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Well, the province is supposedly order only essential businesses remain open on Wednesday, so the ridership will go down even more. TTC will probably have no choice to reduce service levels.

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19 minutes ago, MK78 said:

Well, the province is supposedly order only essential businesses remain open on Wednesday, so the ridership will go down even more. TTC will probably have no choice to reduce service levels.

25% of runs never left the garage this morning. They’re already reduced anyway.

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19 minutes ago, Bus_Medic said:

25% of runs never left the garage this morning. They’re already reduced anyway.

They need to go to some kind of modified Sunday service ... which is almost 50% of weekday AM peak. Streetcars look pretty empty.

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28 minutes ago, Xtrazsteve said:

There's no Express service runs anymore except 900 and 927. Seems like soon everything off peak will run 20-30 min

Yeah, didn't notice any out today except for one 985 bus heading towards Don Mills. I assumed it was a 985A coming from STC. Artics from 985 were reassigned to 85 today.

Based on the Transee, It looks like Mt Dennis chose to throw a few of their extra artics onto 89 today, i guess to compensate for the loss of 989.

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1 hour ago, Bus_Medic said:

25% of runs never left the garage this morning. They’re already reduced anyway.

Yeah I've been home since Thursday afternoon so I hadn't seen anything this week. Wont be taking the TTC for the very forseeable future anyway. Thank god they let us cancel those 12 month Presto passes just in time. Though Im sure a lot of folks didn't.

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47 minutes ago, MK78 said:

Thank god they let us cancel those 12 month Presto passes just in time. Though Im sure a lot of folks didn't.

They've extended the cancellation dates, so it can still be done.

 

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ah, good for the people that missed it.

I would have had I not put a reminder on my phone to check into it, when i was trying to figure out how to update my credit card info.

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So they are moving from not handing transfers out to making the only form of payment Presto cards. Wonder if fare evasion played any part in this decision but they had rear do entry in place anyways. Stay safe to all the TTC workers on the front lines and beyond. 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/23/health-experts-warn-of-face-mask-shortage-1472-cases-of-confirmed-and-presumptive-covid-19-in-canada.html

8:00 p.m.: The TTC will stop accepting cash, tickets, and tokens on all of its bus routes and will ask passengers to only use the vehicles’ rear doors in effort to protect the agency’s drivers from the spread of COVID-19. Until further notice, the only way for bus riders to pay on the vehicles will be with the Presto fare card.

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2 minutes ago, CBlake said:

So they are moving from not handing transfers out to making the only form of payment Presto cards. Wonder if fare evasion played any part in this decision but they had rear do entry in place anyways. Stay safe to all the TTC workers on the front lines and beyond. 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/23/health-experts-warn-of-face-mask-shortage-1472-cases-of-confirmed-and-presumptive-covid-19-in-canada.html

8:00 p.m.: The TTC will stop accepting cash, tickets, and tokens on all of its bus routes and will ask passengers to only use the vehicles’ rear doors in effort to protect the agency’s drivers from the spread of COVID-19. Until further notice, the only way for bus riders to pay on the vehicles will be with the Presto fare card.

March 23, 2020

Effective today, and being implemented over the next 24 hours, the TTC is kindly asking its bus customers to board and exit from the rear doors only, unless the accessible ramp needs to be deployed, as fare boxes will not be accessible. This change, made in consultation with ATU Local 113, allows for greater social distancing while minimizing potential contact with operators. TTC operators have also been instructed to keep their protective barriers closed at all times.

Last week, operators stopped handing out paper transfers to bus customers paying by cash, tickets or tokens. The TTC will no longer be accepting payment by cash, tickets or tokens on TTC buses (excluding Wheel-Trans) starting on March 24. Customers are asked to pay using PRESTO where available.

"This move is being made to prioritize the health and safety of our employees and customers," said TTC CEO Rick Leary. "We continue to focus on physical distancing, social equity and ensuring we match capacity to demand."

The TTC continues to take direction and follow the sound advice from Toronto Public Health regarding what precautions and controls should be implemented to protect the well-being of our customers and employees.

With more than 90 per cent of riders now using PRESTO, customers are still required to tap their PRESTO card and PRESTO ticket when boarding a vehicle or entering a station.

The TTC is closely monitoring ridership and service trends daily across all modes, and reviewing staffing and resources in order to effectively match service delivery with availability.

Over the past week, daily PRESTO taps indicated ridership declined by more than 70 per cent as compared to a typical early March weekday. While the TTC continues to move a substantial number of people across the system each day, customer travel patterns are changing and ridership is declining.

As a result, the following service changes are affected:
- All 900-series Express routes are reallocated as needed, except for 900 Airport Express, 903 Kennedy-Scarborough Centre Express and 927 Highway 27 Express.
- All 140-series Downtown Express routes are reallocated as where needed.
- 176 Mimico GO and 508 Lake Shore service is reallocated as needed.

Regular bus services will continue to run along Express routes that are suspended, with the majority of service operating every 10 minutes or better. All neighbourhoods continue to be served and additional buses will be operated where and when required.

The service changes will be reflected on public facing applications (e.g. NextBus, Triplinx, etc.) in the week ahead. Please expect some prediction irregularity to occur while updates are being implemented.

The deadline for PRESTO card customers to cancel their Autorenew or 12 Month Pass for April, has been extended until 11:59 p.m. on Friday, March 27. Customers wishing to cancel their Autorenew or 12 Month Pass, should visit prestocard.ca and log into their My PRESTO Account. Anyone who wants to re-sign up for Autorenew or a 12 Month Pass can do so during the pass sales window, which is available from the last 12 days of the month until eight days after the next month.

For the complete list of 900 Express and 140 Downtown Express routes please visit ttc.ca.

For more information on TTC Routes, Schedules and Fares, please call 416-393-INFO (4636) or TTY Line at 416-481-2523.

The TTC is committed to keeping customers informed about work and events that impact service and about alternative routes. For the most up-to-date information, follow @TTCNotices on Twitter or sign up for eAlerts or visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ttc.ca&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccb7da19df5be4a89c65a08d7cf775b42%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637205983839299034&sdata=UnDOIQedpvp3y9r4ZrRzaOAahEK416lRGlWUinfvv0Y%3D&reserved=0

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3 hours ago, CBlake said:

So would you just get on a bus if you do not have a Presto card?

Why not when TTC is already saying so and expecting to happen?? If you are on a bus route that doesn't use a subway stop or have no need to go to one, how do you pay to ride it now???

Other systems are doing the same thing as well. TTC is not forcing riders to buy a Presto card at this time, but that has been the plan for years as well other systems who use Presto as well. It was supposed to be last year or so, but with all the Presto issues, didn't happen. Last year saw TTC stop selling tickets, passes, day pass or tokens, but allowing rider to use them up since TTC will not refund the money for them. You could your pass on your Presto card as well your age and pay the going rate based on your age.

As a visitor to US systems, I have an option of having to buy a card and put funds on it for my trips, or getting 1-7 day pass from machines that don't have staff on had at them. Its the same way in Europe. Depending on the system, you can use cash, debit or credit card to buy your fare.

There is and will be riders who only can afford to pay for the day fare based on what they earn the day before and can't save enough money to buy the Presto and maintain X $$ on it. Some have no bank account and that rules out debit or credit card due to various reason.

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The Board period for May 10 to June Something came out, with no changes to service. So well see if they pull it before operators start signing. They're better off just leaving it, and working the magic through out the board period.

Trains have been cancelled and some running in much earlier.

 

 

I'm notice some TTC and Miway Buses running with a seated load and standing load, most likely due to reduction or cancelled runs, which defeats the purpose of social distancing. Transit will be a playground for Corona.

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18 hours ago, CBlake said:

So they are moving from not handing transfers out to making the only form of payment Presto cards. Wonder if fare evasion played any part in this decision but they had rear do entry in place anyways. Stay safe to all the TTC workers on the front lines and beyond. 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/03/23/health-experts-warn-of-face-mask-shortage-1472-cases-of-confirmed-and-presumptive-covid-19-in-canada.html

8:00 p.m.: The TTC will stop accepting cash, tickets, and tokens on all of its bus routes and will ask passengers to only use the vehicles’ rear doors in effort to protect the agency’s drivers from the spread of COVID-19. Until further notice, the only way for bus riders to pay on the vehicles will be with the Presto fare card.

While many other transit services all across the country are implementing free-fare.. (Even Vancouver and Montreal is doing it)

Why on earth the TTC is still refusing to implement that?? Basically the TTC is the only transit service in Canada which is not doing it.

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1 hour ago, raptorjays said:

While many other transit services all across the country are implementing free-fare.. (Even Vancouver and Montreal is doing it)

Why on earth the TTC is still refusing to implement that?? Basically the TTC is the only transit service in Canada which is not doing it.

The vast majority of transit systems locate all of their fare payment (the farebox) at the front door next to the driver. If passengers are not allowed to go near the driver, they cannot access the farebox. It is not that transit systems are choosing to give free fares to riders during this time, they simply do not have any way to collect fares without risking exposure to their employees.

However, TTC decided to install Presto readers at the back doors of their vehicles. Therefore, passengers using Presto cards still have the ability to pay their fare when they enter a vehicle. TTC has already suspended the collection of cash fares, tickets, and tokens on buses, because as mentioned passengers cannot deposit these fares, and cannot receive a transfer as proof of payment.

Btw, York Region Transit has also said that rides are not "free" despite having the same rear-door boarding measures on all vehicles; because they have fare payment devices located on Viva station platforms, riders are still expected to purchase or validate their fares when starting, ending, or transferring at a Viva stop.

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1 hour ago, raptorjays said:

While many other transit services all across the country are implementing free-fare.. (Even Vancouver and Montreal is doing it)

Why on earth the TTC is still refusing to implement that?? Basically the TTC is the only transit service in Canada which is not doing it.

Are you joking? The TTC is going to need their fares now more than ever.

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Many TTC buses running around this morning with a new P/R destination sign for "REAR DOOR BOARDING".  But is par for the course with some of their recent destination sign programming, they didn't program the rear signs to read correctly...

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18 hours ago, raptorjays said:

While many other transit services all across the country are implementing free-fare.. (Even Vancouver and Montreal is doing it)

Why on earth the TTC is still refusing to implement that?? Basically the TTC is the only transit service in Canada which is not doing it.

OC Transpo also have Presto readers installed at the rear doors on their articulated and double decker buses.  They've stopped accepting cash fares or paper transfers, but they are still expecting Presto and Multi-day pass users to tap their cards if possible.  On forty-foot buses without Presto readers at the rear, there is simply no place to tap a card, so those buses are de facto offering free service.

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Something I've noticed: on the entry to some pocket tracks, like between Chester and Broadview, one of the rails at the point of intersection appears to be continuous, like in this picture, thus making it seemingly impossible to switch tracks to access the pocket track. What is the reason for this, and is there a way for the track to switch in these cases?

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4 minutes ago, 81-717 said:

Something I've noticed: on the entry to some pocket tracks, like between Chester and Broadview, one of the rails at the point of intersection appears to be continuous, like in this picture, thus making it seemingly impossible to switch tracks to access the pocket track. What is the reason for this, and is there a way for the track to switch in these cases?

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Just wondering.  It's Saturday morning  and there are 39 alerts.  Most due to suspended express bus service.  There always seems to be several escalators out of service, today, 5, not counting those affected by the power outage.   I know these subway escalators probably run 20 hours daily.   Is it a question of heavy wear and tear or possibly inferior equipment?   Any thoughts, anyone?

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14 hours ago, 81-717 said:

Something I've noticed: on the entry to some pocket tracks, like between Chester and Broadview, one of the rails at the point of intersection appears to be continuous, like in this picture, thus making it seemingly impossible to switch tracks to access the pocket track. What is the reason for this, and is there a way for the track to switch in these cases?

As @Bus_Medic mentioned, the TTC has been converting many of its little-used crossovers to use "lift frogs". Normally, when two tracks intersect, both rails need a gap in order for the flange to pass through the other rail. In a lift frog, the secondary rail gets lifted enough so that the flanges on passing trains can clear the main line rail without requiring a gap; therefore, the main line rail can be continuous through the switch. It leads to a much quieter and a bit smoother ride, because trains are not thumping over gaps in the rail, and maintenance costs are lower because trains are just running straight through and not wearing down the edge of the gap.

I believe the Ossington centre track was the first location on the network to be converted over to lift frogs, maybe 2-3 years ago. Other infrequently-used crossovers are having lift frogs installed; the crossover south of Lawrence Station is having them installed currently.

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1 hour ago, Tramguy said:

Just wondering.  It's Saturday morning  and there are 39 alerts.  Most due to suspended express bus service.  There always seems to be several escalators out of service, today, 5, not counting those affected by the power outage.   I know these subway escalators probably run 20 hours daily.   Is it a question of heavy wear and tear or possibly inferior equipment?   Any thoughts, anyone?

I suspect that the problem is more with the elevating devices servicemen, and in particular their lack of numbers at this moment. There simply aren't enough of them working right now to get to all of the equipment that needs to be fixed.

 

1 hour ago, Articulated said:

As @Bus_Medic mentioned, the TTC has been converting many of its little-used crossovers to use "lift frogs". Normally, when two tracks intersect, both rails need a gap in order for the flange to pass through the other rail. In a lift frog, the secondary rail gets lifted enough so that the flanges on passing trains can clear the main line rail without requiring a gap; therefore, the main line rail can be continuous through the switch. It leads to a much quieter and a bit smoother ride, because trains are not thumping over gaps in the rail, and maintenance costs are lower because trains are just running straight through and not wearing down the edge of the gap.

I believe the Ossington centre track was the first location on the network to be converted over to lift frogs, maybe 2-3 years ago. Other infrequently-used crossovers are having lift frogs installed; the crossover south of Lawrence Station is having them installed currently.

While the upsides as you note are pretty substantial, there is also one pretty serious downside to it as well - the diverging route must operate at a substantially lower speed than the main route. On the mainline railways, it's usually 5 or 10mph, on the TTC subway I believe it is 7 to 10km/h. This has the negative effect of causing the train taking the diverging route to spend more time occupying the turnout and the respective blocks of the signal system, and thus causing trains behind it to stack up.

 

There are other methods of attaining a gap-less crossing, but they too have their own serious downsides - and usually, it has to do with ongoing maintenance. Lift/jump frogs are usually pretty maintenance-free, which is a very serious plus on a very intensively used railway such as a subway system.

 

While the Ossington spare track was done fairly early on, wasn't Islington the first one installed?

 

Dan

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22 hours ago, Tramguy said:

Just wondering.  It's Saturday morning  and there are 39 alerts.  Most due to suspended express bus service.  There always seems to be several escalators out of service, today, 5, not counting those affected by the power outage.   I know these subway escalators probably run 20 hours daily.   Is it a question of heavy wear and tear or possibly inferior equipment?   Any thoughts, anyone?

the escalators will have more usage than the ones at the malls.  Also due to close proximity to the streets, salts and other crap get stuck in the escalators which lead to more break downs.  

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On 3/25/2020 at 8:50 AM, Matt said:

Many TTC buses running around this morning with a new P/R destination sign for "REAR DOOR BOARDING".  But is par for the course with some of their recent destination sign programming, they didn't program the rear signs to read correctly...

They seem to have fixed this. Noticed a number of buses today with the rear sign fitting the entire P/R message on two lines similar to the "Not In Service" rear sign.

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