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smallspy

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15 hours ago, Orion VI said:

They change plates when they get rebuilt, and sometimes, just randomly. Probably an insurance thing. Although, don't quote me on that. @7575 @leylandvictory2: Do you guys know?

Hey, here's an idea - if you don't know, don't answer. It's not a race. No one really cares how many posts you have.

 

It has nothing to do with insurance. Plates are registered to the owner for use on a particular vehicle. (Although they can be transferred from vehicle-to-vehicle for a nominal fee.) The only reason to replace it is if the plate itself becomes damaged and unreadable as there is usually a cost associated with that.

 

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Bus_Medic

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Just because they’re readable doesn’t mean they’re not damaged. Once the running inspections crew flags a faded plate, a replacement is ordered. The ttc tries to wait until more than a handful are required, and replace them en masse. In the meantime, a special black lacquer permanent marker makes them legible again. This is likely why it appears that they’re replacing “good” plates.

It’s typically not recommended practice to touch up plates, but the MTO granted a waiver to us of sorts because of the lead time, sheer numbers and logistics involved.

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22 minutes ago, Orion VI said:

And neither do I. Just trying to help.

No, you're not. You provided incorrect information based on your guesses, which is probably less helpful than no answer at all. And you knew it was most likely incorrect too, because you said "don't quote me on it". So do everyone a favour, and stop making assumptions.

Everything posted on the Internet stays out there. So by putting out false information, you help create, spread, and sustain rumours and false facts. Someone else may take what is said without the full context, and repeat it next time there's a question like this. And the rumour keeps going on.

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Enough of the he said, she said nonsense that always comes up on this forum. Serious question here:

Does anyone know why this 30km/h speed limit protocol is still ongoing on the open cut sections of the Bloor-Danforth line? It was eliminated briefly earlier in the month with trains resuming normal high speed, and then all of a sudden they re-instituted it.

It's really getting ridiculous, it's been more than 2 months with this nonsense. Trip times have been getting longer as a result of all this (ie: normal 3 min commutes from Victoria Park to Warden can take upwards of 7mins).

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MK78

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2 hours ago, lip said:

Enough of the he said, she said nonsense that always comes up on this forum. Serious question here:

Does anyone know why this 30km/h speed limit protocol is still ongoing on the open cut sections of the Bloor-Danforth line? It was eliminated briefly earlier in the month with trains resuming normal high speed, and then all of a sudden they re-instituted it.

It's really getting ridiculous, it's been more than 2 months with this nonsense. Trip times have been getting longer as a result of all this (ie: normal 3 min commutes from Victoria Park to Warden can take upwards of 7mins).

Yeah, I did notice for a little bit it was back to normal, but didn't last. And it's not like it's one section of bad track. The trains automatically slow down when they leave the tunnels, before arriving at Vic Park Eastbound, or Warden Westbound. It's probably programmed into Speed Control. I've had the odd train where it's faster, but I assume the train might have Speed Control on bypass from getting too many EB's.

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On 1/9/2019 at 4:47 PM, Shemar said:

Or Wilson could send their NG hybrids to Arrow and then Arrow sends some of their 31xx to Birchmount. Then the 86xx at Eglinton would replace the NG hybrids at Wilson and Birchmount sends the 89xx and 92xx back to Eglinton. When 3570-3654 are delivered (maybe to Mt. Dennis), I have a feeling that they will replace the 79xx, possibly. Then the remaining NG hybrids at Mt Dennis would go to Arrow, then more of Arrow's novas 31xx and 32xx to Birchmount, and then most of Birchmount's 2016 novas (85xx and 86xx) go to Queensway. This way Birchmount remains a Nova only garage like Eglinton, and the NG hybrids are no longer at Wilson. The bus fleet allocation would look something like this by the end of the year (2019) if this were to happen:

Arrow (Total: 307)

1200-1423 (161)

1200-1223, 1226-1231, 1233-1237, 1241-1243, 1246-1254, 1257-1273, 1275-1283, 1285-1290, 1293, 1296-1297, 1301-1302, 1304-1305, 1307, 1309, 1314-1315, 1317, 1319, 1321, 1325, 1328-1329, 1334, 1340, 1342, 1344-1365, 1367-1376, 1378-1384, 1387-1390, 1395, 1399, 1406-1413, 1415-1423

1500-1689 (25)

1502-1503, 1516, 1521, 1529, 1532, 1536, 1549, 1553, 1555, 1560, 1562, 1575-1576, 1586, 1590, 1595, 1603, 1605-1606, 1614, 1618, 1625-1626, 1633

3100-3369 (80)

3290-3369

9000-9152 (31)

9105-9135

NFI XE40 Electric Buses (10)

Birchmount (Total: 299)

3100-3369 (190)

3100-3289

8400-8504 (95)

8400-8405, 8407-8427, 8437-8504

8510-8617 (14)

8510-8523

New Eglinton (Total: 312)

8620-8716 (17)

8700-8716

8720-8964 (245)

8720-8964

9200-9239 (40)

9200-9239

BYD Electric Buses (10)

Malvern (Total: 297)

1200-1423 (59)

1224-1225, 1232, 1238-1240, 1244-1245, 1255, 1274, 1284, 1291-1292, 1294, 1298-1299, 1303, 1306, 1308, 1310-1313, 1316, 1318, 1320, 1322-1324, 1326-1327, 1330-1333, 1335-1339, 1341, 1343, 1366, 1377, 1385-1386, 1391-1394, 1396-1398, 1400-1404, 1414

1500-1689 (25)

1534, 1550, 1559, 1579, 1652-1658, 1660-1663, 1665-1667, 1674, 1676, 1679, 1683, 1685-1687

3400-3654 (170)

3400-3569

9000-9152 (43)

9057-9099

Mount Dennis (Total: 301)

1000-1149 (150)

1000-1149

3400-3654 (85)

3570-3654

9000-9152 (56)

9023-9056, 9100-9104, 9136-9152

Proterra Electric Buses (10)

Queensway (Total: 203)

8000-8099 (100)

8000-8099

8400-8504 (10)

8406, 8428-8436

8510-8617 (93)

8524-8572, 8574-8617

Wilson (Total: 320)

8100-8219 (120)

8100-8219

8300-8396 (97)

8300-8396

8620-8716 (80)

8620-8699

9000-9152 (23)

9000-9022

If this were to happen, they can't move all of the buses overnight. They would need to start now and increase the pace of movements as more units retire and more units are delivered.

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On 1/15/2019 at 7:30 PM, lip said:

Enough of the he said, she said nonsense that always comes up on this forum. Serious question here:

Does anyone know why this 30km/h speed limit protocol is still ongoing on the open cut sections of the Bloor-Danforth line? It was eliminated briefly earlier in the month with trains resuming normal high speed, and then all of a sudden they re-instituted it.

It's really getting ridiculous, it's been more than 2 months with this nonsense. Trip times have been getting longer as a result of all this (ie: normal 3 min commutes from Victoria Park to Warden can take upwards of 7mins).

It’s because of the noise trains make when entering stations from the outdoor sections. People in the surrounding area have been complaining recently so they decided to slow them. It seems like this is a temporary solution and will be fixed (hopefully) soon.

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13 minutes ago, 7969 said:

It’s because of the noise trains make when entering stations from the outdoor sections. People in the surrounding area have been complaining recently so they decided to slow them. It seems like this is a temporary solution and will be fixed (hopefully) soon.

Haha really? The subway has only been there for 30 years?

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8 hours ago, 7969 said:

It’s because of the noise trains make when entering stations from the outdoor sections. People in the surrounding area have been complaining recently so they decided to slow them. It seems like this is a temporary solution and will be fixed (hopefully) soon.

If it's the flat wheel problem you're referring to, most cars have had the issue rectified already (as the problem dates back to the fall). To continue with the speed restriction just for a few outstanding cars is complete BS. Wheel squeal is also not an appropriate reason to reduce speeds, as the problem will occur regardless if a train travels at 10km/h, 30km/h or 70 km/h.

I really dont know what management is thinking these days, but it's time they get their heads out of their a**.

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21 minutes ago, lip said:

If it's the flat wheel problem you're referring to, most cars have had the issue rectified already (as the problem dates back to the fall). To continue with the speed restriction just for a few outstanding cars is complete BS. Wheel squeal is also not an appropriate reason to reduce speeds, as the problem will occur regardless if a train travels at 10km/h, 30km/h or 70 km/h.

I really dont know what management is thinking these days, but it's time they get their heads out of their a**.

Maybe they should consider putting up sound barriers, like GO Transit is doing. After all, residents don't want to have to look out at unsightly subway tracks whenever they want to go out for fresh air.

Image result for metrolinx noise wall

Hint: there has been no shortage of media coverage - here, here, and here.

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22 minutes ago, Transit geek said:

Maybe they should consider putting up sound barriers, like GO Transit is doing. After all, residents don't want to have to look out at unsightly subway tracks whenever they want to go out for fresh air.

I have no opinion on installing sound barriers to offset the noise generated by trains as I don't live anywhere near a railway line, but the barriers are hardly a solution for making the neighbourhood look more attractive.

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3 minutes ago, 7575 said:

Just a quick question. Eglinton Garage has signs on a few doors that say "Diesel buses only". Would that restrict electric vehicles from entering the garage or was it meant for the CNG buses we once had.

How old were the signs? It must've been for the CNG buses.

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Just now, Kelvin3157 said:

How old were the signs? It must've been for the CNG buses.

Probably installed when the garage was built. I couldn't see how old they were as I saw it from the street. I can probably get a closer look next week.

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The CEO report had some interesting info in this month's report:

"The arrival of the last clean diesel bus on December 17, 2018 marked a major milestone in TTC’s transition to a zero-emissions bus fleet. Also by the end of December, we received all 55 hybrid electric buses expected in 2018. The hybrid electric buses are currently being tested and commissioned and are expected to enter service out of Arrow and Malvern garages by the end of January 2019."
http://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2019/January_24/Reports/1_CEO_Report_January_2019.pdf#page=14

So Arrow is keeping some hybrids?

 

A service availability section has been added

"Continue to monitor and control all aspects of maintenance that support continuous improvement initiatives. The purchase of 1810 Markham Road adjacent to Malvern Garage (+40 buses) and extending the outdoor parking at Arrow Road Garage (+47 buses) provided additional outdoor parking allocated for buses. These initiatives allowed the bus fleet to increase from 1921 buses in 2017 to 2,008 buses by the end of Q2 2018."

http://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Commission_meetings/2019/January_24/Reports/1_CEO_Report_January_2019.pdf#page=54

I assume Arrow has the capacity of 300 buses and is one of the biggest garage in terms of storage now.

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smallspy

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15 hours ago, Xtrazsteve said:

I assume Arrow has the capacity of 300 buses and is one of the biggest garage in terms of storage now.

For maintenance purposes, the capacity at Arrow is the same as the other "big" divisions - 275 buses. And frankly, all of the divisions save for perhaps Birchmount have been storing way more than their rated capacity for many, many years now anyways, so this isn't going to be that much of a major change.

 

What will be interesting is seeing what they do with that extra property going forward. The additional land at Malvern is tentatively earmarked for use by Wheel-trans when that reshuffle happens in a couple of years, as is some of the space at Queensway of all places. I wonder if they plan on doing the same with that extra space at Arrow.

 

Dan

 

 

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1 hour ago, smallspy said:

What will be interesting is seeing what they do with that extra property going forward. The additional land at Malvern is tentatively earmarked for use by Wheel-trans when that reshuffle happens in a couple of years, as is some of the space at Queensway of all places. I wonder if they plan on doing the same with that extra space at Arrow.

This reminds me of something....it looks like the TTC is making some use of the former factory lot on the west side of the Canpa sub and Wickman Ave. I wonder if they are planning to actually build something there, or at least use as an extension of Queensway garage.

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I don't think that Arrow is keeping any of the nova hybrids. They were delivered there for commissioning but it would make more sense to keep them at one division, which in this case would be Malvern so that the unreliable NG HEV's can be replaced with ease. Maybe the 115 buses on delivery will be delivered to Malvern or they can continue delivery to Arrow, and then shuffle over to Malvern once their PDIs are done.

If Arrow continues to take Wilson's NG hybrids then some of Arrow's clean diesels could go to Birchmount.

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