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18 hours ago, wil9402 said:

I would argue that more riders will be traveling to/from the residential area around Sloane than the industrial area around Bermondsey, thus making Sloane a more important name. There is only one station that will be named after two streets on Line 5 and that is Hakimi Lebovic. The original name for this stop was just Lebovic but the TTC board chose to change it to Hakimi Lebovic as requested by Commissioner De Baeremaeker. The Metrolinx board later adopted this change. They did this to honour both businessmen Joseph Lebovic and Karim Hakimi for their contributions to the community.

Sloane will be the odd one out then as there are several stops on the Finch LRT line with double names (and one pair of stations that would have had Ardwick - Duncanwoods and Pearldale - added to both if they strictly adhered to that rule).  I'm not sure if they're seriously going that route with the Cummer/Drewry station on the Yonge North extension if it ever gets built.  It'd be the first one on Yonge to do that despite several pairs of streets changing names with College/Carlton, Chaplin/Davisville and Wilson/York Mills - this last one has some merit as there is also the Wilson station which opened 5 years later.

Martin Grove could also go by Elmbank while Jane & Finch could have used Yorkgate if they didn't want to use a name that carries a notoriety in Toronto.  The Eglinton West section is going to start grapsing at straws for alternate names.

For future stop and in the case of the Finch LRT while there's still time they could have named some of the stops after prominent/historic Torontonians.  Even better if they had a connection to the stop.  That gets around the duplication of names which Metrolinx is desperately trying to avoid.  Just as long as the names are properly researched and vetted so that we don't wind up having to change it if something unwarranted comes up.

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On 3/28/2021 at 9:37 AM, Articulated said:

Line 7 would have been assigned to the Sheppard East LRT, which has been indefinitely shelved with the current provincial government's preference for a subway along that corridor; therefore, no immediate need to clear out that number for it.

I know there's a lot of younger members here who won't remember the events that took place leading up to this situation so, just so everyone's clear on this, the current Conservative provincial government's preference for a subway along that part of Sheppard comes after the provincial government scratched the full length Sheppard subway the last time we had a provincial Conservative government.  What got built only got built as far as Don Mills because that's where the reduced budget for it ran out of money.

Of course, had Transit City gone ahead, we'd be changing to an LRT car at Don Mills by now, but that can got kicked down the road by McGuinty far enough that Rob Ford was able to cancel it.

In closing, I hope everyone's enjoying the 85 Sheppard East bus.

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9 minutes ago, Wayside Observer said:

I know there's a lot of younger members here who won't remember the events that took place leading up to this situation so, just so everyone's clear on this, the current Conservative provincial government's preference for a subway along that part of Sheppard comes after the provincial government scratched the full length Sheppard subway the last time we had a provincial Conservative government.  What got built only got built as far as Don Mills because that's where the reduced budget for it ran out of money.

Of course, had Transit City gone ahead, we'd be changing to an LRT car at Don Mills by now, but that can got kicked down the road by McGuinty far enough that Rob Ford was able to cancel it.

In closing, I hope everyone's enjoying the 85 Sheppard East bus.

I imagine the promised-but-never-delivered subway extension or LRT is part of the reason they run artics on the 85?

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3 minutes ago, TransitFan88 said:

I imagine the promised-but-never-delivered subway extension or LRT is part of the reason they run artics on the 85?

It's always been a heavy route.  Heck, I even shot pictures of Orion articulateds on it before the subway to Don Mills opened and the bus route ran from Sheppard station at Yonge St.

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1 hour ago, TransitFan88 said:

I imagine the promised-but-never-delivered subway extension or LRT is part of the reason they run artics on the 85?

They don’t run artics on the 85 anymore. Only 985. That made the express routes slower and more reason not to wait for express buses.

Artics doesn’t have any special meanings with the TTC. It just means worst service for customers as they need longer operating trips and wider headway with no additional capacity. They turn a 14 min headway into 21 min on the 985A during late nights. I don’t think anyone would actually want that.

 If TTC were to make artics route a higher end route, they wouldn’t do that. 

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3 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

They don’t run artics on the 85 anymore. Only 985. That made the express routes slower and more reason not to wait for express buses.

Artics doesn’t have any special meanings with the TTC. It just means worst service for customers as they need longer operating trips and wider headway with no additional capacity. They turn a 14 min headway into 21 min on the 985A during late nights. I don’t think anyone would actually want that.

 If TTC were to make artics route a higher end route, they wouldn’t do that. 

Totally.  Remember how crappy service got on Queen when the ALRVs arrived and the TTC kept service at the same level by really spacing out the cars?  It’s exactly that.  With the TTC, when it comes to articulated vehicles, it’s always been bad news because they like to put them on the heavy routes which would be great at first glance if the frequency was kept up or at least not cut all the way down to the equivalent carrying capacity but that’s where the TTC always settles, equivalent carrying capacity but at much less frequent intervals.  And they love doing this to the heaviest routes they have.  Steve Munro’s written about the mess that ALRVs made on Queen several times now.

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It looks like the company is finally trying to put their bus LCD screens to use. 3613 was displaying preceding stop names in the box on the list left of the screen on the 84A westbound. I’ve seen similar on the Proterras on the 32A in the early mornings as well

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1 hour ago, bus_7246 said:

 

It looks like the company is finally trying to put their bus LCD screens to use. 3613 was displaying preceding stop names in the box on the list left of the screen on the 84A westbound. I’ve seen similar on the Proterras on the 32A in the early mornings as well

 

I got this one last week on a BYD on the 54:

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On 3/30/2021 at 9:12 PM, bus_7246 said:

It looks like the company is finally trying to put their bus LCD screens to use. 3613 was displaying preceding stop names in the box on the list left of the screen on the 84A westbound. I’ve seen similar on the Proterras on the 32A in the early mornings as well

Oh, it's been like this for a few weeks now. In terms of the UI design, it's a total waste.

 

EDIT: Just to add on, there are (or were, not sure if the units got transferred) quite a few Arrow LFS buses with it as well as a few Xcelsiors that had it enabled.

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14 hours ago, Doppelkupplung said:

They should do something similar to MTA. They have the most important info on there, now they just need to maximize the ux/ui. But man has it ever taken ages. 

I've literally seen children make more aesthetically pleasing things in Kid Pix so yeah they reallllllly need to get on this.

They can start by making some text bigger because I honestly have a few AODA concerns. Now, I don't know a whole lot about the AODA itself and guidelines surrounding it but something tells me that having extremely small text on a small display isn't compliant.

Beyond that though it's just basic graphic design which shouldn't even be hard to make work since I'm pretty sure these are HTML5-based. I'll just assume that they're just using this UI as a test to see if it works.

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Can anyone please confirm the exact number of buses (conventional/wheeltran/community) currently in the TTC fleet?

If possible, could the total be broken into those three groups? Additionally, even with the addition of McNicoll garage, are bus divisions still experiencing a storage/space allocation issue?

I am working on a project where I really need this stat. I really appreciate whoever can help me out!

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When the TTC converted the 9400s to diesels, why did they opt for the unique M11 instead of the S50 which was much more common on buses from that era?

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5 hours ago, PCC Guy said:

When the TTC converted the 9400s to diesels, why did they opt for the unique M11 instead of the S50 which was much more common on buses from that era?

I think it had to do with the positioning of other components that were already installed when that batch was manufactured. For example, the air filter access panel was on the drivers side and the coolant access panel was on the curb side of the DD Series 50 Vs. The 9400s had the opposite setup. If the TTC were to go for the Series 50 for them, there would’ve been more down time on that fleet for realigning the plumbing of major components 

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10 hours ago, PCC Guy said:

When the TTC converted the 9400s to diesels, why did they opt for the unique M11 instead of the S50 which was much more common on buses from that era?

You’d have to re engineer the whole electrical and hydraulic system.

All the belts and pulleys from an L10 were re used on the M11. I’d also argue that the M11 is more common overall.

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:21 PM, PCC Guy said:

Yes, it was 7666 that was renumbered. But 7794 became 7882.

IIRC the reason why this happened was that the families of the buses involved requested that the TTC renumber the buses so that they wouldn't have to see the units that killed their loved ones around town. Had the accident not happened, 7666 would have finished her life as such.

I know initially before the rebuild, I did see 7794's number decal adhesive backing remains or the outline of with 7882 plastered on it and same goes for 7666 I think. (BEFORE the rebuilds) 

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I found this blowing down the street after work the other night well down the road, surprisingly far down the road from Spadina.  Was the whole Spadina line bussed in the 8th?  I totally missed that but I guess that temporary sign lasted long enough before it blew away and I found it.  There’s a dusty tire track on it too so apparently it didn’t just get blown away, someone drove over it as well so I’d say it held up pretty well all things considered.

Anyways, should I donate it to HCRR?

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18 hours ago, Wayside Observer said:

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I found this blowing down the street after work the other night well down the road, surprisingly far down the road from Spadina.  Was the whole Spadina line bussed in the 8th?  I totally missed that but I guess that temporary sign lasted long enough before it blew away and I found it.  There’s a dusty tire track on it too so apparently it didn’t just get blown away, someone drove over it as well so I’d say it held up pretty well all things considered.

Anyways, should I donate it to HCRR?

Only between Queens Quay and Spadina Station for the 510. This is due to tunnel inspection work at the Spadina Tunnel. Streetcars ran from Union Station to Queens Quay.

Next closure is April 22nd and 23rd between midnight and 4:30 AM (two separate days) for the same reason. Except this time, streetcars will run between Charlotte Loop (Spadina/King) to Union Station. Buses replace north of King and loop around to the bus platform at Spadina. 

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