesn't change the likelihood of a vehicle coming to an intersection and having to stop due to the signals.

 

Dan

[Someguy3071]

1 hour ago, smallspy said:

That only works, however, in concert with functional signal priority.

 

If there is no signal priority, than there no difference in having near-side or far-side stops. The location of the stop doesn't change the likelihood of a vehicle coming to an intersection and having to stop due to the signals.

 

Dan

TTC buses don't get signal priority to keep the light green. It's so much fun hitting a red after red after red. At some intersections we'll get an advanced left though.

They even screw a lot of our tranist lights. For example,  transit light coming out of Don Mills station is supposed to be 7 seconds long but in reality that light is 3 to 4 seconds long.

[Bus_Medic]

13 minutes ago, Someguy3071 said:

TTC buses don't get signal priority to keep the light green. It's so much fun hitting a red after red after red. At some intersections we'll get an advanced left though.

They even screw a lot of our tranist lights. For example,  transit light coming out of Don Mills station is supposed to be 7 seconds long but in reality that light is 3 to 4 seconds long.

They do.

or, at least they did. I don’t think the current Novax transponders are maintained anymore.
https://www.novax.com/metrotag-overview

The technology on them is about the same vintage as CIS. The floor of Malvern’s wash racks had induction loops installed to check them nightly, but the concrete was recently replaced, and I don’t think the loops were re installed.

I can’t speak for the engineering department, but I reckon they’re in the process of selecting something more current to go with.