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On 12/18/2019 at 9:43 PM, FelixINX said:

I don't expect the bus shortage to be finished before summer 2020. Yes St. Denis reopening will help but there is 3 CT receiving buses while still in expansion.

I think by summer this year the situation became barely noticeable, and St-Denis was closed this summer. So I expect this situation to be resolved in April. The STM put a heavy blame on St-Denis closure but the biggest factors are organizational problems and tensions between the union and administration. Also remember we will receive 30 bus per month this year, so adding the 25 units scheduled in 2019, by April we should have received 145 extra brand-new buses.

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Got the confirmation from the STM that the added departure for 92, 121 and 165 will stay for January. Yay.

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I took the trouble to closely inspect the legendary 121 stop flags today and... they're all gone, even the one I described on O'Brien / Côte-Vertu... so I think they are possibly REM related. In the train today, some high school students got on at Canora/Mont-Royal and were discussing about the closure (being postponed), he said he initially heard that in January he would need to take a bus that takes you from Montpellier to TMR (I know I can't really quote high school students... but the schools could have negotiated with ARTM...) so maybe that's another theory of the 121 signs?

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Also noticed that the weekly schedules are out, but some departures are missing. I inspected the 165 south and some departures written in the planibus are not in the weekly schedule. I also definitely expect a new set of GTFS data as Felix pointed out.

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5 hours ago, Frozen Yogurt said:

I took the trouble to closely inspect the legendary 121 stop flags today and... they're all gone, even the one I described on O'Brien / Côte-Vertu... so I think they are possibly REM related.

They are hundreds of students going from Montpellier to Canora/Mont-Royal each day. These stop flags are for Pierre-Laporte students. I have made some research and here are all the details https://pierrelaporte.csmb.qc.ca/modification-du-transport-en-commun-2020/

5 hours ago, Frozen Yogurt said:

Also remember we will receive 30 bus per month this year, so adding the 25 units scheduled in 2019, by April we should have received 145 extra brand-new buses.

Adding units might help, but maintenance capacity will still be limited for some months? 

I guess we will have to wait and see!

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On 12/20/2019 at 10:21 PM, FelixINX said:

They are hundreds of students going from Montpellier to Canora/Mont-Royal each day. These stop flags are for Pierre-Laporte students. I have made some research and here are all the details https://pierrelaporte.csmb.qc.ca/modification-du-transport-en-commun-2020/

Adding units might help, but maintenance capacity will still be limited for some months? 

I guess we will have to wait and see!

Thanks for the link! It certainly makes sense now. I think ES Mont-Royal will have their own shuttle as well (the 92 École flag is under chemise the last time I checked), and I expect about 5 buses, since a good chunk of their students take the train.

For the second point: I agree, we'll see.

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There will be a new GTFS set, but if I understood correctly, it might be after January 6.

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Bonjour,

 

Veuillez noter que les derniers fichiers GTFS prévues pour la période du 6 janvier au 22 mars 2020 comportent des certaines données horaires qui seront modifiées lors de la livraison du service des bus le 6 janvier prochain. En raison de l’annulation des travaux dans le tunnel sous le mont Royal par le REM, la STM ajustera sont offre de service en conséquences.

 

Principaux impacts 

·         Lignes complétement annulées pour la période du 6 janvier au 22 mars 2020

o   919

o   964

·         Ligne avec ajustement de service pour cette même période

o   968

§  Le service est maintenu tel que pour la période présentement en cours, soit les :

·         vendredis en soirée

·         samedis et dimanches toute la journée

 

La STM procédera à un horaire amendé en janvier pour corriger cette situation et certains autres ajustements pertinents au besoin. Les nouveaux GTFS seront mis à la disposition des développeurs dès que les nouveaux horaires seront produits.

 

Merci de votre collaboration

From STM developers.

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A couple of news for the STM...

1) Elevator constructions at McGill station will start mid-February until 2022. A new exit will be built to accommodate the elevator, and the STM will also repair water proofing membranes at this occasion. See http://www.stm.info/fr/presse/nouvelles/2020/debut-d-importants-travaux-a-la-station-mcgill-qui-deviendra-universellement-accessible. Some ad racks at McGill station have received STM ads promoting this.

2) In case people didn't notice, a new set of GTFS has been released last week. Starting from next week, we will use a new set of trip ID's. Also, until now, there are some rush hour trips that disappeared from the weekly schedule (and correspondingly in the GTFS data), they have been added back into the weekly schedule starting from next week.

The  weekend trip ID's remain the same, except for Stinson.

3) Finally, the STM has issued a "message for its customers and employees", essentially an apology for the bus shortage mess http://www.stm.info/fr/presse/nouvelles/2020/un-message-de-la-stm-a-l-intention-de-ses-clients-et-employes.

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I found an interview video (in French) where Radio-Canada interviews chairman Philippe Schnobb. Discussion focused on answering questions from transit users which touch on subjects such as overcrowding on the bus and metro, expansion plans for the metro and OPUS card tariffs. Phillipe Schnobb references the ARTM a couple of times in the interview.

 

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Is there some kind of slow order for the metro between Champ-de-Mars and Berri-UQAM? Going north/eastbound, there is a recorded message warning everyone to hold on, and then the train will break abruptly before continuing slowly into the station. Does anyone know if this a temporary situation?

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1 hour ago, downbeat said:

Is there some kind of slow order for the metro between Champ-de-Mars and Berri-UQAM? Going north/eastbound, there is a recorded message warning everyone to hold on, and then the train will break abruptly before continuing slowly into the station. Does anyone know if this a temporary situation?

It is temporary, but it has been like this for at least a year, if not two. Trains have to slow down because of work going on at and around Berri-UQAM. If I remember correctly, there is the same kind of slow order at Vendome.

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53 minutes ago, FelixINX said:

Planibus for March are now out http://stm.info/en/info/networks/bus/planibus-schedules

Routes serving Cote-Vertu station have a notice regarding the summer closure : rerouted or transfer on shuttle buses.

Was about to post it here...

Definitely not impressed (I'm frustrated), from a regular STM user point of view. They cut a substantial amount of AM rush trips on REGULAR routes, a couple from here and there... despite their promise to NOT cut anything from the regular system last December. The STM's administration thinks we have forgotten about their promise. I will bring this up in the upcoming board meeting.

As an example, the 129-S now has 4 less trips going southbound in the AM, compared to both this January and last March. The 144-W now has 7 and 3 less trips compared to this January and last March. The 27-W is pretty badly hit, 7 less trips than last March. So far, I checked for a single direction, on 7 routes, all in AM rush (from 7 to 9), and already 20 less departures total are offered this March vs last March. This would probably save 10-15 bus requirements for the STM.

So much for the folks saying we have to break eggs to make the REM omelette. Not the regular STM eggs having nothing to do with REM, please. I was fearing this was going to happen, and here it is. The worst thing is that the cuts are so subtle they can just argue that it's part of the regular schedule reviewing process.

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419 is also extremely disappointing...

There are three less trips going west between 7:00 and 8:00, and the shortest time between two departures is 8 minutes compared to 4 or 5 in the past. Also, frequency between 10:09 and 12:09 is completely ridiculous at 31-33 minutes, compared to 20-22 minutes now. 

I'm glad to be done relying on the 419 this May.

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REM shuttles should have been given to a sub-contractor.

However, the 919 and 968 are still scheduled on Galland coaches, and the 964 needs at is peak 16 buses. But there is also 60 new buses. Why do they have to remove so much departures?

What is the current situation of bus shortage?

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17 hours ago, West Island Transit Fan said:

419 is also extremely disappointing...

Decided to compare the 419 M19 and M20 side by side… let’s just say it’s ridiculous… Another thing to note is that sometimes it doesn't look like the service is reduced by a lot, but the STM shifted lots of departures so that the peak has less buses but earlier/later of the peak has a bit more departures, pretty sure that's also an attempt to bring down the total number of buses required. 

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I suggest anyone impacted by this to write to the STM tomorrow from 12pm to 3pm (or showing up in person), during their conseil d'administration. We need to get the message across, us STM users do indeed have something called a brain, and the STM blatantly disregarded their promise. If they didn't say in plain French "we won't déshabiller the regular system" I wouldn't make such an idiot out of myself (maybe I'm an idiot, so what), but when it's been pronounced, they can't take it back.

10 hours ago, FelixINX said:

REM shuttles should have been given to a sub-contractor.

To be honest, my opinion says those who do the constructions and amass the money later should be the one responsible for the shuttle work... why in the hell the STM has to do the dirty job for them?

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However, the 919 and 968 are still scheduled on Galland coaches, and the 964 needs at is peak 16 buses. But there is also 60 new buses. Why do they have to remove so much departures?

The 919 will need 4 buses.

The 968, I have no idea. But given how it requires 5 buses for 15 min headway midday, and it comes at 5 min frequency at 7am, I'd say it requires a good 20 buses during the AM rush. Couple that with the 16 buses of the 964, and adding all the added departures on the 92, 121, 165, and 470 and let's just say it requires 15 further buses. That gives 50-60 extra buses needed. The STM claimed last year that they needed 1425 buses, and for March, 1473 buses, = 48 more buses needed. The deficit has to come from somewhere else...

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In a note on their site, STM has withdrawn its Planibus for the current season, owing to “the current context”. 

http://www.stm.info/fr/infos/reseaux/bus/planibus?utm_campaign=carrousel&utm_source=planibus&utm_medium=carrouse

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Étant donné le contexte actuel, les planibus ont été retirés de la circulation. Pour connaître l’horaire d’une ligne de bus, consultez l’outil d’information à la clientèle qui vous convient le mieux.

 

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Due to new instructions of the government, all REM construction sites will be closed. The Mount-Royal tunnel will stay open for now.

It wasn't announced before, but the 919, 964 and 968 will not run this week. I doubt they will run next week.

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A few remarks about the COVID-19 schedules:

  • Virtually no extras. Only the 465 and 480 have Legendre extras and Stinson operates one lone departure on the 24-W Sundays at 24:55.
  • 777 Casino only operates during "peak hours" every day (~5:30-9:00 and 14:30-18:00), including weekends and holidays. 
  • 419 will run on weekends and holidays with service to Terminus MacDonald from 9:00-17:00, identical to last summer's schedule. I guess they must have hastily copied last summer's schedule since weekend service now makes no sense. 

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Has there been any updates on the new 40-9xx buses that the STM ordered? I haven’t heard or seen it online in months 

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On 4/14/2020 at 8:13 PM, Frozen Yogurt said:

The STM surely profited this (unfortunate) COVID-19 occasion to update some much needed routing and stop placements  on their website.. For example, the 180 near Laurentien/Lachapelle was on detour for quite a long time, they finally updated the routing to reflect the change to one-way streets. Imo the terminus is better if it's placed in front of the supermarket (as it unofficially is now) rather than in front of a car dealership, but I never take that route and can't say much.

An interesting one is the relocation of stops of the 78-211-405-411-425-485 at Lionel-Groulx... does anyone know what's going on there? Constructions? I wonder what's the reason that the STM doesn't use the dedicated bus bays on Greene anymore.

 

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I checked with a friend at LaSalle and to his knowledge, there are no detours in effect and buses should be using the bus bays on Greene. He is not assigned to anything at Lionel Groulx, but said he would look into it for me and get back to me.

It could simply be a visual bus as the official stop name in St-Jacques/Greene. Do the buses actually load up along St-Jacques and not in the bays?

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6 STM buses will be used as mobile COVID-19 testing clinics in the coming days. They will be serving the most affected neighborhoods on the island from 9:00 - 18:00 on weekdays. STM drivers will be the ones transporting the buses to and from the CT (garage), with the buses being fully disinfected before returning to the CT. 

http://www.stm.info/fr/presse/nouvelles/2020/la-stm-prete-des-bus-a-la-sante-publique-pour-la-mise-en-place-de-cliniques-mobiles

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-to-use-city-buses-as-mobile-covid-19-testing-units-in-hardest-hit-boroughs-1.4924144

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