Miscellaneous TTC Discussion & Questions

[T3G]

Does anyone know whether the heating (and in the case of 4041, the A/C) on CLRVs is 600 V like on the PCCs, or does it operate on 24/32 V?

[Bus_Medic]

2 hours ago, PCC Guy said:

Does anyone know whether the heating (and in the case of 4041, the A/C) on CLRVs is 600 V like on the PCCs, or does it operate on 24/32 V?

I'm certain for safety's sake, it's reduced down to at least 24vdc.... Plus, what vehicle heating company makes something that works at 600vdc?

all I've seen work on 12 or 24 vdc.

 

on the PCCs, was it just the resistors supplying the heat that were 600v? Or were the blowers too?

If they were, I'm sure it's all contained under the floor, with only ductwork into the body.

hybrid buses utilize 600v for the tub heater grids, but 24v for the blower fans upon them. Where ever practical, use the lowest voltage.

[raptorjays]

http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Subway_closures/Line1_blooryonge_osgoode_sep24to25.jsp

It is gonna be absolutely disastrous in the downtown this weekend.. I haven't seen the TTC closing that much section of the subway line within the downtown core.

There is a Jays game this weekend... which may make it even more disastrous especially around Union Station.

I work at the restaurant close to St. Andrew, and we may lose some customers because of the closure as well... 

I was surprised that any subway closures can impact many businesses around the subway stations.

[TheAverageJoe]

10 minutes ago, raptorjays said:

http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Subway_closures/Line1_blooryonge_osgoode_sep24to25.jsp

It is gonna be absolutely disastrous in the downtown this weekend.. I haven't seen the TTC closing that much section of the subway line within the downtown core.

There is a Jays game this weekend... which may make it even more disastrous especially around Union Station.

I work at the restaurant close to St. Andrew, and we may lose some customers because of the closure as well... 

I was surprised that any subway closures can impact many businesses around the subway stations.

Get over it work needs to be done and to be real any weekend downtown is bad to have it closed. Just have to suck it up.

[T3G]

23 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

I'm certain for safety's sake, it's reduced down to at least 24vdc.... Plus, what vehicle heating company makes something that works at 600vdc?

all I've seen work on 12 or 24 vdc.

Makes sense, thanks.

23 hours ago, Bus_Medic said:

on the PCCs, was it just the resistors supplying the heat that were 600v? Or were the blowers too?

I actually have no idea. Unless I overlooked something while reading "PCC: The Car That Fought Back", I don't believe that they specified how exactly it was set up. It just referred to the heating, along with the lights and a couple of other functions, as "600-volt auxiliaries".

[ttc rider]

4 hours ago, raptorjays said:

http://www.ttc.ca/Service_Advisories/Subway_closures/Line1_blooryonge_osgoode_sep24to25.jsp

It pis gonna be absolutely disastrous in the downtown this weekend.. I haven't seen the TTC closing that much section of the subway line within the downtown core.

There were a few weekend closures last year when the entire "U" portion (from St. George to Union to Bloor) was shut down.

Everyone survived the experience.

[Xtrazsteve]

TTC finally realized that the 52F looping on Royal York and Dixon isn't serving much people and that it would be a lot better to have the 52F serving both ways between Royal York and Scarlett. They should have been done from day 1. This will help all those people (especially workers) at the retirement homes at Westona stop have a much shorter wait. This will restore service eastbound from Royal York back to what it used to be when the 52/58 existed. The looping has been frequently used as a short turn location when the old 52 existed. 52G often short turn here in the evening before an extra bus was added to the 52G branch.

http://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2016/September_28/Reports/12_52F_Lawrence_West_Routing_Change_to_Braecrest_Avenue.pdf 

Also proposed for looping change is the 66B in the Humber Bay area. It's about time that they stop looping through the Park Lawn loop. Although the loop will probably be retained for the Waterfront West LRT if it ever need it. The looping is actually quite confusing to non-locals.

http://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2016/September_28/Reports/13_66B_Prince_Edward_Routing_Change_on_Marine_Parade_Drive.pdf

[H4 5600]

Anyone know if queensway has any runs on the shuttle today? Thanks!

[raptorjays]

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 4:38 PM, TheAverageJoe said:

Get over it work needs to be done and to be real any weekend downtown is bad to have it closed. Just have to suck it up.

The TTC definitely chose a wrong weekend to close the subway..

Jays game, World Cup of Hockey, TFC game, and University fair at the Convention Centre

There's no closure next weekend, where there are nothing going on in the city..

They should have chosen next weekend..

[H4 5600]

2 hours ago, raptorjays said:

The TTC definitely chose a wrong weekend to close the subway..

Jays game, World Cup of Hockey, TFC game, and University fair at the Convention Centre

There's no closure next weekend, where there are nothing going on in the city..

They should have chosen next weekend..

It was pretty bad, I had to go downtown a bunch of times so tried out a variety of routes, the 510 took forever because of how slow the doors are, the 6 had extreme overcrowding and delay issues, and the 75 was also more crowded and slower than usual. The shuttles were a mess downtown, they weren't going to union and I didn't see any people or obvious signs the street outside union directing people to where the shuttles were. There was also a ton of confused people by bay and front, which lead to the 6 overcrowding and getting delayed. And this wasn't even around the Jay's game, the times I went down. 

Most trains were also leaving bloor - yonge crushloaded around 12:00 pm, which is another fail. They obviously needed a few more trains on that stretch. 

 

[BusFanForever]

2 hours ago, raptorjays said:

The TTC definitely chose a wrong weekend to close the subway..

Jays game, World Cup of Hockey, TFC game, and University fair at the Convention Centre

There's no closure next weekend, where there are nothing going on in the city..

They should have chosen next weekend..

Nuit Blanche is next weekend. They are expecting a million people to attend and as in past years all night service will be provided for line 1 and 2 on Saturday.

[409 Thornton]

I have a question regarding destination signs.

If I wanted to have a custom message to be displayed on TTC bus destination signs, how would I go about doing that? I'm looking to have the message read "Happy Birthday," followed by the person's name. When I first thought of the idea, I was just thinking of having it displayed on a specific route, the one that this person rides daily, then I started thinking about the entire bus fleet, but that may cost me. So ideally, I'm just looking for a specific route, for one day. I want to do something special and unique. 

Has anyone done something similar?

 

[eja2k]

11 hours ago, 409 Thornton said:

I have a question regarding destination signs.

If I wanted to have a custom message to be displayed on TTC bus destination signs, how would I go about doing that? I'm looking to have the message read "Happy Birthday," followed by the person's name. When I first thought of the idea, I was just thinking of having it displayed on a specific route, the one that this person rides daily, then I started thinking about the entire bus fleet, but that may cost me. So ideally, I'm just looking for a specific route, for one day. I want to do something special and unique. 

Has anyone done something similar?

 

Keep thinking... but it ain't gonna happen... they don't even do "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" or "GO Jays GO!" anymore... something to do about accessibility concerns for the visually impaired if I recall correctly... 

[409 Thornton]

36 minutes ago, eja2k said:

Keep thinking... but it ain't gonna happen... they don't even do "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" or "GO Jays GO!" anymore... something to do about accessibility concerns for the visually impaired if I recall correctly... 

Not even if I pay? 

[noahrp24]

4 minutes ago, 409 Thornton said:

Not even if I pay? 

If you charter the bus, then they can program whatever you want for it. The general public doesn't need to see birthday messages to individuals. Just saying... Its not a famous person. Mississauga used to do it for Hazel McCallion, the mayor. But she was special.. They don' do it anymore for the current mayor.

[leylandvictory2]

1 hour ago, eja2k said:

Keep thinking... but it ain't gonna happen... they don't even do "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" or "GO Jays GO!" anymore... something to do about accessibility concerns for the visually impaired if I recall correctly... 

More like people get offended with holiday message.  One tI me a driver put up happy pride day message, he received a complaint almost immediately.  He was told to remove it.

[dayone]

How long does it take for a driver to change the destination sign to a special message? Is it under a minute?

[ttcbusdude]

38 minutes ago, dayone said:

How long does it take for a driver to change the destination sign to a special message? Is it under a minute?

correct, depending on how long the keypad will respond to the destination sign.

Usually in 10 sec it will change to the message it displays.

[noahrp24]

6 hours ago, dayone said:

How long does it take for a driver to change the destination sign to a special message? Is it under a minute?

Its just a PR code that they punch in. Special messages are pre-programmed and uploaded to the destination sign's memory board. Just press the correct code for the correct message and its up in seconds.

[dayone]

21 hours ago, noahrp24 said:

Its just a PR code that they punch in. Special messages are pre-programmed and uploaded to the destination sign's memory board. Just press the correct code for the correct message and its up in seconds.

But what about a message that has no code and is not pre-programmed like a person's name? Would it be quick to input and show up on the sign?

[noahrp24]

18 minutes ago, dayone said:

But what about a message that has no code and is not pre-programmed like a person's name? Would it be quick to input and show up on the sign?

Each message must have a code. A person's name would have to be programmed through the software on a computer before being uploaded to the sign. 

[smallspy]

13 hours ago, dayone said:

But what about a message that has no code and is not pre-programmed like a person's name? Would it be quick to input and show up on the sign?

The systems are not designed to do that. All they can do is reference a message/display that is saved in the unit's memory.

 

Custom or differing signage requires that the memory of the unit of that particular bus gets updated by an separate piece of equipment.

 

Dan

[OCSTOFan]

Hey Guys

You messed up the TTC section on CPTDB wiki 

You deleted all the Orion VII OG's on the roster

Also I think the last 2 ELFs are retired.

[TheAverageJoe]

On 9/24/2016 at 8:27 PM, raptorjays said:

The TTC definitely chose a wrong weekend to close the subway..

Jays game, World Cup of Hockey, TFC game, and University fair at the Convention Centre

There's no closure next weekend, where there are nothing going on in the city..

They should have chosen next weekend..

They would have picked that weekend like a year ago hard to know there would be a Jays game, a TFC game and a university fair at the convention Centre.

[jordankcw]

Does anyone know if the TTC changed the PM peak westbound routing of the 53E? Seen a fair bit of them going south on Yonge the past week during PM rush.